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DualReaver Wrote:[COLOR="green"]You, I, and someone else, all know that BTA isn't Oxygen. Claiming detective after me and then proceeding to lie about another member of the town is more than enough to prove you're scum without my helping hand.

And Mephisto, there's no more super masonry. Pie informed me that he's adding the rule of being forced to say everything to your whole mason, at least for information after what happened today. Of course, I told him that that ruins the point of the masons in the first place, but I can understand as it makes the game overpowered.[/COLOR]

There is literally no way you could know this unless your informant detective actually detected BTA instead of Mas, and you've been lying through your teeth about him this whole time. I'm leaning toward taking Mas's side now...
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Mephisto Wrote:There is literally no way you could know this unless your informant detective actually detected BTA instead of Mas, and you've been lying through your teeth about him this whole time. I'm leaning toward taking Mas's side now...

I'm confirming BTA isn't Mafia.
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Corn Wrote:Wait a second, BTA isn't Oxygen though.

And you know this... how? He's not in a mason.
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Mephisto Wrote:There is literally no way you could know this unless your informant detective actually detected BTA instead of Mas, and you've been lying through your teeth about him this whole time. I'm leaning toward taking Mas's side now...

I can confirm the claim that BTA isn't oxygen. Inside mason information we recieved at the beginning.
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I was never saying that he was mafia. I was saying that it's impossible to know what BTA's element is, seeing as he's not in a mason group, unless he was the one who was detected last night.

OK wtp is going on with this mason shyt, seriously?
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KajitiSouls Wrote:And you know this... how? He's not in a mason.

Well, can't you guess why both DualReaver and I, in the same Mason group, know how?
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Mephisto Wrote:There is literally no way you could know this unless your informant detective actually detected BTA instead of Mas, and you've been lying through your teeth about him this whole time. I'm leaning toward taking Mas's side now...

And my mason comes to my aid. Brandon made an oversight, and as such, he has left himself wide open. We don't know who BTA is, but we know for sure who Oxygen is. I'm not going to say, and I'd advise the entire mason not to tell, because it's safer for him that way.
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Corn Wrote:Well, can't you guess why both DualReaver and I, in the same Mason group, know how?

Seeing as we all claimed to be in the non-metals group you'd expect us to know a bit of which element some members have.

Ok guys, off I go. Good lynchin'

Till tomorrow.
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Seems like the metals group needs to talk more during nights.
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BTW Dual, the change Pie is making actually does not defeat the purpose of mason groups. It simply makes them function the way that they're supposed to and prevents imbalances.
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I wish I was playing this Goggleemoticon
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Corn Wrote:Well, can't you guess why both DualReaver and I, in the same Mason group, know how?

I assume you're inferring that he cannot be a non-metal because he's not in your mason. According to the chart Dual posted on day 1, that means that Kajiti can't be Hydrogen either.

Your argument is invalid, my hair is a bird!
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There was nothing in the mason PM that mentioned Oxygen or BTA at all. Where the hell are you pulling this from? The only other option I could see is that there's a bus driver and I was hit last night, which might explain Dual's false detection as well.
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[COLOR="green"]Yes I agree, masons are in essence imbalanced when they're this big without that restriction, but now it means that talking in mason means always telling everything you know to a mafioso, so it's better to not reveal anything.

Either way, shall we take care of the one member of the non-metals that we know isn't a detective? I'm not going to tell you where it is Brandon, because I know you too well. You don't forget anything, and you've already told your whole mafia group who he is, but in the off chance you really did mess up, I won't let the information slip like I did with your role.[/COLOR]
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Mephisto Wrote:I assume you're inferring that he cannot be a non-metal because he's not in your mason. According to the chart Dual posted on day 1, that means that Kajiti can't be Hydrogen either.

Your argument is invalid, my hair is a bird!

Oxygen already roleclaimed obvs.
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DualReaver Wrote:Yes I agree, masons are in essence imbalanced when they're this big without that restriction, but now it means that talking in mason means always telling everything you know to a mafioso, so it's better to not reveal anything.

This is the inherent risk of revealing information at any point in a mafia game though. Mason groups shouldn't really be different or it breaks the game.
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Corn Wrote:Oxygen already roleclaimed obvs.

Oh.
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Mephisto Wrote:This is the inherent risk of revealing information at any point in a mafia game though. Mason groups shouldn't really be different or it breaks the game.

[COLOR="green"]I agree. I personally believe mason groups shouldn't get this big anyway. But that's besides the point.

Oxygen is a non-metal, so we already know who he is. That means BTA obviously can't be.

So anyone else care to join the lynch on Brandon?[/COLOR]
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DualReaver Wrote:[COLOR="green"]I agree. I personally believe mason groups shouldn't get this big anyway. But that's besides the point.

Oxygen is a non-metal, so we already know who he is. That means BTA obviously can't be.[/COLOR]

Which means Maspan is a liar or got hit by a bus driver, but given your vouching, he's probably a liar.

I don't get why you guys aren't voting for him.
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Mephisto Wrote:OK wtp is going on with this mason shyt, seriously?

Seriously. =_=
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