McCain picks Sarah Palin

[COLOR="Teal"]Here's another "Fun Fact"..... Her vagina is a hot spot for Eskimos.


Edit: No wonder he picked her ... Palin's husband, Todd Palin,[71] works for the energy corporation BP at an oil field on Alaska's North Slope (off wikipedia)

ITS ALL ABOUT THE OIL. [/COLOR]

Is that all you Dems have? Yelling "OIL OIL OIL!!"

Its obviously YOU people who are obsessed about it

Yo, Katie & P1r4tes, try not to start stuff, alrighty?

[COLOR="Navy"]I'm not starting anything.... I made a comment.

Also, I never stated if I was for/against McCain, so P1r4tes don't assume anything. Republicans make "oil comments" all the time.

Edit: Also, I read about her daughter and this whole pregnancy and how Palin faked it. It would seem pretty low for her to fake such a thing. I can't imagine her doing it.[/COLOR]

Easy to see why he picked her.

1. Evangelical roots
2. Woman (ex-HRC supporters, anyone?)
3. Young (opposite of McCain)

Most undecided voters left are not from Hillary, they are the same undecided voters from every election.

A smarter move would be to pick somoene because of their policies and history, not because they have a vagina.

Now that Obama has picked an old white man, McCain's choice of a young woman definitely will draw HRC supporters. In an ideal world, everyone would be voting because of policies. But in a nation where 40% of the people think the Republicans are still in control of Congress, expect issues to play a second-hand role to "change" and "celebrity." (not to mention "yes we can" and "hope")

Unless they plan on assassinating McCain and making Palin the new president I don't think they will vote outside their party, especially for such an unknown.

But think about it from a non-issues-oriented HRC supporter's point of view- their candidate was defeated in an extremely close election, and besides the irregularity of the convention appearance, the two camps haven't exactly been at peace (it's rather like the awkward embrace between McCain and Bush in 2000 after the primaries). And then for VP, Obama picks an old white man (remember, we're not talking about issues or experience- this is a caricature of Biden).

I think it's hilarious people would criticize one side but not the other. They're both doing the same thing; playing a game.

QFT.

anti-homosexual rights. anti-choice. doesn't give a dghdg about global warming.
so what does she support? guns.

overall. sarah palin = worse choice ever.

O noes, this coming from a Democrat (or left-leaning independent) that will vote for Obama anyways!

I just saw something that reaffirmed why I am not voting for Obama

He was in a sports bar, doing some PR and hanging with regular people giving face time. He started talking to them about middle-class America and then he did something that just disgusts me

He picked up a chicken finger, dipped it in BBQ sauce then bit it. Then what did he do? HE DOUBLE DIPPED!

Dont vote for Obama, he a double dipper

Sarah Palin is a homophobic, pro-life psycho.

She's been involved in two scandals already, and she's only been in office for a year and a half as govenor. Before that she was on the city council and served in the PTA. Yeah dude, really qualified. Also, there's always this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk20IySDwhw

And theres a lot of other things you can find out by just going to google/wiki and just putting in her name.

Started off as a good move by McCain, ended up being the worst move he could have made. It backfired completely.

And to those who plan to vote for McCain only because of Palin apparently have no brains. Why would you want to be left with this wingnut of a woman once McCain croaks? He's old as the hell. I doubt that he'd last 4 years in office.

I dont like Obama either but what can you do. It just seems to me like this election is just because of controversy. I mean seriously. First a woman candidate. Then a half black one. Then a female VP running mate.

I just think they're all after who can create the most controversy and get the most publicity.

I just dont want another republican in office. It's getting old, quickly.

The issue over "what the VP does every day" is a non issue. There isn't much defined by the job itself as to what they do. In reality, their only defined function is President of the Senate. Modern presidents have given the VP an elaborated role in a position like his other cabinet members, but that is not a legally defined duty. Truth be told, I would say that the VP position, like the President's position, is one which requires learning-by-doing, and prior "experience" is basically not involved in reality.

In truth, VP is just an in-case-of-emergency-break-glass president. Their real function is to be president if the commander in chief is unable to perform their duties. Basically, it's a buffer between the President in the executive branch and the Speaker of the House in the legislative.

Sarah Palin is a homophobic, pro-life psycho.

This is true of all mainstream Republicans. It is also apparently true of roughly half of the voting populous.

Yes, the general population of the United States IS that bigoted.

Then a female VP running mate.

Was done before by the Dems in the '80s. Not a big deal, even by the cloaked bigot nature of the media (that is to say, making a big deal about having a woman or Black candidate is counterproductive to the idea of equality). Even so, I did notice media outlets qualifying it by saying "first woman VP on ticket by REPUBLICANS"... nice touch, jackasses.

I just dont want another republican in office. It's getting old, quickly.

I'm quite sure that it would get old just as easily with a Democrat in there. It's a broken system, but sadly, this particular system is basically impossible to break as far as the presidential election is concerned. You might be able to elect Independents, Greens, Libertarians, etc., on a local level, on a state level, even into Congress, but an offshoot candidate is lucky to break 10% popular vote, and like I said before (actually, might have been a different thread now that I think about it...), a portion of the popular vote won't get you a single vote in the electoral college unless you're able to win a state, and 0 is definitely a lot less than 270.

ps

She's been involved in two scandals already

I think it's almost impossible to be in politics and not be involved in some sort of scandal.

She stilll could have done research instead of getting on national television and made herself look like a complete fool. It's not that hard to find what a vice president does. Why does she need to publicly admit she's an idiot?

Not all republicans believe as she does. Some do, some dont. However, there are a lot of liberal and democratic votes out there. The country is changing a lot and people who werent supportive of gays and those who werent pro-choice have accepted it. I understand there are a lot who haven't accepted it, but there are A LOT that has.

I don't think it'd get old having a democrat in the office. Especially after dealing with nutjob Bush. People know him as a republican and they see what he's done. People may sit and think that if he's a republican and he believes this way, maybe McCain will also. Which, I don't fully believe, but I don't think McCain would change it much at all.

As far as Palin's scandals. Yes, people get involved in them. However, with her being so inexperienced, it's hard not to point them out. She is involved in a scandal about her ex brother-in-law being fired from his job. Not to mention the stuff that came out about her latest child. Given, it was proven false.

McCain harped on how he was so much more experienced than Obama and he makes a move like this. It's not a wise choice at all.

That makes no sense at all. Are you saying you were planning on voting Republican before McCain chose this woman? Are you saying this action made you decide to jump across to the far left? Do you realize that all of the qualities about this woman which might be seen as negative also apply to McCain (exceptions being: she has a vagina, he does not; she is young and likely in good health, he is old and is known to have suffered from cancer many times over)?

No, I'm saying I dislike both of the major candidates running for president, and their choices of VPs did not do anything to improve my opinion of either of them. I had no plans to vote any particular way; I'm registered as an independent. The Green party is not "the far left." It is less liberal than the Democratic party on a lot of issues.

Not surprising, I would think. Some people might not have cared enough to contribute, but with her achieving national recognition, more people surely came to the page, which would, in turn, bring more contributors. So long as things aren't REMOVED, I don't think it's a problem, but even if it is, would you really be upset with an entire presidential campaign because a lone person decided to make sure their favored side gets a shine of positive light?


Protip: being a congressman won't prepare a person to be president.
Protip#2: being a governor won't even do that much better of a job at preparing either.

Saying "oh boo hoo they don't have experience", you might as well be thinking that presidents should be president for life. The only job which gives them the required experience is the job itself. You can't say "they don't have enough experience" because NO ONE has enough experience going into a first term.

This thread is tl;dr, but I would like to clarify that the wikipedia page was edited before she was announced as the VP pick (as in before anyone knew who the heck she was). The circumstantial evidence seemed to point to someone very close to her doing the editing so that people who looked her up after she was announced as the pick would get a better first impression of her. I realize that this is probably something that people do all the time (capitol hill is blocked from editing wikipedia), but I just wanted to tell all y'all about it because I thought it was interesting.

I also agree with you for the most part about experience, but I think you should play it safe with a VP pick. The VP can become president without being elected, so it seems to me that you should get someone "safe," someone who knows the issues and whose judgment you trust. But mainly my problem with Sarah Palin is that there's no way she'd be the pick if she weren't a woman.

The VP can become president without being elected

Except that VPs are elected alongside their president. If a person doesn't like the idea of a certain person falling into the position of Commander in Chief by their position as VP, then that person can show their opinion by voting for another person for president. But that aside, a presidential candidate is not going to pick someone who has drastically different stances on the issues. In reality, a VP taking position as president would run things in basically the same way regardless. It's not like McCain will get elected, die, then Palin will go apepumpernickel and do things McCain never would. If Palin finds herself filling McCain's theoretical shoes, her actions as president would not vary much (if at all) from what McCain's own actions would be. And the same can be said with "Obama" and "Biden" in place of "McCain" and "Palin" respectively.

And you really can't get mad at McCain for playing the politics game by picking a woman. Obama did the very same thing by picking a person with more "experience".

did anyone see the pictures that came out a few hours ago of Bristol under-aged drinking? google it.

^ isn't that her 17 year old daughter who is pregnant? lol

Doubt that will hurt Palin though, the Bush daughters weren't exactly angels either

did anyone see the pictures that came out a few hours ago of Bristol under-aged drinking? google it.

You are talking about all this crap about her family, yet your User ID and everything is plastered with Britney Spears. Hypocricy much? Shes the poster girl for having children out of wed-lock, underage and excessive drinking, and overall acting kike an idiot

Yea, Britney Spears isnt running for VP, but you cant look down at someone for something, then admire another person who does the exact same things, if not worse

[COLOR="Navy"]I don't think they were talking down about it, I think it was merely a statement to see if anyone had heard about it, that's all. I don't think children should be involved in politics at all. Even thou this girl is 17, she's still a minor and should have her privacy.
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You are talking about all this crap about her family, yet your User ID and everything is plastered with Britney Spears. Hypocricy much? Shes the poster girl for having children out of wed-lock, underage and excessive drinking, and overall acting kike an idiot

Yea, Britney Spears isnt running for VP, but you cant look down at someone for something, then admire another person who does the exact same things, if not worse

okay. well as xkatiie stated, i was asking if anyone heard about it. i wasn't saying anything bad about this girl? she should have her privacy, but this is different. sarah palin does not agree on these things that are happening -- yet her kids do this. she should pay more attention to her kids then to governing a state yet being a vice president. now, please tell me how i am talking crap? if my "words" came across the wrong way to you -- then i apologize.

to this britney spears thing..what in the world does that have to do with politics? an avatar and a signature is showing my appreciation towards her MUSIC. i never once said i liked any bit of her behavior.
yes, i said sarah palin should pay more attention to her children, yet britney hasn't..but sarah palin has five kids and is 4[4], and is more mature and has more experience in parenting.

there is nothing of britney spears underaged drinking. her excessive drinking wasn't her choice. she had a mental illness from being drugged.
if she wants to act like an idiot, she can! she is a singer, not someone who people are expecting to live up to expections.

please, i posted a question and i end up arguing with you.

^ isn't that her 17 year old daughter who is pregnant? lol

Doubt that will hurt Palin though, the Bush daughters weren't exactly angels either

doubt that will hurt palin? Her pregnant daughter drinking.......

How will that not hurt palin?

doubt that will hurt palin? Her pregnant daughter drinking.......

How will that not hurt palin?

It isn't confirmed that she was pregnant when the pictures were taken, have you even seen them?
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/galler...palin-pic/
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/galler...-underage/

and will people not support Palin now cause her daughter is a dumbass? doubt it

1. Did Cheney's lesbian daughters attract much attention?
2. Since when is pro-life "bigoted"? Sure, those "life starts at conception" supporters are annoying. But so are those who insist that a viable baby has no rights.

did anyone see the pictures that came out a few hours ago of Bristol under-aged drinking? google it.

I saw those on a certain *chan. What a person's daughter does is not necessarily indicative of anything though. After all, her daughter also got pregnant underage, out of wedlock. Does this mean the VP candidate herself is guilty of getting pregnant underage and out of wedlock? All it means is that her child is a bad egg. Also: I'd like to reiterate the things already said about Bush and Cheney's daughters.

Since when is pro-life "bigoted"?

Is this in response to something I said? I think I was the only one who ever used the word "bigot". I think what I was probably saying was in relation to their desire to limit homosexuality as being bigoted and maybe my words got mixed up as I was transcribing my train of thought or the words were merely placed in a way which could be misunderstood. Being antiabortion is not "bigoted", but people who are antiabortion are, in my experience, often bigots in other departments.

ps yeah, I totally use the term "antiabortion" in place of "prolife", because saying one side is "prolife" implies that the other is "antilife" and that is simply offensive to consider.