[1.2.355] More balancing

Now let me ask this to the math professors. With it's new speed how is Illusion now?

Here's a video of Evans after 1.2.355 *credits go to spadow for the link:

[video=youtube;xznCOv27kfY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xznCOv27kfY[/video]

Is Illusion the same/close to the speed as Chain Lightning now? O.o

Evans are looking to be the fastest attacking mage class aside from battle mages.

wth...I hope with them bringing the Dmg back to 225 it's 840ms again x__X

So do I. I just did some math (which I probably screwed up somewhere). Without factoring Maple Warrior, mob PDRate, and Combat Orders, I attempted to figure out the warrior DPS using clean Reverse items (2H for Hero, 1H for Paladin), max stats at level 200 (999,23,4,4), clean gear, and only their own buffs. Heroes use Brave Slash, Paladins use Blast, and Dark Knights use Dragon Crusher. All of these are directed at one target. I did try to factor in criticals, so I hope this seems about right. The DPS stands at:

Heroes w/o Enrage: 81336.82343
Heroes with Enrage: 130138.9175
Dark Knights under Dark Force, Crusher: 120708.0898
Dark Knights under Dark Force, Fury: 96069.43852
Paladins Dual, Blast: 133995.5147
Paladins Dual, Holy Weak: 200378.6137
Paladin Dual, ACB: 67732.81312
Paladin, Holy Weak: 101288.5187

If these numbers are correct in this senario, Heroes are better at 1v1 than Dark Knights, Dark Knights are better at mobs than Heroes, and Paladins win at 1v1 regardless. Paladins only accel in mob DPS with mobs of 4 or more when fighting elementally weak and mobs of 7 at any time (which, of course, is factoring in Combat Orders).
Your two cents and corrections are welcome as I most likely forgot something.

Fiel can you confirm Passiv effect of Snow Charge.

Here's a video of Evans after 1.2.355 *credits go to spadow for the link:

Is Illusion the same/close to the speed as Chain Lightning now? O.o

Evans are looking to be the fastest attacking mage class aside from battle mages.

810 ms is the "average" attack speed for every class. Chain Lightning is a bit faster, but Evans have Faster (3) cast speed while AMs have Fast (4) cast speed, so Illusion actually comes out slightly faster. I think it's a bit ridiculous that the dragon moves so fast now. I mean, sure, one of the biggest reasons people hate Evans is because they attack so damn slow, but the new ninja dragon just doesn't really fit with the animations (especially Thrust) that were originally intended to be about 3 times slower. I think they should change Illusion back to around 1050 base cast speed, the cast speed of Crusher (and with a Fast (5) weapon), and buff the damage accordingly. That's slow enough to look convincing without being annoying.

Wow, earthquake is really fast too 0.o

I think it's a bit ridiculous that the dragon moves so fast now. I mean, sure, one of the biggest reasons people hate Evans is because they attack so damn slow, but the new ninja dragon just doesn't really fit with the animations (especially Thrust) that were originally intended to be about 3 times slower. I think they should change Illusion back to around 1050 base cast speed, the cast speed of Crusher (and with a Fast (5) weapon), and buff the damage accordingly. That's slow enough to look convincing without being annoying.

Eh, I don't know, I like the way it looks now.

I think it's a bit ridiculous that the dragon moves so fast now. I mean, sure, one of the biggest reasons people hate Evans is because they attack so damn slow, but the new ninja dragon just doesn't really fit with the animations (especially Thrust) that were originally intended to be about 3 times slower. I think they should change Illusion back to around 1050 base cast speed, the cast speed of Crusher (and with a Fast (5) weapon), and buff the damage accordingly. That's slow enough to look convincing without being annoying.

And yet archmage/bishop summons still take 3 seconds to attack a target... >.>

Can't wait to see how the funded evan bossing vids will look after this revamp.

So do I. I just did some math (which I probably screwed up somewhere). Without factoring Maple Warrior, mob PDRate, and Combat Orders, I attempted to figure out the warrior DPS using clean Reverse items (2H for Hero, 1H for Paladin), max stats at level 200 (999,23,4,4), clean gear, and only their own buffs. Heroes use Brave Slash, Paladins use Blast, and Dark Knights use Dragon Crusher. All of these are directed at one target. I did try to factor in criticals, so I hope this seems about right. The DPS stands at:

Heroes w/o Enrage: 81336.82343
Heroes with Enrage: 130138.9175
Dark Knights under Dark Force, Crusher: 120708.0898
Dark Knights under Dark Force, Fury: 96069.43852
Paladins Dual, Blast: 133995.5147
Paladins Dual, Holy Weak: 200378.6137
Paladin Dual, ACB: 67732.81312
Paladin, Holy Weak: 101288.5187

If these numbers are correct in this senario, Heroes are better at 1v1 than Dark Knights, Dark Knights are better at mobs than Heroes, and Paladins win at 1v1 regardless. Paladins only accel in mob DPS with mobs of 4 or more when fighting elementally weak and mobs of 7 at any time (which, of course, is factoring in Combat Orders).
Your two cents and corrections are welcome as I most likely forgot something.

Dark knights use sac for bosses, and what speed weapon?

Did dragon blink (random teleport) get removed? Why is that evan walking everywhere?

Sigh.... sad for the BowMasters again.... but.... honestly... Arrow Rain is like "spamm-able" now..

And yet archmage/bishop summons still take 3 seconds to attack a target... >.>

Can't wait to see how the funded evan bossing vids will look after this revamp.

That's because Archmage summons attack independently. They're totally different and not subject to comparison.

Did dragon blink (random teleport) get removed? Why is that evan walking everywhere?

[video=youtube;d3uHWANMoKY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3uHWANMoKY&feature=sub[/video]

They look very powerful now. She uses random tele
[video=youtube;LLyH4xVrEBM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLyH4xVrEBM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/video]
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That's because Archmage summons attack independently. They're totally different and not subject to comparison.

Since the concept of an evan uses a dragon as opposed to the character for attacking purposes, the slow casting speed made sense given the dragon's size end game.

Now that the dragon can attack that fast (even faster than cl?), I was wondering why the other summons still remained slow despite being a similar size.

Everyone thinks that 225% Brave Slash with 840ms delay isn't overpowered? That 2500%/s isn't overpowered when Blast can only do 1600%/s?

The dragon is not a summon, so asking about "other summons" while discussing it is misleading.
The dragon is just a fancy graphic instead of a staff/wand, the real attacker is the character and it makes sense that he can attack as fast as other mages.
The AM summons are supporters. They attack independently of the character, who could be spamming CL or w/e other attack at the same time. They are slow not because of their size but because Whoever decided that's enough "free" additional damage for a mage to be doing.

Everyone thinks that 225% Brave Slash with 840ms delay isn't overpowered? That 2500%/s isn't overpowered when Blast can only do 1600%/s?

I hope that isn't including criticals and is counting mobs because those numbers seem far off. Take a look at my post back a few posts. I did some (probably failed) math behind the three warriors. Brave Slash is far underpowered in comparison.

EDIT:

Dark knights use sac for bosses, and what speed weapon?

Normal (6) 2H sword for Hero, Slow (7) Spear for Dark Knight, and Fast (5) 1H Sword for Paladin all under booster effects. This was not including PDRate as I stated, and Sacrifice is 690% where Crusher is 170% * 4 (680%) attacks. If you really need to see the difference, I could change it.

Brave Slash with Enrage does 1894.7%/s now
Brave Slash with Enrage before the nerf speed and damage nerf did 2742.9%/s
Brave Slash with Enrage before the nerf speed nerf did 2571.4%/s
Blast with Combat Orders and Holy Charge does 1935.4%/s

Brave Slash was grossly overpowered, and considering it practically matched Blast's DPS without Enrage so it could hit three monsters, and basically matched ACB's DPS on six monsters with only three targets, this nerf should have been a long time coming.

and Sacrifice is 690% where Crusher is 170% * 4 (680%) attacks.

The difference is speed per cast.
Sac is way faster than crusher. Even if it doesn't ignore pdrate it's still a better 1vs1 attack.

Power Strike/Slash Blast/Sacrifice/Normal Attack
Fast (5): 720ms (-30ms)

Crusher (16-30 points)
Fast (5): 990ms (-60ms)

And again, only Evan videos and nothing about Aran. Why this much hate? there's 2385098 Evan videos and 3 for Aran (which are basically same map and same recorder)

And again, only Evan videos and nothing about Aran. Why this much hate? there's 2385098 Evan videos and 3 for Aran (which are basically same map and same recorder)

It was the same for v.12353 =/
The only vids I could find were mostly evans along with dbs and arans.

Still waiting to see the new ice strike and now I'm interested in the new snipe/DoT display changes.