Dude, I'm getting a Wii!

Jesus, that's more expensive than like 80% of the NEW stuff on the PSN. I can get like 3 PS1 games for as much as a single game on the Wii from what you guys are saying. Well, probably going to stay away from that, then. I'm okay with paying like $5 at most for an old game that costs them literally nothing to produce with presumably no benefits going to the original creators.

I would suggest the Trauma series. There's a lot of motion control used, but it's the direct opposite of flailing. Plus the whole med sim is a pretty unique genre in itself. As for RPGs, I'd suggest the Last Story when it eventually comes out in NA. It's a action RPG made by Mistwalker studios and directed by Hironobu Sakaguchi, the guy who created Final Fantasy. Though seeing that you didn't say much about FF besides Crystal Chronicles, I dunno if you'd be interested or not. It does look pretty different compared to the last few numbered FFs though.

Well, I made this topic with the impression that most of Southperry is already familiar with my tastes, loves and hates as I have been incredibly vocal about it in the past. I have a very love-hate relationship with the Final Fantasy series... but I usually play them all anyway.

...I just looked at some images of Last Story on IGN (first link on google after wikipedia and nintendo) and uh... what is it? It looks like a shooter or something. Is it supposed to, in essence, play like an updated Parasite Eve? Kind of looks like the direction they're going. Except with MECHS.

Also hahahahaha the name. FINAL FANTASY CREATOR INTRODUCES: THE LAST STORY. One track mind much?

Well with Final Fantasy for the Wii I love FF4 The After Years. A very epic sequel unlike another that in my opinion didnt deserve it... X-2. It plays out in chapters. You have the main story that features Cecil & Rosa's Son Ceodore as well as everyones favorite minor characters Biggs and Wedge. Then you have side chapters starring other characters like Rydia, Porom, Edge and FuSoYa.

They might be DLC but they seemed worth it to me for all that extra story and character development goodness. Finally there is the Endgame chapter which has all the characters come together for a final and incredibly long, as well as difficult, dungeon. And yes all the playable characters from the original FF4 are useable...with an exception.

Jesus, that's more expensive than like 80% of the NEW stuff on the PSN. I can get like 3 PS1 games for as much as a single game on the Wii from what you guys are saying. Well, probably going to stay away from that, then. I'm okay with paying like $5 at most for an old game that costs them literally nothing to produce with presumably no benefits going to the original creators.

I thought PSN released 'new' content in sequences, so it'd take you like 5-6 DLC package purchases to get a 'full' game?
I'm not really sure but that's what everyone I know says.

I thought PSN released 'new' content in sequences, so it'd take you like 5-6 DLC package purchases to get a 'full' game?
I'm not really sure but that's what everyone I know says.

That's the case with some games (like LittleBigPlanet) but not all. The reason is that the PS3 has a certain number or value of trophies that can be assigned to a game on release, so sometimes they'll do multiple expansions to add more trophies because each expansion can also have a full number of trophies. And people LOVE trophies. But most DLC is pretty cheap or completely worth the cost.

More information on Dokapon please. Time is not that big of an issue for me, if that's what your problem with it was.

Your paragraph about ToS2 seems to be missing some words or something. I don't understand what any of it means.

Will check out Zack and Wiki, heard many good things about it when it came out. Couldn't really get into Katamari though.

FFCC: My Life As King sounds like a more kiddy war game. Not super interested if that's what it is. I like to get my grind on.

I own SMRPG (the actual cartridge) but I certainly wouldn't mind having a legit copy of SoM, even if it is only in data form. How exactly do wii points work?

Adding to what xBTAx said, there are classes and levels in addition to the money. If you land on the same spot as another player, you fight them and the victor gets to steal stuff from the loser. Story mode has objectives to meet in order to finish each chapter. The winner of each chapter obtains a castle in addition to their towns. There is a class called "darkling" that you have to sacrifice everything you own in order to become, but gain extreme power and abilities (IE re-summon monsters to every town on the map making all players lose their source of income). Overall it is a extremely simple system with a long, LONG play time that is tedious unless you have a room-mate or sibling or someone who will always be there. Just imagine playing monopoly with swords for a several hundred turns (not joking, I only completed one game in 142 weeks which each were 7 turns).

Sorry for the way I said that. I hadn't played in quite a bit of time and only finished one playthrough so honestly I don't know as much as several of the Tales devotes we have around here. I'll put it this way (note numbers may be off); story characters asides from the primary two can only level up to 50. Monsters have various ranks, lowest having a max level of 25, and highest of 200. If you want to tackle the difficult content in the game you must use the monsters. They don't have many glamorous techniques either. I agree that the story and characters are both kind of bland, however was still recommending giving it a shot. That's what I was trying to say.

Z&W actually has a pretty good set of puzzles, but expect to start levels over again since some traps are death and many of the levels have more than one solution. Munchables was basically Katamari nom; and deBlob is a turn this B&W world colorful game.

FFCC: MLaK; To a certain extent, I'll agree that it is a kiddy game. You do have to keep moral up in order to make sure the adventurers are happy at home and that involves spending most of each day randomly talking with townsfolk. I wouldn't really call it a war game though. You post up to three missions each day for the adventurers to tackle and leave the rest to them. No real strategy other than setting up the parties and making sure the stores in town are stocked with items/skills that will be useful in the dungeons. You don't even set their equipment; they have to buy it on their own time and with their own money. Again, different; and again, RPG-starved console.

SNES games are primarily $8.00 each. $12.00 ones are only ones that were imported and translated specifically as virtual console titles. N64 is generally $10. Yes, I'd very much agree that those prices are expensive. They never have sales either. I'd love it if they would take on steam's pricing strategy, but I still buy many of the primary games of the past as I can since I'd like to undo my piracy from years ago. I'd imagine anyone would do the same if they worked in the industry.

I'm going to join the others in recommending Galaxy 1 at least. I wouldn't say go buy both, since I still see them as too similar to one another, but not giving at least one of them a shot would be a shame.

Again, most of my recommendations here are not all that strong. I tend to buy lots of games and rate them decently so long as I got something I felt was value out of them. I know a gem when I see it, but I typically don't hate on games either.

Hopefully this post isn't any more confusing, as it is 3AM.

My recommendation list:

Super Mario Galaxy (Great gameplay fun levels and alot of extras for the people who want everything 100% like me xD)

Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Just as great but more challenging if you ask me also with the special worlds)

New Super Mario Bros (Must-have if you loved the older Mario bros series... play it more people its 10x as fun)

Super Paper Mario (I have to admit not as good as the gamecube ones like thousand year door and for the 64 but still really good)

Super Smash Bros Brawl (I liked melee more to be honest better gameplay but this version has way more awesome characters and an epic storyline with cutscenes which are great xD)

Super Mario kart Wii (All i can say is... i played to much WAY to much... Oh god trying to beat your own score over and over and finally succeding and get in top ranking is FUN)

Metroid Prime 3 Corruption (If you love the metroid series like Metroid/Metroid 2/ Super Metroid/Metroid prime hunters/Metroid Fusion/Metroid zero/Metroid prime 1/Metroid prime 2 You will LOVE IT its so good...)

Wario world the shake dimension (If you are one of those persons who like 2D action and just HAS to have everything u can get in the game with 100% then this is a must-have its so hard to get everything there is and takes ALOT of time.)

Last but not least... I dont think anyone has mentioned this one before.

Monster Hunter tri. (Loooooooooove it is so. freaking. big. And so many options and if you have internet its even better! way better if you ask me. You go out slaying small monsters for bigger weapons, so you can kill bigger monsters to make better even better/larger and there are so many freaking different paths and types of weapons)
With Monster Hunter Tri. Whenever you defeat a boss... it feels really really good! Its not like u kill it in 5 mins or 10... No it takes about 30-40 minutes and can be hard as hell too.

If you're going to get the couple of 2d platformers you mentioned in the op, I'd say its probably a good idea to get NSMBwii too. It's not -as- good in single player as it is multiplayer, but its still a decent 2d mario game. also, Wario world: the shake dimension , or whatever you crazy americans are calling it (Wario land: shake it? I think)

Anything else? Mostly into RPGs

The wii is a bit bare in this area, but Final fantasy: the after years (wiiware- download game) is a decent game, -expect to pay a lot for all the extra download chapters though.
Fire emblem: Radiant dawn is a good turn based strategy game-,much better than the pomegranate ds fire emblem game, though the plot is quite ... odd. Should probably play the gamecube game, fire emblem :path of radiance first if you haven't (gamecube game), since its a sequel storyline wise.
Maybe monster hunter tri, though I hate the game, it seems to be a you love it or you hate it thing.
Rune factory frontier is decent cross between a standard rpg and harvest moon, though if you don't like harvest moon games , I wouldn't recommend it.

Aren't Galaxy games just spiritual sequels to 64 and Sunshine? How can you call them "unlike any game [you]'ve played" when they're essentially the same "do 7 missions on each level like getting red coins"

Nah, galaxy 1/2 (2 being the better of them imo, it has yoshi! and not in the cameo way sunshine had him) is much better than the mess that is 64 (face it people , it aged terribly), galaxy 1 and 2 are much more like a 2d mario game than either of the previous entries. By that I mean, apart from the purple coin stages, the objectives are almost all "get to the end of the stage for a star!". I think not at least renting one of the two to give it a shot isn't doing them justice, but in the end its up to you.

If you like fighting games, I'd suggest Budokai Tenkaichi 3. It's Dragon Ball and I don't know if you like that much, but the game itself is fun as hell.

Budokai tenkaichi 2 is better. Don't get either of them if you don't like dragonball though.

I hear Other M is terrible.

You hear wrong. Its not close to as good as the prime games, but its certainly not terrible, though it is below normal nintendo standard (i.e., maybe 80%ish if we were talking review scores)..

Also, seconding Muramasa. It's an excellent 2D sidescroller with RPG elements, just like Odin Sphere. It can be pretty difficulty particularly during bosses.

Thirding muramasa, though don't go in expecting anything difficult at all outside of boss fights, the game is hilariously easy and every enemy thats not a boss can be dealt with in exactly the same way.

I disliked zack and wiki, i really tried to like it, and I enjoy puzzle games, but some of the levels are just pineappleing stupid, and being able to die in a puzzle game = lol. It's more of a trial and error game than a puzzle game

This is my list of games sarah, my top would be Monster Hunter Tri, for the in depth gameplay, weapon and armor system and long gameplay with nice online, but you never seemed to care for the game when I mentioned it, so here's my list, and some back up on your choice for super paper mario. This isn't the exact order in which I rank the games, I'm just going to list them.

1. "Super Paper Mario" is super fun, I got it a while back and was hooked on it for ages, it's different from the previous games in the Paper series, but a great one nonetheless.

2. Sin and Punishment : Star Successor, it's an usual type of game to be honest, but it's nice and challenging, but not the type of challenging as to where you just get frustrated that you can't kill a certain boss, but you'll just want to keep trying.

3. Metroid Prime Trilogy, I'm no big fan on Metroid, but the Prime Trilogy was really fun to play through, I didn't want to put the controller down while playing it.

4. (Insert Monster Hunter Tri here)

5. Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, sooo much fun, it's everything you love about Mario and tons more.

6. Obviously LOZ:Twilight Princess, most people probably already played it on the Gamecube, but it's a great game and I found it to be way more exciting on the Wii, using the Wiimote kinda had a way of getting you sucked into the game, most of the time I got so lost in it, it would go from morning to night before I knew it.

7. Resident Evil 4, Wii Edition, a great game in the Resident Evil series, and the Wii edition just makes it all the more fun, great game.

8. LOZ: Skyward Sword, well of course I haven't played it, but it's a Legend of Zelda game. It's going to be awesome.

9. MarioKart Wii, it's not a favorite of mine, but it is really fun especially with friends, or just online. I'm not a fan of racing games but this is a great one.

10. New Super Mario bros, very fun, it's a little short for my taste but with the fun you have during the gameplay it's well worth it.

11. Donkey Kong Country Returns, Kirby Epic Yarn, just look downright fun, you'd be crazy not to get em. Epic Mickey (I'm iffy on the Micky too) but it looks like it could be fun.

I know I listed the games you already said you would get, but it's just my 2 cents to throw in towards what I'm interested in, maybe point out some of the games I enjoyed who knows you might enjoy em.

Dokapon paragraph

Yeah, not going to spend 60 hours on a board game. I thought it was kind of like BBS in that it had board game segments but nope, no thanks.

ToS2

Why is it that all RPG's these days attempt to make things as exceedingly confusing as possible? I remember when I could sit down and pick up and RPG I hadn't played in months or even ever if I was visiting my cousins and just get into it (gameplay, not story) but even recently I revisited Star Ocean 4 and White Knight Chronicles and it took me several hours to learn how to play again. All of these ridiculous systems are so unnecessary and don't really add that much to gameplay. Collecting monsters should be something you can do for fun, not something necessary for beating the game. Why even bother putting in new party members if I can just run out and find a monster that's going to be 50 levels stronger than them. And why are all of the humans except the main two (Lloyd and Colette I presume) such wimps?

Z&W actually has a pretty good set of puzzles, but expect to start levels over again since some traps are death and many of the levels have more than one solution. Munchables was basically Katamari nom; and deBlob is a turn this B&W world colorful game.

Just to be sure, Z&W is like platforming puzzles, right? Not like... Professor Layton? Not that I have a problem either way, but I'd prefer platforming.

FFCC: MLaK

Ugh no thanks. I don't like the Sims or anything like that where you're acting as a superior being guiding your people. No thanks.

SNES games are primarily $8.00 each. $12.00 ones are only ones that were imported and translated specifically as virtual console titles. N64 is generally $10. Yes, I'd very much agree that those prices are expensive. They never have sales either. I'd love it if they would take on steam's pricing strategy, but I still buy many of the primary games of the past as I can since I'd like to undo my piracy from years ago. I'd imagine anyone would do the same if they worked in the industry.

What? NO SALES? Jesus, the wiistore is awful. Never going to touch that.

I'm going to join the others in recommending Galaxy 1 at least. I wouldn't say go buy both, since I still see them as too similar to one another, but not giving at least one of them a shot would be a shame.

I guess I'll check it out if I can find it cheaps Should be cheap now shouldn't it? It's been out for like 3 years. Also, I don't understand why people are denying that Sunshine was a sequel to 64 and a part of this sub-series. It wasn't the worst game in the world, and as someone else said, 64 has aged really badly so it's not as if it's bringing shame to the family.

Going to break down the next posts in a double post because this is too big.

Wario world the shake dimension (If you are one of those persons who like 2D action and just HAS to have everything u can get in the game with 100% then this is a must-have its so hard to get everything there is and takes ALOT of time.)

Oh, thanks! As long as this isn't like those stupid Wario party games and more like the old GBC games I will be pumped. I loved those.

Monster Hunter tri. (Loooooooooove it is so. freaking. big. And so many options and if you have internet its even better! way better if you ask me. You go out slaying small monsters for bigger weapons, so you can kill bigger monsters to make better even better/larger and there are so many freaking different paths and types of weapons)
With Monster Hunter Tri. Whenever you defeat a boss... it feels really really good! Its not like u kill it in 5 mins or 10... No it takes about 30-40 minutes and can be hard as hell too.

Here's the thing about MH for me, and you specified it as a pro when I see it as a con: time. I have lots of time but I like to use that time to make progress, not spend it all on a single monster that could kill me at the last second and make it all a big waste of time. Yes, I get the gratification of having beaten something excessively large and difficult (whooped Yiazmat) but only sporadically. I guess in a way WKC appeals to me because it allows me to beat up big monsters (unfortunately with little variation) and typically pretty fast. Sure, it's not realistic, but it's a video game. If you want to go realistic then you might as well make the player die after one hit. Or spend 3 months real time in the hospital recovering.

The wii is a bit bare in this area, but Final fantasy: the after years (wiiware- download game) is a decent game, -expect to pay a lot for all the extra download chapters though.

Like... how much? Ugh the more I hear about the Wiistore the more I hate it. Sell me a full game you piece of crap.

Fire emblem: Radiant dawn is a good turn based strategy game-,much better than the pomegranate ds fire emblem game, though the plot is quite ... odd. Should probably play the gamecube game, fire emblem :path of radiance first if you haven't (gamecube game), since its a sequel storyline wise.

I'm not a fan of the FE franchise. I've played a couple of the handheld ones and while I do enjoy some tactical games FE never really appealed to me. Which is kind of a shame because it had some really neat systems (like going in building and picking up items from jars and stuff). Anything these games offer that's different / better than the handhelds?

Rune factory frontier is decent cross between a standard rpg and harvest moon, though if you don't like harvest moon games , I wouldn't recommend it.

Played it on the DS. Is it the same? I'm not a fan of the whole... farming thing. Why do people keep playing games that are just like real life. If I wanted to grow a garden I would do it in real life. I actually think I might. Oh wait, winter.

Budokai tenkaichi 2 is better. Don't get either of them if you don't like dragonball though.

I hate DB[Z], I dislike fighting games. Never in my house. Ever.

You hear wrong. Its not close to as good as the prime games, but its certainly not terrible, though it is below normal nintendo standard (i.e., maybe 80%ish if we were talking review scores)..

I don't listen to review scores, haha. I pay attention to what my friends say and what I see on youtube and it didn't impress me. I really liked the Metroid for the SNES but the series has taken some seriously awful turns (WHY FPS, WHYYYYY) and also the fact that Samus is a female has turned into a gimmick and that pisses me off.

@Kawji: Everything you've said I've covered already so no need to break your post down.

But maaaan am I ever excited about SPM. I am the biggest fan of the Paper Mario franchise (well, I just love Mario RPGs in general). They have so much... pizzazz. They seem to cover everything that conventional RPGs are too afraid to (SMALL NUMBERS? WHAT WILL THE PLAYERS LOOK AT?) and they've got a wonderful sense of humour as well as SO FREAKING MANY SIDEQUESTS. I loves me some sidequest.

Keep 'em coming guys. I should probably state that yes I'm okay with platformers as long as they're decently done. Actually I can't think of any that I didn't... oh wait. Bubsy 3D. Damn you, you sassy cat.

Like... how much? Ugh the more I hear about the Wiistore the more I hate it. Sell me a full game you piece of crap.

I can't check right now, but it was an awful lot, - square enix abuse the pineapple out of the ability to sell dlc over the wii store in every every single game they've released on wiiware. On the upside, I enjoyed most of the chapters, but once I realised how much I've wasted on DLC on SE games, i've pretty much come to a stop from buying any square game on the service because I know they're going to try and get me for every penny. Really hate abuse of DLC by companies. On the upside, they're the only people who do that sort of thing on wiiware. Maybe capcom occasionally.

edit: it cost 3700 wii points in total for every bit of content in the after years

The thing that annoys me most about the wiistore is the complete lack of demos ( they did do a test run a while ago of giving 5 games demos, which were then all in the tops of best selling games for the weeks every single week they had the demos up for download, so its beyond me why they haven't implemented it properly) and the fact that they NEVER EVER seem to budge on sales prices. I think the only time they've EVER lowered anythings price in the wiistore was when sega ran a discount on 10 or so genesis/mega drive games, which was only temporary, but again, pushed the sales of all those games to the top of the charts. Nintendo really needs some tips in how to run an online store well, and the sooner the better.

Anything these games offer that's different / better than the handhelds?

If you didn't like the GBA fire emblem games, you probably won't like the GC/Wii games. That said, if you've only played the DS one, that game was a pomegranatepile and the worst FE game by miles. The only differences that spring to mind is an inbuilt skill system, you find skills as items that you can assign to any character of your choosing, and occasionally some come with them built in when they job up. The skills range from being able to forcibly move units a square or 2 away to improving combat ablities to nullifying any chance of criticals by opponents and so on.
There are also some new units called "laguz" who are essentially humans that can transform into animals, but they pretty much suck for most of the game(s) until you can get a skill to let them stay transformed the whole time. Oh, and you earn bonus exp that you can distribute to any of your units in between levels based on various criteria during levels depending on how quickly you finish, and a couple of other things, including bonus objectives like not killing innocent priests or similar that happen to be on the map, though most of the time this are only vaguely hinted at during cutscenes between levels as to what you have to do.

Played it on the DS. Is it the same? I'm not a fan of the whole... farming thing. Why do people keep playing games that are just like real life. If I wanted to grow a garden I would do it in real life. I actually think I might. Oh wait, winter.

Rune factory is fairly similar to harvest moon in some aspects, but it has a lot more emphasis on the dungeon crawling- you have to go dungeon crawling if you want to upgrade any items, including your farming tools , weapons and armour. After a bit you can actually befriend monsters to do all the farmwork for you, as well as come into the dungeons to help you explore

I don't listen to review scores, haha. I pay attention to what my friends say and what I see on youtube and it didn't impress me. I really liked the Metroid for the SNES but the series has taken some seriously awful turns (WHY FPS, WHYYYYY) and also the fact that Samus is a female has turned into a gimmick and that pisses me off.

That was just me throwing what I'd give it as a number out, its certainly no super metroid, and the linearity of metroid other m sucked, as does some of the storyline logic with regard to what power ups you can use. Zero suit samus is a goddam disgrace ever since she appeared in the 3d games, I can live with her having a personality and being an actual person outside of the suit, but the sexualization is just really unneeded.

But maaaan am I ever excited about SPM. I am the biggest fan of the Paper Mario franchise (well, I just love Mario RPGs in general). They have so much... pizzazz. They seem to cover everything that conventional RPGs are too afraid to (SMALL NUMBERS? WHAT WILL THE PLAYERS LOOK AT?) and they've got a wonderful sense of humour as well as SO FREAKING MANY SIDEQUESTS. I loves me some sidequest.

SPM is more of a 2d platformer than an rpg. It's definetly a paper mario game though, it has the humor and everything that made the first 2 paper mario games great, except the turn based battles. I'm really looking forward to the 3DS papermario game whenever that comes out (Which will be the game that makes me actually go and buy a 3ds)

Loved SPM. Only thing is that I hated the change from turn-based combat to more traditional Mario jump-on-it-till-it-dies gameplay.

Other M was pretty terrible. Awful plot aside, the gameplay felt like it was trying to be a mix of the old 2d awesomeness and the new 3d FPS (which I didn't care for, but I can see why people like it) and was worse than both. Hell, most enemy rooms end up being shoot from one end of the room until your auto-targeting kills the other end. That dodge is just plain broken, and first-person mode is probably the most frustrating thing you could ever deal with. Yeah I know you can shake out of it, but it's still a peach. And why am I using a d-pad for a 3d game?

I don't know which Fire Emblem's you've played, but the gamecube and Wii ones generally have more to offer in their gameplay and such. That said, if you don't enjoy the strategy in strategy games, this probably isn't for you.

Similar comment about Galaxies: they end up being just raw, good 3d platformers with the usual Mario flavor mixed in. If you don't enjoy platforming at it's core, don't bother. If you do, I promise you won't be disappointed.

SPM is more of a 2d platformer than an rpg. It's definetly a paper mario game though, it has the humor and everything that made the first 2 paper mario games great, except the turn based battles. I'm really looking forward to the 3DS papermario game whenever that comes out (Which will be the game that makes me actually go and buy a 3ds)

Haha, I second the Paper Mario 3DS comment. The Paper Mario series (and SMRPG) is the ONLY RPG series I actually play, and although SPM doesn't have the same RPG elements as the other three, it still counts to me. The story is amazing and so are the CHARACTERS. The game, I should also say, has some of the darkest stuff ever in a Mario game and that's all I can say without spoiling it. You'll love it.

Well I will toss out one title that you normally would expect to be haphazard on a console. That would be Pinball Hall of Fame - The Williams Collection, and I've seen various retrogaming sites actually give this title a glowing review. I wasn't sure if it'll be easy enough for you to find or play, but it is one game package that I can recommend for fun. I've seen and played a few of the actual tables on the compilation, and they are still as fun to play on the Wii as the actual tables themselves.

Just to be sure, Z&W is like platforming puzzles, right? Not like... Professor Layton? Not that I have a problem either way, but I'd prefer platforming.

I'd say so to a certain extent, although if I remember correctly, you can't jump. Definitely not a professor Layton layout. You are brought to each stage moving forward per chapter and each time you gain new inventory as you go along. Say you find a stick; you could use it as either a torch or a level as the need arises. Basically, the puzzles are taking the items you have and finding the proper use for them to proceed in the level. However, the controls are a bit gimmicky. In the first stage you grab an umbrella and you have to hold it upright to open it. Still, not too twitchy and I think it is one of the best use of the Wiimote I've seen in the games I've played. It is also far more decision based than action based. You won't be placed into too many situations where timing will be a problem. Order of operations is far more important. My only problem area was one stage that required a sword fight late in the game. The controller sensitivity just wasn't there for that one part of the game which made it a difficult area to pass.

The style is admittingly childish, but if you can get past that, I'd think you'd enjoy it. At only 10$ used, I don't see why not.

Was thinking of linking a video, but it'd spoil the later ones and the earlier tutorial style ones are sorta... Well, let's just say they make it look so childish that it is off-putting.

Also, thanks for this thread, I'll have to give Muramasa a look myself now.

Hack it?

Hack it?

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Best thing you can do with a Wii.

I already said I'm not going to pirate games. Sorry, I don't want to be part of the decline of the industry.

Hacking your wii doesn't in any way mean you are pirating games though. You CAN, but you have the choice.