GM's, Talk Like a Pirate day = Pirates?

This is no way a hint towards a release date

I know I said this a bunch at Sleepywood, but some of you here apparently missed it.

So I'm going to say it again, here.

[SIZE="6"]TESTING CLIENT/SERVER IS/WAS A PUBLIC RELATIONS MOVE, NOT A MEANS TO HAVE BETTER QUALITY CONTROL.[/SIZE]

They didn't put the test server up so that they can fix bugs that were reported. Hell, I can tell you that there were hundreds, potentially thousands of unique bugs/glitches/typos identified, yet I can say with confidence that one could count the amount of fixes they made on one hand. Even after the patch data goes live in the official server, they still only fixed the bigger bugs, leaving some other pumpernickelty ones, particularly ones which have been known to exist for ages.

So then, why would they have players test content if not so that they could fix bugs? Because having a contest to play content early under the guise of beta testing gears up people and builds interest in otherwise uninteresting material. To be blunt, most people didn't even care about bug fixing, and this is particularly obvious when you take notice of how many people care that bugs reported during testing phase WERE NOT FIXED WHEN IT WENT LIVE IN OFFICIAL. But they just wanted people interested. Giving an exclusive contest to let players test content early, with a promise that they'll fix reported bugs... that's a big morale boost. I gotta tell you, I was hyped when this pumpernickel happened because I thought for once we'd actually be able to get new pumpernickel without it being riddled with bugs, and I actually figured with the fewer amounts of reports (compared to the flooding torrent they get from the thousands of regular players in the official version), they'd actually be able to identify and correct longstanding problems.

So again, tespia is for public relations, not for testing. New content being released directly onto the official version is not any more detrimental to the overall health of the game than if it had languished for a week on a beta world. Even if the new content is riddled with bugs, those bugs would still be present when the content hits official, and the bugs would probably only be fixed in the next official content patch after that if the bugs are particularly game breaking.

As a specific point of reference in regards to Pirates, this is new, massive content, and regardless of what you think, they may well go with the "omg new pumpernickel big surprise no one gets to test it" like they did with the Masteria expansion we all recently enjoyed. After all, like has been conjectured more than a few times, we could be potentially the first version with English Pirates, and that is a much bigger deal than feeding Korean quest dialogs through Google Translate and slapping it in the new quests for Ariant.

a specific point of reference in regards to Pirates, this is new, massive content, and regardless of what you think, they may well go with the "omg new pumpernickel big surprise no one gets to test it" like they did with the Masteria expansion we all recently enjoyed.

No one enjoyed the big foot exploits and bannings which were CLEARLY PART OF A MAJOR GLITCHED THAT NEXON MISSED WHEN TESTING FOR CONTENT THEMSELVES.

I know I said this a bunch at Sleepywood, but some of you here apparently missed it.

So I'm going to say it again, here.

[SIZE="6"]TESTING CLIENT/SERVER IS/WAS A PUBLIC RELATIONS MOVE, NOT A MEANS TO HAVE BETTER QUALITY CONTROL.[/SIZE]

They didn't put the test server up so that they can fix bugs that were reported. Hell, I can tell you that there were hundreds, potentially thousands of unique bugs/glitches/typos identified, yet I can say with confidence that one could count the amount of fixes they made on one hand. Even after the patch data goes live in the official server, they still only fixed the bigger bugs, leaving some other pumpernickelty ones, particularly ones which have been known to exist for ages.

So then, why would they have players test content if not so that they could fix bugs? Because having a contest to play content early under the guise of beta testing gears up people and builds interest in otherwise uninteresting material. To be blunt, most people didn't even care about bug fixing, and this is particularly obvious when you take notice of how many people care that bugs reported during testing phase WERE NOT FIXED WHEN IT WENT LIVE IN OFFICIAL. But they just wanted people interested. Giving an exclusive contest to let players test content early, with a promise that they'll fix reported bugs... that's a big morale boost. I gotta tell you, I was hyped when this pumpernickel happened because I thought for once we'd actually be able to get new pumpernickel without it being riddled with bugs, and I actually figured with the fewer amounts of reports (compared to the flooding torrent they get from the thousands of regular players in the official version), they'd actually be able to identify and correct longstanding problems.

So again, tespia is for public relations, not for testing. New content being released directly onto the official version is not any more detrimental to the overall health of the game than if it had languished for a week on a beta world. Even if the new content is riddled with bugs, those bugs would still be present when the content hits official, and the bugs would probably only be fixed in the next official content patch after that if the bugs are particularly game breaking.

As a specific point of reference in regards to Pirates, this is new, massive content, and regardless of what you think, they may well go with the "omg new pumpernickel big surprise no one gets to test it" like they did with the Masteria expansion we all recently enjoyed. After all, like has been conjectured more than a few times, we could be potentially the first version with English Pirates, and that is a much bigger deal than feeding Korean quest dialogs through Google Translate and slapping it in the new quests for Ariant.

Isn't this like your....fourth time saying this?

Well, Nexon did fix the disconnecting bug during third term, but other than that, the test server is probably to get everyone hyped up, like you said.

They'd probably threw in the MaplePoints to think they're actually fixing the glitches, lol.

I also notice one thing. They have no/little time to fix the glitches.

Week of testing starts.
Week of testing ends.
Patch begins one minute later after week of testing ends.

Unless you count the time the server is down, Nexon could barely fix the glitches.

I know I said this a bunch at Sleepywood, but some of you here apparently missed it.

So I'm going to say it again, here.

[SIZE="6"]TESTING CLIENT/SERVER IS/WAS A PUBLIC RELATIONS MOVE, NOT A MEANS TO HAVE BETTER QUALITY CONTROL.[/SIZE]

They didn't put the test server up so that they can fix bugs that were reported. Hell, I can tell you that there were hundreds, potentially thousands of unique bugs/glitches/typos identified, yet I can say with confidence that one could count the amount of fixes they made on one hand. Even after the patch data goes live in the official server, they still only fixed the bigger bugs, leaving some other pumpernickelty ones, particularly ones which have been known to exist for ages.

AHH WALL OF TEXT *hides under covers*
So then, why would they have players test content if not so that they could fix bugs? Because having a contest to play content early under the guise of beta testing gears up people and builds interest in otherwise uninteresting material. To be blunt, most people didn't even care about bug fixing, and this is particularly obvious when you take notice of how many people care that bugs reported during testing phase WERE NOT FIXED WHEN IT WENT LIVE IN OFFICIAL. But they just wanted people interested. Giving an exclusive contest to let players test content early, with a promise that they'll fix reported bugs... that's a big morale boost. I gotta tell you, I was hyped when this pumpernickel happened because I thought for once we'd actually be able to get new pumpernickel without it being riddled with bugs, and I actually figured with the fewer amounts of reports (compared to the flooding torrent they get from the thousands of regular players in the official version), they'd actually be able to identify and correct longstanding problems.

So again, tespia is for public relations, not for testing. New content being released directly onto the official version is not any more detrimental to the overall health of the game than if it had languished for a week on a beta world. Even if the new content is riddled with bugs, those bugs would still be present when the content hits official, and the bugs would probably only be fixed in the next official content patch after that if the bugs are particularly game breaking.

As a specific point of reference in regards to Pirates, this is new, massive content, and regardless of what you think, they may well go with the "omg new pumpernickel big surprise no one gets to test it" like they did with the Masteria expansion we all recently enjoyed. After all, like has been conjectured more than a few times, we could be potentially the first version with English Pirates, and that is a much bigger deal than feeding Korean quest dialogs through Google Translate and slapping it in the new quests for Ariant.

AHH wall of text!! *hides under covers*

Totally agreed.

I noticed in the several Tespia rounds that NEXON never or almost never fixed the reported bugs, just the major ones.

Yeah, probably what you're saying is right: Tespia is only for public relations.

I'm wondering when the next Tespia round will be..

Look, they didn't let us test Masteria content because it was the first time ever MapleStory got that content. But maybe with Pirates, they will let us test the patch..

I doubt it, but who knows.. usually the patch comes after 3 weeks of Server Checks / after 1 month from the last patch, doesn't it?

And Tespia submissions are opened one week before the patch. Then they open Tespia and close it the day of the GMS patch. Now, shouldn't this week be the new patch? If yes, then we won't have Tespia again.

It's not sure they will do a patch, tho. NEXON doesn't always make patches after 1 month. Sometimes they delay them, like they did with the Crimsonwood Keep's one. They did like 4-5 Server Maintenances before the patch, when they usually do 3 (if I'm not wrong).

Pirates will not be coming to GMS untill early next year. I promise.

If anything Sept 19th they will be giving GMS a release date.
which even then I highly doubt.

Pirates will not be coming to GMS untill early next year. I promise.

If anything Sept 19th they will be giving GMS a release date.
which even then I highly doubt.

how do you know?

Mid to late September isn't out of line with when other versions are getting Pirates. I'm actually surprised MSEA hasn't had one of their typical magazine interviews telling everyone that MSEA is getting this new class very soon. Maybe we'll actually have a turn to get the more desired content first

this is why we probably will. they wanted a malaysia area for over a year, and they got it.

Yeah, it's probably when they'll make the official announcement or something, not the actual release. But it has to be something about pirates. As humorous as GM's are, I doubt they'd randomly mention this. =_= Knowing Nexon, they'd rather build up hype than try and surprise us. Just look at the countdowns and whatnot in other versions.

Pirates will not be coming to GMS untill early next year. I promise.

If anything Sept 19th they will be giving GMS a release date.
which even then I highly doubt.

Hey, look at this guy. He's psychic and knows Nexon's release plans.

Please tell me more. Like...when are we getting Time Temple?

Hey, look at this guy. He's psychic and knows Nexon's release plans.

Please tell me more. Like...when are we getting Time Temple?

Lol. Yeah. And plsmagatia. And lolworldtour areas? :f6: And what about uberwood keep?

hey guys... the 19th is like 10 days away. instead of arguing about it til that very day, cant we just wait and find out? O_O

hey guys... the 19th is like 10 days away. instead of arguing about it til that very day, cant we just wait and find out? O_O

Who is this guy? What is this, a joke?
You can't just.. HOLD OFF talking about pirates... they're so fkin amazang! gottahavapirate.

Who is this guy? What is this, a joke?
You can't just.. HOLD OFF talking about pirates... they're so fkin amazang! gottahavapirate.

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