I feel sorry for this guy, but why?

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Why do I feel sorry for this guy? Is it because we are of similar age or that we're both studying to be engineers? Is it the crying or the fact that his life is gone? I mean he's a sex offender and the general consensus is that there should be no remorse for them. I just can't figure it out.

The almost human sympathetic part of me feels bad for him because like he said, his life is over.

The logic half of me says "hey, OB3LISK, stfu, he was about to rape her again, he had a box of condums, this guy has to be stopped."

The logic side wins.

This?
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=31790

I would say because he feels remorse and is showing that he's human too. Not that anything he would have done is right, and he may have been playing a sympathy card, but still, he just seemed like he was confused from what I saw.

He should face the consequences for what he could have done, but even if he's able to truly change, he's going to be marked by this for the rest of his life.

Christopher Hansen states on an NPR broadcast, "We pay retired generals for instance to give us insight on the Gulf War. We pay retired FBI agents to give us insight into serial killers. Perverted Justice allowed us to use its decoys for three of the investigations. It got to the point where Chris Hansen got paid for this, Chris Hansen’s cameraman got paid for this. Chris Hansen’s producer got paid for this."

The analogy draws the connotation that this is a "War on Predators" as Hansen paints predators in the same light as serial killers. The show indicates otherwise as in many episodes, normal people : college students, office workers, and mainly men of the working class are captured by Hansen and the police . The show does an excellent job of showing off the fact that predators do not have to be ostentatiously evil or give off this bad person vibe. The problem is that the show does not question why these supposedly "normal" men have developed these unacceptable sexual compulsions with younger women. In a South Park episode Hansen is characterized as being rude and inconsiderate as he tells Cartman repeatedly to, "sit down" and "have a seat." When Cartman attempts to explain why he doesn't want to be on the show, Hansen ignores him and repeats the same comments. A similar dynamic is revealed in the episodes themselves as Hansen tends to be over-confrontational during the intermediate segment of the show and tries to shame the predators in front of a live camera crew. Predators who try to run away during this segment of the show simply shorten their fifteen minutes of fame as they are arrested by a squad of police man (in certain segments they are carrying riot shields and clubs).

Hansen doesn't attempt to find a reason why these men have such a fascination with younger girls. In addition, the post-interview does not attempt to shed light on the reasons behind their actions. Even though the show recognizes that there are a large amount of predators roaming around, it does not attempt to find a root cause. Instead we are left with the message that there is one more sicko behind bars thanks to Chris Hansen and Dateline.

This?
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=31790

Russt probably meant to type Homo Emphaticus. That was why I misunderstood him too.

You're thinking of Empathy.

Empathetic =/= Emphatic.

Russt probably meant to type Homo Emphaticus. That was why I misunderstood him too. You're thinking of Empathy. Empathetic =/= Emphatic.

Sympathy =/= Empathy.

Cause he sounds so smug when he says, "this isn't fun for me either".

I really feel like it's entrapment to go on the internet, claim to be 13, and then ask for nude pictures of guys. I mean, are thirteen year old girls asking that sort of questions?

Cause he sounds so smug when he says, "this isn't fun for me either".

I really feel like it's entrapment to go on the internet, claim to be 13, and then ask for nude pictures of guys. I mean, are thirteen year old girls asking that sort of questions?

I agree. They are the ones to instigate it, and seem to encourage the thing.

I really feel like it's entrapment to go on the internet, claim to be 13, and then ask for nude pictures of guys. I mean, are thirteen year old girls asking that sort of questions?

It is. Arresting someone because a government (or private?) agent is pretending to be a horny preteen is not legal or ethical.

Are there public stats on how many victims of this show actually get jail time?

A huge majority do.

Check out Perverted Justice's website.

Cause he sounds so smug when he says, "this isn't fun for me either". I really feel like it's entrapment to go on the internet, claim to be 13, and then ask for nude pictures of guys. I mean, are thirteen year old girls asking that sort of questions?

I came up with this, of course.

i think this show is just as disgusting as these people but what i really don't understand is why he sits there and answers all of his questions. i mean, not to defend these people because they're scumbags but common sense would be to just shut it and say you want a lawyer if you know immediately you're in trouble.

Russt probably meant to type Homo Emphaticus. That was why I misunderstood him too.

You're thinking of Empathy.

Empathetic =/= Emphatic.

o.o
That whole video was about the progress of human's mutual empathy in correspondingly progressive social settings.

I really feel bad for this guy. He's only 19 and he had a whole life ahead of him. He made a mistake, and he's going to pay dearly because he is a "pervert" or a "sicko." You know, humans generally start to sexually mature at the age of 12~13. Sure, it is a primitive survival mechanism from back when humans didn't have the same lifespan, but there is still that primitive desire to procreate. Society has defined a "proper" age to have sex, but the natural age for that is much lower. If you look at a girl who's underage, she's hot, and you are attracted does that mean it is wrong? No, it is natural. Your mind and body are just reacting in a primitive matter to sexual stimuli.

If you look at a girl who's underage, she's hot, and you are attracted does that mean it is wrong?

Of course not. I'm sure when we were all in our teens we found the opposite sex attractive at that time. That much is primal, and no one is getting on this kid for finding a younger child attractive. I find Justin Bieber attractive, and there's nothing wrong with that. The problem isn't attraction, it's sex. Had this dude just been attracted to her over the internet and not done anything about it, no one would have cared. It's the act of going to her house with condoms and considering the previous conversation they had over the internet about sex - that's what get people in an uproar. Usually in these conversations by Perverted Justice the decoys will ask the perpetrator to bring a token or gift - usually beer, alcohol, or condoms. Also, in these conversations the perpetrators are given every chance to chicken out and not go. But they still go against all logic and reason and, knowing that it's against the law to do such a thing (if you read their chat logs you'll find many members saying in chat that they know it's wrong), do it anyway.

The basis of reason for why these relationships are not proper is the vast difference in life experience and mental capacity of a person who is above 18 and 12 - 14. Of course, the age of 18 seems a bit arbitrary, but the line must be drawn somewhere. And the reason why the show uses 12 - 14 year old girls is because in the USA the age of consent never goes below 16, so, according to federal law, it's universally wrong.

I don't think this guy should be punished, the natural age for sex is much lower then the age defined by society, if a 13 year old girl felt she wanted to have sex then that should be her descision and she should be able to make that descision , I find it complete BS to say that having sex at age 13 would be traumatizing if you did it willingly most people have seen porn by the age of 10. the only reason its considered wrong is due to religious oppression and other social factors making it taboo/"wrong" over the course of human history.

however, before I get flame for this
I do understand that it CAN be traumatic under many circumstances but alot of it hasn't a thing to do with the act itself but with the stigma attached to it in our modern sexualy repressed culture.

also, I have a problem with arresting people before they commit somthing on a philosophic level, its bordering on thought crime.

I find it complete BS to say that having sex at age 13 would be traumatizing if you did it willingly most people have seen porn by the age of 10. the only reason its considered wrong is due to religious oppression and other social factors making it taboo/"wrong" over the course of human history.

I thought the age of consent was the age at which you are universally deemed capable of taking responsibility for what you choose to do, as well as all of its consequences.
"Sixteen year olds are never wrong."
Heck, I don't know how you can expect 13 year olds to even spell "responsibility", let alone hold it.

The only thing I feel sorry for this guy for is that he can't go into jail and say to his mates:
"feels good man"

Just because most teenagers choose to be idiots dosn't mean the don't understand the implications of their actions.

when I was 13 I was reading philosohpy and understood very well the ramifications of my actions.

Please excuse all the typos, I've been up for far too long and I'm just about to pass out.

I'll reply if anyone has somthing to say when I wake up.

I thought the age of consent was the age at which you are universally deemed capable of taking responsibility for what you choose to do, as well as all of its consequences.
"Sixteen year olds are never wrong."
Heck, I don't know how you can expect 13 year olds to even spell "responsibility", let alone hold it.

The only thing I feel sorry for this guy for is that he can't go into jail and say to his mates:
"feels good man"

Perhaps this is just me, but looking back at my childhood I don't think my ability to be responsible ever improved - since the day I remember myself, I always knew that I can count on myself to take all the possible dangers and consequences into account before performing an action.
Perhaps this is why I grew into not being able to trust anyone else with something that needs to be done, because since I was 6 years old and up until today I always observed the other kids in kindergarten\school and had got the impression of "Look at those idiots, acting impulsively without thinking 1 second ahead. I must never trust them with anything that is related to me".

Also, I knew how to spell responsibility when I was 13 (8th grade), and English is not even my mother tongue (although you were probably referring to the metaphorical meaning of "cant spell responsibility", but whatever).