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Southperry's own Thief Flaunting thread =D
K so I made a temporary overall so i can wear a luk face..

Dex equips:

25 Helm
16 Earings
22 Overall
4 Shoes
7 Cape
5 Face
7 pendant
+dex=86

easiest way to become dexless with craven is to:

upgrade shoes,cape, get HT egg, make perm Overall, Upgrade face too..

So much work in becoming dexless craven any tips? Rolleyes or stuff i should do..
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ZooK Wrote:K so I made a temporary overall so i can wear a luk face..

Dex equips:

25 Helm
16 Earings
22 Overall
4 Shoes
7 Cape
5 Face
7 pendant
+dex=86

easiest way to become dexless with craven is to:

upgrade shoes,cape, get HT egg, make perm Overall, Upgrade face too..

So much work in becoming dexless craven any tips? Rolleyes or stuff i should do..
All the things you mentioned, plus get a better zhelm. use helm dex not acc, and aim for at least 30 dex, Ive seen as high as 35 dex.
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need pendent+egg and 115+ dagger Frown
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Do other NLs really train with warrior elixirs over ciders? I don't understand why anyone would.

Get enough stars, ciders, and pots for 1 hour. Recharge stars when you use the "to showa" and "to mush shrine" pot-scrolls. It's 8 fricken' attack more.

How much time is spent gaining mesos and upgrading equips for 1, maybe 2 attack? This is 8 attack for under 1 min of extra time spent per hour.... >____>; Not to mention it gives you an excuse to carry less stars which saves you money.

*is confused as to why people spend hours upon hours making mesos per week in some form to gain 1-2 attack after a few months when they could gain 8 attack with little-to-no-effort*
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banditcom Wrote:Do other NLs really train with warrior elixirs over ciders? I don't understand why anyone would.

Get enough stars, ciders, and pots for 1 hour. Recharge stars when you use the "to showa" and "to mush shrine" pot-scrolls. It's 8 fricken' attack more.

How much time is spent gaining mesos and upgrading equips for 1, maybe 2 attack? This is 8 attack for under 1 min of extra time spent per hour.... >____>; Not to mention it gives you an excuse to carry less stars which saves you money.

*is confused as to why people spend hours upon hours making mesos per week in some form to gain 1-2 attack after a few months when they could gain 8 attack with little-to-no-effort*

Because some maps aren't that easy to find empty when other people might train there as well? Personally, I use Warrior Elixirs for convenience. More convenient for me to take 500 of them rather than a few Ciders.
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I use ciders and keep 100 chews for when I cant have someone hold the map, much easier option just build your chews in apq and buy when u see 50k< in fm
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im with banditcom on this, ciders last for a decent time, it takes me about 1-2 mins to repot an hours worth of ciders, and for 8 atk more im sure way more nls would use them than primitive warrior elixirs. why use 12 atk when u can use 20?
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Silver_ice Wrote:im with banditcom on this, ciders last for a decent time, it takes me about 1-2 mins to repot an hours worth of ciders, and for 8 atk more im sure way more nls would use them than primitive warrior elixirs. why use 12 atk when u can use 20?


Because not everyone has maxed "USE" slots, or place for like 20-30 ciders.
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I recently switched to Ciders, and imo, I'd use Ciders/Chews for bossing, and WEs for training, but that's just my opinion (I have 20 Ciders on me per recharge, and that's with maxed USE-inven expansion). Speaking of which, here's my NL with lv 1 Triple Throw and a Cider pot!

[Image: Kasu_Cider_dmg_Lv1_TT.png]
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Haha got really bored, looked through old SS ^_^. So I found some of my old Hermit DMG. Resetting my shadowers AP post more of his dmg when I finish.

Level 15~18 SP around there.
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Delta End Wrote:Haha got really bored, looked through old SS ^_^. So I found some of my old Hermit DMG. Resetting my shadowers AP post more of his dmg when I finish.

Level 15~18 SP around there.
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O_o is that a 5.8k?.. Dayum not only is your shadower godly but so was your hermit -_-".
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I put the "F" in Failure.

[Image: HermitRange.png]

My nub equips:

6 dex 3 luk Shoe
17/16/15/15 Helm
5/5/5/5/100/100 Deputy Star
51/1 Rab
9 att 3 dex Blue WG
2 att 8 luk PAC
14 dex Sauna

B>Proness
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banditcom Wrote:Do other NLs really train with warrior elixirs over ciders? I don't understand why anyone would.

Get enough stars, ciders, and pots for 1 hour. Recharge stars when you use the "to showa" and "to mush shrine" pot-scrolls. It's 8 fricken' attack more.

How much time is spent gaining mesos and upgrading equips for 1, maybe 2 attack? This is 8 attack for under 1 min of extra time spent per hour.... >____>; Not to mention it gives you an excuse to carry less stars which saves you money.

*is confused as to why people spend hours upon hours making mesos per week in some form to gain 1-2 attack after a few months when they could gain 8 attack with little-to-no-effort*

Ramonsterr Wrote:Because not everyone has maxed "USE" slots, or place for like 20-30 ciders.

What he said.. Not everyone spends money on this game.
Management Wrote:Because some maps aren't that easy to find empty when other people might train there as well? Personally, I use Warrior Elixirs for convenience. More convenient for me to take 500 of them rather than a few Ciders.

And what he said.. I use warrior elixirs for convenience also.

But then again, I don't know how many sets of stars last you 1 hour while using Shadow Claw. Ciders last 6 minutes with max Alchemist right?
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RajPwN Wrote:But then again, I don't know how many sets of stars last you 1 hour while using Shadow Claw. Ciders last 6 minutes with max Alchemist right?

you can just calculate it. level 1 shadow = 62 seconds. 1 hour = 3,600 seconds. i found ciders annoying to rebuff every 4.5 minutes.. even when i trained on bains in the armory, it was annoying to have to re-buy them every ~40 minutes. it was more annoying to rebuy them training at newts.
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butterfli Wrote:you can just calculate it. level 1 shadow = 62 seconds. 1 hour = 3,600 seconds. i found ciders annoying to rebuff every 4.5 minutes.. even when i trained on bains in the armory, it was annoying to have to re-buy them every ~40 minutes. it was more annoying to rebuy them training at newts.

Like I already said, Ciders have their uses, but I wouldn't really use them for your "everyday-grinding". Especially at places like Newties, ew~. I have maxed USE slots, and even then, recharging them is a pain.

As for Raj, every Cider = 5 mins, with Alch, it's 7.5 minutes.
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Kasuhitomi Wrote:As for Raj, every Cider = 5 mins, with Alch, it's 7.5 minutes.[/color]

if you time it, it only lasts 3 minutes and then you're gonna be like lolnexon typos.
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butterfli Wrote:if you time it, it only lasts 3 minutes and then you're gonna be like lolnexon typos.

Oh, fudgenuggets, I never timed my Ciders when I used it. That was a mistake on my part as well, lawl. Nexon still fails, regardless.
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last slot of my dragon khanjar failed -_-".....

so final khanjar is 25 atk 0 slots. =*(

I guess i'll try to make up for it by trying to scroll a really good kanzir.
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drrusty Wrote:last slot of my dragon khanjar failed -_-".....

So final khanjar is 25 atk 0 slots. =*(

i guess i'll try to make up for it by trying to scroll a really good kanzir.

...

You didn't wait for the white scroll dude?!
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DrRusty Wrote:last slot of my dragon khanjar failed -_-".....

so final khanjar is 25 atk 0 slots. =*(

I guess i'll try to make up for it by trying to scroll a really good kanzir.


If all-else fails, another option would be to .. Clean Slate it, which is costly, and at the same time, rather risky. =|
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