Hawaiian Mafia: Mafia and Survivor Win

I can't be proud of a successful block?

In a more "pro" game, that's an unwritten rule that you can't boast of a successful block. The fact that you don't seem to worry for a few games now seems to suggest that there's nothing to it though.

'Oia makemake kaumaha! Kaumaha!

"This makes me sad?"

[color="#cc8899"]Maybe by taunting the mafia over my block I'm trying to encourage them to target me? After all, then I could protect myself and make them waste another night. Or maybe I'm WIFOM'ing the mafia with that decision, and instead hoping they WON'T target me if they think I'm going to be protected. Or maybe I'm not the doctor and asking the doctor to protect me tonight, to make it LOOK like I am, but I'm really a vanilla townie, and trying to make the mafia waste time killing me instead of the real doc?

Who knows? Either way, it's fun to taunt the mafia, because they can't react until night.[/COLOR]

In a more "pro" game, that's an unwritten rule that you can't boast of a successful block. The fact that you don't seem to worry for a few games now seems to suggest that there's nothing to it though.



"This makes me sad?"

'A'ohe. [Ho'a'o] [hana hou].

Maybe by taunting the mafia over my block I'm trying to encourage them to target me? After all, then I could protect myself and make them waste another night. Or maybe I'm WIFOM'ing the mafia with that decision, and instead hoping they WON'T target me if they think I'm going to be protected. Or maybe I'm not the doctor and asking the doctor to protect me tonight, to make it LOOK like I am, but I'm really a vanilla townie, and trying to make the mafia waste time killing me instead of the real doc?

Who knows? Either way, it's fun to taunt the mafia, because they can't react until night.

That's also pretty confusing. You could also be mafia saying "haha guys I actually didn't kill and am claiming doc to throw you townies off guard." which itself is another layer to the WIFOM that frankly serves no purpose than to confuse the town.
Vote: Maspan

This so-called "rules" are so lame. It's like you have a script to follow to be considered town or else... It's even more bizarre because having a script makes it much easier for a mafia to pretend to be a townie.
It also makes the games so much mechanical and predictable, what's with being random and creative?
Anyway, sad that Swerve was a townie. He sure was annoying though.

That's also pretty confusing. You could also be mafia saying "haha guys I actually didn't kill and am claiming doc to throw you townies off guard." which itself is another layer to the WIFOM that frankly serves no purpose than to confuse the town.
Vote: Maspan

[color="#cc8899"]My purpose is to confuse the mafia, not the town. What does it matter if I'm really the doctor or not to the town? Regardless, the doctor is still alive and able to protect people. That's the important thing. Also, say I'm not the real doctor - would it be a good idea for the real one to counterclaim me? I think not, as that would give the mafia a clear target instead of this WIFOM. I hope you'll reconsider your vote, though I understand it.

All I'm asking for is a little bit of trust.

Strictly to tie up the vote
[][Vote]No Lynch[/B][/COLOR]

Well I was gone for most of the day, but I'm glad to see I didn't die, and no other townies did either. Seems like every time I travel I end up dead and I have to travel again tomorrow. *Knocks on wood and crosses fingers* Anyway, I'll wait a bit to vote, since chances are good that I'll only be able to vote once before I head off to bed and by the time I get access to the internet tomorrow, it'll already be Night 2.

[COLOR="green"]1 - MasPan
1 - No Lynch[/COLOR]

[color="#cc8899"]Come on guys, we can't be wasting the days like this. We NEED the discussion in a vanilla-heavy game. Letting a day slip by with minimal activity is inviting the mafia to pick us off at night with no pressure to control lynches in the day. My WIFOM is useless if it doesn't at least promote discussion here.

On that note, I'm going to try to pressure some of the less active players. For now,
[][Vote]Mira[/B]

I'll remove the vote if Mira posts and then move on to the next quiet player. I chose Mira first because she'll typically respond when directly mentioned in mafia, whereas others like Synthesist generally remain quiet regardless.

Edit-Thanks Mira

[][vote]No lynch[/B][/COLOR]

Lurkers get no love?

'A'ohe. [Ho'a'o] [hana hou].

Taoume, goles theeme toueame.

[color="#cc8899"][][vote]Corn[/B]
[][vote]No Lynch[/B]
You've been alarmingly quiet for a mafia game. Same as with Mira, vote removed if you respond.[/COLOR]

[color="#cc8899"]Come on guys, we can't be wasting the days like this. We NEED the discussion in a vanilla-heavy game. Letting a day slip by with minimal activity is inviting the mafia to pick us off at night with no pressure to control lynches in the day. My WIFOM is useless if it doesn't at least promote discussion here.

On that note, I'm going to try to pressure some of the less active players. For now,
[][Vote]Mira[/B]

I'll remove the vote if Mira posts and then move on to the next quiet player. I chose Mira first because she'll typically respond when directly mentioned in mafia, whereas others like Synthesist generally remain quiet regardless.

Edit-Thanks Mira

[][vote]No lynch[/B][/COLOR]

I'd love to help stir the pot some Mas, but unfortunately today and tomorrow just have worked out badly for me participating in much discussion. All that being said, I'm fairly sure one, or more than one, of the people that voted for Swerve was likely a mafian. There were too many votes on him, even if you factor in his usual abrasive posting nature. Unfortunately that doesn't exactly narrow things down much, but with only that to go on as a lead, I'll pick one of the people that voted for Swerve as my vote. Of Shidoshi, Holypie, KajitiSouls, MasPan, Mephisto, and Corn, I can't say I find anyone to be too suspicious, but between Corn's rather subdued reactions, and the fact that he voted almost immediately after Meph, I think there's a decent chance he's a mafian. So:

[vote] Corn

Edit: I realized the whole voting right after thing might not be considered a scum tell, but I just thought it happend rather quickly, as if he was waiting for someone else to vote for Swerve first before he added his vote to it. Sort of like hoping to start a quick bandwagon on him. Still not the best of tells or anything, but I wanted to clarify before I lost the chance to do so later on.

[vote] Corn

Logic seems sound to me.

I'd love to help stir the pot some Mas, but unfortunately today and tomorrow just have worked out badly for me participating in much discussion. All that being said, I'm fairly sure one, or more than one, of the people that voted for Swerve was likely a mafian. There were too many votes on him, even if you factor in his usual abrasive posting nature. Unfortunately that doesn't exactly narrow things down much, but with only that to go on as a lead, I'll pick one of the people that voted for Swerve as my vote. Of Shidoshi, Holypie, KajitiSouls, MasPan, Mephisto, and Corn, I can't say I find anyone to be too suspicious, but between Corn's rather subdued reactions, and the fact that he voted almost immediately after Meph, I think there's a decent chance he's a mafian. So:

[vote] Corn

Edit: I realized the whole voting right after thing might not be considered a scum tell, but I just thought it happend rather quickly, as if he was waiting for someone else to vote for Swerve first before he added his vote to it. Sort of like hoping to start a quick bandwagon on him. Still not the best of tells or anything, but I wanted to clarify before I lost the chance to do so later on.

[color="#cc8899"]From your list, Kajiti is one of my primary suspicions, though partially because of his reaction to my WIFOM. More of a general feeling than an actual reason-based suspicion, though, so I'm not going to be voting him just yet.

I also am not entirely trustworthy of Holypie jumping into the Corn lynch, though I welcome him to explain what about your rather flimsy argument matched with him.[/COLOR]

It's not my fault it's the weekend and I'm....playing.

I'm quite suspicious of Maspan. Wouldn't the log mention something about a successful block? Maybe he's Mafia and in order to get suspicion off of him, he didn't kill anyone this night. Maspan is that smar tto do so. Also, he immediately jumped onto my bandwagon when I've been quiet. Come on, even if I'm mafia I wouldn't stay quiet, unless I'm employing reverse reverse psychology or something.

It's not my fault it's the weekend and I'm....playing.

I'm quite suspicious of Maspan. Wouldn't the log mention something about a successful block? Maybe he's Mafia and in order to get suspicion off of him, he didn't kill anyone this night. Maspan is that smar tto do so. Also, he immediately jumped onto my bandwagon when I've been quiet. Come on, even if I'm mafia I wouldn't stay quiet, unless I'm employing reverse reverse psychology or something.

[color="#cc8899"]Your bandwagon? I was the first person to do so. I also did not do so immediately, I targeted Mira first. Relax, I said I'd take the vote off if you answered, and you did. On to the next quiet person.

And since when have doctor blocks ever shown up in flavor? That's completely ridiculous and would be unfair to mafia.[/COLOR]

[color="#cc8899"]Double posting for a necessary bump.
[][vote]z0mgc00k13[/B]

Same deal as with Mira and Corn. I'm targeting people that aren't being active.
K, Cookie is active now too.
[][Vote]Corn[/b]
[Vote]Holypie
Corn, your highly defensive post (especially considering you were wrong on a few points) has me on guard at the moment. I'm more intrigued at the votes of Holypie and Cookie, both bandwagoning, though. As of right now an additional vote on you by me isn't going to do much, so let's see if a case can be made here for someone else. Holypie participated in yesterday's lynch and jumped to your bandwagon without much of a reason why being listed.[/COLOR]

I still dont see a reason to vote for anyone, but i guess ill just bandwagon
[vote] Corn

Changed my vote.