for the homosexuals.

I was gong to post some lesbian celebrities I wished were straight but there are very little lesbians out there, only bis...

Portia de Rossi?

Portia de Rossi?

"And you had a boyfriend in Los Angeles?
I actually married him, for a green card. But I didn’t get my green card through him—I couldn’t do it at the end. We had a really great, caring relationship; it just obviously wasn’t right for me."
"Portia heart & soul" Advocate.com http://www.advocate.com/article.aspx?id=21677

Maybe my definition of homosexuality is too narrow. If you've had sex with someone whose sex you're not attracted to normally, you're a bisexual. That's how I define it :/

Maybe my definition of homosexuality is too narrow. If you've had sex with someone whose sex you're not attracted to normally, you're a bisexual. That's how I define it :/

Yeah that is a very limiting definition...

If you've had sex with someone whose sex you're not attracted to normally, you're a bisexual. That's how I define it :/

A bisexual is equally attracted to both genders.
What you've described is just incidental or circumstantial sexuality.
Sexual orientation is specific interest in the gender in question, not based on who you actually do it with.
You can have all the hetero sex in the world but it doesn't actually make you hetero if you're lusting after guys the whole time and just going through the motions.
Likewise being curious and fooling around with the same gender once to see what it's like, or fooling around with the same gender because opportunity presents itself and you want to get off, but aren't actually attracted to the gender, doesn't make you gay.

People today are far too hung up on labels they don't fully understand and trying to cram people into boxes. People have a hard enough time understanding themselves without trying to live up to other peoples' mistaken expectations on what they should be based on their own limited understanding of how things work.

Applauding Queen Eos' posts. I'm gay and I get teased for finding out last year that Anderson Cooper's gay, and this thread almost gets fully derailed because heteros have no idea? Good lord.

OT: MICHAEL. CERA. oo bby yes please.

Applauding Queen Eos' posts. I'm gay and I get teased for finding out last year that Anderson Cooper's gay, and this thread almost gets fully derailed because heteros have no idea? Good lord.

You calling me hetero? And the other one who was asking if Mr. Cooper was actually gay is a girl. So I had a full laugh, thank you!

OT: MICHAEL. CERA. oo bby yes please.

His boyish charm or something? Because he doesn't match what you said in another thread you liked in men.

I'd also like to see Taylor Lautner be gay.
:3

Don't derail guys

Ot: I'd like ady puterA to be gay too. He's a malay actor. Google him up

A bisexual is equally attracted to both genders.
What you've described is just incidental or circumstantial sexuality.
Sexual orientation is specific interest in the gender in question, not based on who you actually do it with.
You can have all the hetero sex in the world but it doesn't actually make you hetero if you're lusting after guys the whole time and just going through the motions.
Likewise being curious and fooling around with the same gender once to see what it's like, or fooling around with the same gender because opportunity presents itself and you want to get off, but aren't actually attracted to the gender, doesn't make you gay.

People today are far too hung up on labels they don't fully understand and trying to cram people into boxes. People have a hard enough time understanding themselves without trying to live up to other peoples' mistaken expectations on what they should be based on their own limited understanding of how things work.

So if you're sleeping with other men/women while with someone but you were just doing it to "get off," you're not cheating, correct? Well in that case I'm a bisexual. I would never sleep with a man, but I am genuinely interested. In Japan though, gay doesn't think you, and neither do gays.

Yeah i could only think of one obscure actor who none of you would know :/

So if you're sleeping with other men/women while with someone but you were just doing it to "get off," you're not cheating, correct?

I don't see how you've arrived at any conclusions regarding "cheating" based on what I've said since it has no relation to anything being or having been discussed.
If cheating is the act of having sex with someone other than your partner, without your partners consent, then any form of sex is cheating whether it's preferencial or circumstantial because by it's nature it's the specific, voluntary, act that's cheating, not the reasoning or motivation behind it.

I don't see how you've arrived at any conclusions regarding "cheating" based on what I've said since it has no relation to anything being or having been discussed.
If cheating is the act of having sex with someone other than your partner, without your partners consent, then any form of sex is cheating whether it's preferential or circumstantial because by it's nature it's the specific, voluntary, act that's cheating, not the reasoning or motivation behind it.

So murder might be a better example. You get a different sentence based on motivation and whether it was preplanned (preferential) or a crime of passion (circumstantial). In the court of law, there is solid evidence on what happened and what led up to it. Usually a full jury decides on the verdict.
Now take bi/homosexuality allegation. Let's assume you're not bisexual or homosexual with an encounter with the same sex. A court would look at what happened (sex) and what led up to it. The problem is the only person who can testify is the alleged person, plus anyone else was present who may be willing to corroborate with him. A jury has to decide on a bunch of statements about a "chance encounter" and a solid fact that the person has had sex with someone their own sex. Is it rational to trust the statements of friends and acquaintances of the alleged and say that he or she isn't a bi/homosexual? The issue becomes a matter of "do you trust the person" and a jury (us) wouldn't have an opinion either way, leaving us with the facts. Now is it fair for a bystander to claim he or she is a bi/homosexual?

You calling me hetero? And the other one who was asking if Mr. Cooper was actually gay is a girl. So I had a full laugh, thank you!

His boyish charm or something? Because he doesn't match what you said in another thread you liked in men.

> Implying girls can't be hetero

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And Cera: I think you nailed it with his "boyish charm." I don't know what it is, but it falls into that other category I mentioned in that thread, the one where "every now and then something completely different piques my interest."

So murder might be a better example. You get a different sentence based on motivation and whether it was preplanned (preferential) or a crime of passion (circumstantial). In the court of law, there is solid evidence on what happened and what led up to it. Usually a full jury decides on the verdict.
Now take bi/homosexuality allegation. Let's assume you're not bisexual or homosexual with an encounter with the same sex. A court would look at what happened (sex) and what led up to it. The problem is the only person who can testify is the alleged person, plus anyone else was present who may be willing to corroborate with him. A jury has to decide on a bunch of statements about a "chance encounter" and a solid fact that the person has had sex with someone their own sex. Is it rational to trust the statements of friends and acquaintances of the alleged and say that he or she isn't a bi/homosexual? The issue becomes a matter of "do you trust the person" and a jury (us) wouldn't have an opinion either way, leaving us with the facts. Now is it fair for a bystander to claim he or she is a bi/homosexual?

Are you trying to make some sort of point? If so, you're failing because nothing you've said has any relation to anything being discussed and you've just randomly created an analogy that has no context to the current conversation.
A bystander does not determine your sexuality. It's something intrinsic to you. No one can else has any way to measure what you feel. All that can be said by an observer is whether or not you've been seen engaging in hetero or homo sexual intercourse and that is not indicative of preference, merely of observed circumstance.

If you want to discuss whatever point you're trying to make, create your own thread for it.

which celeb would you wish were gay?

Are you trying to make some sort of point? If so, you're failing because nothing you've said has any relation to anything being discussed and you've just randomly created an analogy that has no context to the current conversation.
A bystander does not determine your sexuality. It's something intrinsic to you. No one can else has any way to measure what you feel. All that can be said by an observer is whether or not you've been seen engaging in hetero or homo sexual intercourse and that is not indicative of preference, merely of observed circumstance.

If you want to discuss whatever point you're trying to make, create your own thread for it.

The original premise of the thread was "which celeb would you wish were gay?" If what you said is true, no one can tell who's gay or not. Hence the thread is muted. I personally tries to give life to it by defining a one-strike rule but that was thrown out so really we're back to speculation and possible lies. I have plenty of men who I'm willing to bet my life are closeted (lots of em in Japan) but I couldn't make a judgement (a potentially life altering judgement) based on rumors. So by clearing up the definition of being homo/bisexual, we can move on.

I guess sexuality is not a coffusing issue in Japan. Unless you're Mitsuhiro Oikawa. Flamboyantly gay yet married with children. Your call.

The original premise of the thread was "which celeb would you wish were gay?" If what you said is true, no one can tell who's gay or not.

Your point is irrelevant.

If Person A finds person B attractive and wants them to be gay it's immaterial whether or not person B already is gay. The thread's topic is people you want to be gay.

Taylor Lautner for example as someone said. Who knows if he's gay? Who cares? They want a chance at him whether he is or isn't and the point is they desire him to be receptive to that desire.
Thread back on topic now.

The original premise of the thread was "which celeb would you wish were gay?" If what you said is true, no one can tell who's gay or not. Hence the thread is muted. I personally tries to give life to it by defining a one-strike rule but that was thrown out so really we're back to speculation and possible lies. I have plenty of men who I'm willing to bet my life are closeted (lots of em in Japan) but I couldn't make a judgement (a potentially life altering judgement) based on rumors. So by clearing up the definition of being homo/bisexual, we can move on.

I guess sexuality is not a coffusing issue in Japan. Unless you're Mitsuhiro Oikawa. Flamboyantly gay yet married with children. Your call.

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Just got back from seeing The Kids Are All Right (fantastic movie), and MUST ADD ONE TO THE LIST:

Josh Hutcherson <3

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this dude is not bad at all. hes from goodluck charlie.

this dude is not bad at all. hes from goodluck charlie.

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