A Drk or a Hero Post-BB?

I got a lot of different answers when asking my friends which one, Drk or Hero would be better after the BB patch, some say Drk cause he gets buffed up with w.att, another hit for crusher and dark force all the time and some say that Hero because of Brave Slash.
I already got a Drk and I dun really wanna leave it, but if it'll be far behind Hero's dmg then I might
Which one do you think will outdo the other, giving both same equips (except sword which will gain +att exactly like the spear)?

I believe from videos from KMS that Dark Knights and Heroes are about on the same level damagewise, but a Hero will outdo a Dark Knight on a single target thanks to the new Enrage.

Can you explain about what enrage does and what's so good about it?

60% damage increase, but it limits all attacks to just one target.

Can you explain about what enrage does and what's so good about it?

It locks the hero on 1 target and buff the damage on that said target.

Dang, well that makes it a far better bosser right?

Yes, but not sure how it compares to Sacrifice.

Yes, but not sure how it compares to Sacrifice.

So you're saying that with Sacrifice it may equal to Hero's enrage? I never saw a DrK sacrificing a boss so I can't tell :o
Hmm, if Sacrifice is stronger than Crusher on one target, why are these Drk's doing crusher instead?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1urDKVmNgU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A3xQSRdZAM

Sacrifice is one of the highest damaging skills and ignores defense (And I think PDRate. Not sure, don't quote me) so it's possible they would at least be close in damage and not completely left in the dusk.

Sacrifice is one of the highest damaging skills and ignores defense (And I think PDRate. Not sure, don't quote me) so it's possible they would at least be close in damage and not completely left in the dusk.

IF Sacrifice ignores PDRate, which is on monsters 20%(?) and on bosses 30%(?) then it can actually make a good fight against Brave Slash+Enrage, I see, hm one more factor there is to it, idk if this is correct but from the Post-BB korean Skill tables it seems that Heroes don't get a skill like Dragon's Judgement which makes the Drk's crit stronger and with better chances and affects Sacrifice aswell.

From the looks of things above, they're fairly comparable. I'd rather stick with a character I already have which definitely won't get left in the dust over making a brand-new character.

IF Sacrifice ignores PDRate, which is on monsters 20%(?) and on bosses 30%(?) then it can actually make a good fight against Brave Slash+Enrage, I see, hm one more factor there is to it, idk if this is correct but from the Post-BB korean Skill tables it seems that Heroes don't get a skill like Dragon's Judgement which makes the Drk's crit stronger and with better chances and affects Sacrifice aswell.

The only defence in KMS is PDRate. Sacrifice ignores all of PDRate, which goes up to 70% damage reduction at Pink Bean. I've till now only seen one 'smart' video of a DrK, he was training in Lionheart, and using Sacrifice whenever he came 1v1, and crusher at 1v2/3.
I think Heroes>DrK at training (without the Purple Surfboards for sure), and DrK>Heroes at bossing.

That's just what I think.

It locks the hero on 1 target and buff the damage on that said target.

Does that mean an Enraged Hero can't hit do mob control at zakum (for example), because he can't hit the summons?

Not sure if that's a good or bad thing... One of the things I like most about Brandish hitting 3 enemies is that it clears out summons and other random mobs from around bosses (jr and elder wraiths around bigfoot, for example) while continuing to deal the same damage to the boss as if it were alone. Having all those mobs stay alive and possibly aggro'ed (does Enrage prevent Power Guard from hitting them, too?) is bound to be a nuisance.

Does that mean an Enraged Hero can't hit do mob control at zakum (for example), because he can't hit the summons?

You could always turn Enrage off and then back on, of course with a boss that summons as much as Zakum that is bound to get really annoying.

I don't think enrage locks like homing, it just makes all your attacks become single target. The reason why it might seem to work on stationary monsters like zakum because it still picks the mob that's in the backmost layer and within your attack range. Yes, you will lose the ability to mob, but you can always turn off enrage since it doesn't have a cooldown. Might be tedious but at least the option is still there.

it still picks the mob that's in the backmost layer and within your attack range

First mob summoned in the map within your attack range*

Stick with the Dark Knight unless you have a lot of time on your hands to create a new char. Dark Knight pride =D

Stick with the Dark Knight unless you have a lot of time on your hands to create a new char. Dark Knight pride =D

Well I do have time, but I wanna make sure to make the good choice cause I dun wanna have to sell the spear and get a 1h sword+shield which would take ages and the sooner I start the better, and also I wanna see if the Drk will be equal to Hero in damage.

Dark Knights and Heroes will more or less be on the same footing when it comes to either mob damage or single target damage.

Heroes get Brave Slash and Combo for mobs, along with Brave Slash, Combo and Enrage for one target.

Dark Knights get Beholder's Revenge, Berserk, Crusher + Fury for mobbing, and Berserk with Sacrifice for single targets.


More or less both classes will be on equal footing if they have equal equips.

Beholder's Revenge falls into the Single-target lot, not mobbing.

Another slight disadvantage for Sacrifice is it being a single-hit skill, like the old Blast. While not many people should see this problem, it remains to be a problem.

With that in mind, the number is:
690%*160%*(60000/660) + 700%*60/5 = 108763.63% DPM
For Drk.
I haven't confirmed, but from what I can recall, Beholder Revenge does not trigger critical damage. So if you're going to plug Crit in, keep that in mind.

Personally, I don't think Drk is anywhere close to Hero in terms of 1v1 damage.

Brave Slash, Advanced Combo Attack and Enrage all can be raised by 2 levels with Combat Orders; for Drk, only Berserk can. (Although I just learned that lvl 32 Advanced Combo doesn't do anything, lulz)
That's a difference of:
Hero: From 200%*210%*160% = 672% to 200%*214%*164% = 701.92%, a 4.45% damage increase
Drk: From 160% to 162%, 1.25% damage increase.
Supposing Advanced Combo adds 10% dmg every orb, multiply by 10 orbs. I have no idea how Heroes work.

And I'm going to say it now, the only defense being PDRate has nothing to do with Sacrifice having to ignore it. Unless you have proven it somewhere, make it known or post it here.
Nevermind, it does indeed ignore monster's defense, most likely PDRate.