Vote for your favorite Southperry banner!!!

I just had you on ultra ignore when you posted that

My divine radiance shines through even the fog of ultra ignore so try again.

First you say give constructive criticism. Then when i give some, you say don't be rude. The authors have a right to know what people think of these works, and it's the duty of those who vote to tell them their opinions. That's how this works, and being "for fun" certainly doesn't detract from or void that obligation. They took the time and effort to submit it, so i took the time and effort to critique them based on my opinions. Please don't use their effort to point out a lack of participation on my part, as if to put me down. I also don't see why it matters to keep saying that a banner change might not happen despite being clearly defined in several places, as well as being partially common sense. The topic exists because it suggests that it may happen, so why degrade the quality of your posts with the knowledge that whatever you're saying might not change to begin with?

PS: OH NO AUTHOR NAMES NEXT TO THE BANNERS. An angry internet mob might form and lynch the author of a banner that no one liked!

Stop being a plantain, Sylv. Talia has good intentions and she's right for doing so. Even if most of the community is tight and can take a hit from each other, we don't know who submitted what and we don't want to discourage people from trying when other similar events happen. It's fine to say THE LINES ARE A LITTLE TOO THICK and I don't think Talia would disagree, but just saying "7 looks terrible" isn't appropriate, even if you follow it up with your reasoning. Just leave the negativity out of it. Not super difficult.

Also she wasn't even targeting you completely. Some people have been pretty brutal about a couple of them. It's really unnecessary.

First you say give constructive criticism. Then when i give some, you say don't be rude.

8 is just stupid. Who the hell are those people and why should they be on the banner? MS characters doing random s'hit doesn't make a very nice looking banner.

I'm pretty sure saying something is "just stupid" is not being constructive. Someone took the time and effort to participate. Do not degrade their work by saying such things. Saying something else like, "This banner might be better if the characters were some of the members of Southperry" would be a more appropriate response. It has also NEVER been defined that the winning banner would take place of the current one. I clearly stated otherwise.

BEAT YOU TALIA. By mere milliseconds. Muahaha.

BEAT YOU TALIA. By mere milliseconds. Muahaha.

I need to adjust the sorting tie breaker so being a mod always makes you first...

It has also NEVER been defined that the winning banner would take place of the current one. I clearly stated otherwise.

And Just Because I'm Mean I'll point out right now that nothing that's made it through so far has even remotely moved me towards considering it for replacing the existing so it's a definite Not Happening but maybe next time.

The point of these isn't to shove up whatever the majority can tolerate as 'the least of the worst' just for the sake of having something different; it's to look for something that might outshine what we have now and to reward people for having the courage and imagination to try.

 tldr

You don't slap a crown on the pig and call it the king because it's the only thing that showed up to the coronation, you keep looking and give the pig a turnip for the consideration.

BEAT YOU TALIA. By mere milliseconds. Muahaha.

LOL, thank you Sarah! Glad someone could see my point there.

I'm pretty sure saying something is "just stupid" is not being constructive. Someone took the time and effort to participate. Do not degrade their work by saying such things. Saying something else like, "This banner might be better if the characters were some of the members of Southperry" would be a more appropriate response. It has also NEVER been defined that the winning banner would take place of the current one. I clearly stated otherwise.

Expressing extreme distaste in a style is constructive. No feedback is bad feedback. My post overall was still constructive, natural attitude of mine aside. I'm pretty sure if i said "This banner would be better if there weren't random ass people doing random stuff", it wouldn't be any less constructive. You could still take it as being rude because i'm essentially saying the entire point that makes the banner unique is useless, and i could still say it's constructive because no maple characters makes the banner better to look at.

It has also NEVER been said that i acknowledge that the winning banner would absolutely 100% take the place of the current one. I clearly stated that YOU have said otherwise. My point was that bringing that point into the discussion dilutes the motivation of those who do want the banner changed and who take this topic seriously, thus should not be CONSTANTLY POINTED OUT.

Talia has good intentions and she's right for doing so.

I don't disagree with you. You think i don't have some kind of respect for following through with a user request and as event coordinator actually working to change something that, imo, should be changed more than 4 times a year?

Even if most of the community is tight and can take a hit from each other, we don't know who submitted what and we don't want to discourage people from trying when other similar events happen.

Don't understand why negativity drives people away from art contests. It's still anonymous (and it doesn't look like that will change), and they most likely still have better art skills than those criticizing.

It's fine to say THE LINES ARE A LITTLE TOO THICK and I don't think Talia would disagree, but just saying "7 looks terrible" isn't appropriate, even if you follow it up with your reasoning. Just leave the negativity out of it. Not super difficult.

Putting down pieces of work in a line up is kind of necessary to pick a winner. People still respect the authors for doing work, but a winner has to be chosen.

If you agree, but don't think the reasoning should be posted or whatever, then people voting will be blinded. When i came into this thread i couldn't put my thumb on what i thought was wrong with #7, but after reading the comments i found out it was because of the lines. If people hadn't posted that criticism i would have had a much harder time figuring out what would look best on the site.

targeting you completely.

Doesn't matter much. Whether it was focused on me or not, i was still included.

Expressing extreme distaste in a style is constructive.

No, it's being opinionated.
Being constructive is providing ways they can improve, not just stating it's something you outright despise regardless.
No one can do anything about your tastes - They're not an actionable complaint. The lines being too thick, the colors being too dark, all the submissions that didn't think to use transparency and wouldn't work on any background except one that matched them - Those are actionable constructive complaints they can take and come back to next go around as ways to improve.

I need to adjust the sorting tie breaker so being a mod always makes you first...



And Just Because I'm Mean I'll point out right now that nothing that's made it through so far has even remotely moved me towards considering it for replacing the existing so it's a definite Not Happening but maybe next time.

The point of these isn't to shove up whatever the majority can tolerate as 'the least of the worst' just for the sake of having something different; it's to look for something that might outshine what we have now and to reward people for having the courage and imagination to try.

 tldr

You don't slap a crown on the pig and call it the king because it's the only thing that showed up to the coronation, you keep looking and give the pig a turnip for the consideration.

If this is the case can we get a reset again...? I still think #7 is the best and if it's a DEFINITE no to any of these being used, I want to vote for it. 6 is still nice but I voted for it because it's what I thought would make the best banner, not because it was the best piece of art.

If this is the case can we get a reset again...? I still think #7 is the best and if it's a DEFINITE no to any of these being used, I want to vote for it. 6 is still nice but I voted for it because it's what I thought would make the best banner, not because it was the best piece of art.

No, because you've voted for what it should be voted on based on.

Just because it's not going to replace the current doesn't mean that's not the criteria it should be judged on.

#6 is purty neat.

Lol'd @ #8 having 2 votes though.

#1 was most enjoyable to me. I don't think SouthPerry should be srsbsns anyways, and with the way Fiel did things in terms on censoring, I felt that #1 fits that theme rather well. Though it wasn't as great as many others, I still thought that it fits SouthPerry as a whole. Not going to comment on the rest of them because:

a) I don't feel like it
b) Lazy ; see above
c) No point

None of them pull it off like the original does, honest. You should put up another poll with two options; "Keep current banner" or "Use the top voted banner", because I really feel like most people would choose the current over pretty much all of these. They're really not that great, no offense to the artists, and do not top the quality and simplicity of the current banner.

You should put up another poll with two options

Would be rather pointless when I've already pointed out repeatedly that none of these will be doing so.

Would be rather pointless when I've already pointed out repeatedly that none of these will be doing so.

^That!!

Would be rather pointless when I've already pointed out repeatedly that none of these will be doing so.

thats nice

disregarding that I just wanted to get my point around that all of these are inferior to the current banner, which is an adequate comparison regardless of whether or not these submissions will replace it

disregarding that I just wanted to get my point around that all of these are inferior to the current banner, which is an adequate comparison regardless of whether or not these submissions will replace it

Then state your actual point/opinion rather than unrelated actionable items as a means of hyperbole.

None of them pull it off like the original does, honest. You should put up another poll with two options; "Keep current banner" or "Use the top voted banner", because I really feel like most people would choose the current over pretty much all of these. They're really not that great, no offense to the artists, and do not top the quality and simplicity of the current banner.

Maybe after we pick a winner, if the staff likes the winning banner over the current, they could do that. You're thinking a bit ahead, no?

Then state your actual point/opinion rather than unrelated actionable items as a means of hyperbole.

I had said that these submissions do not top the quality and simplicity of the current banner. More than half of the submissions obviously strive for simplicity but are honestly nothing more than a custom font slapped onto a transparent background. The only submission that does not fit this description is #7, and while it's a pretty good looking banner, it just wouldn't look good in place of the current banner assuming it would be used in that same size and would be put in the same place.

you are a hyperbole

The point of voting here is not to replace the current banner. Eos & Talia will choose if the winner will replace it or not. For the moment, it's simply choosing the best banner out of the ones provided, not necessarily the one that will 100% for sure replace the one we have. According to the rules:

 No guarantee of a winner being selected. (In other words, the current logo may or may not be changed even after the contest.)
 We reserve the right to change the logo back at any time, or to use any number of the submissions at any time regardless of whether they were the grand prize winner.

Just felt like it was necessary to quote this again.