General Grieves Is the Model of a Modern Major General
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[video=youtube;SoiQw7kPqf8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoiQw7kPqf8&feature=related[/video]

Feels more like a College education than anything else.
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#2
Tarantara!
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Gilbert + Sullivan + Lucas. What a melange of fabulous.
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There was so much drama over who got to play what role for this play in my High School. The Pirates of Penzance generated so much controversy that it ended up being one of the most popular plays in the school. If not for the amount of trash-talking from the substitutes in the play, some people breaking down from the emotional stress, and everyone criticizing each others performance every step of the way. It was fun to watch.
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Please tell me some lisp-babbling diva gay did not play the Major General.
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you couldnt even spell Grievous right swerve ol' boy?

and who're Gilbert and Sullivan? honestly the only place ive heard of them was from a scene in mass effect 2.
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In our eighth grade class, there were only thirteen boys and twenty-one girls. Since the second act called for policemen, a handful of the girls had to change costumes during the intermission and cross-dress for the second half of the play. The boy I had a crush on at the time was chosen to play the role of the Sergeant.

Mmm cross-dressing.

Funny enough, the boy chosen to play the Major General was a bit dumb, but good-looking. Not at all who I would have picked to sing that particular song.
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Actually the major general was played by a fairly pot-bellied kid who definitely played the part very well. The controversy was over the female lead as one girl had the vocals but lacked the appearance and the other girl was extremely pretty but wasn't as good when it came down to vocals. Toss in the fact that both of them were my friends and you have some very interesting dialogue that I got to listen to as they alternated on different play dates. Also the pirate lead was a kid who just smoked pot outside the school and knew the play by heart so he auditioned for the role and got it. The drama kids were furious. Especially the guy who usually plays the male lead. It was a fantastic play. It was just that there was a lot of drama surrounding it because a bunch of people wanted to be in it who weren't normally in the drama club.
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TøbiasBlack Wrote:you couldnt even spell Grievous right swerve ol' boy?

Sorry. I'm tired. I swore that I spelled it correctly before I hit the submit button. :<

Throws Wrote:Funny enough, the boy chosen to play the Major General was a bit dumb, but good-looking. Not at all who I would have picked to sing that particular song.

The irony is that the Major General only knows more than a novice in a nunnery. Despite his rich overall education in a myriad topics, he really knows nothing about being a General. I thought that it was comparative of how the modern college system is developed to give us a "well-balanced" education rather than explicitly focusing on a specific skill set or knowledge base often times making students feel intimidated when it comes to applying for the job market.
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Swerve Wrote:Actually the major general was played by a fairly pot-bellied kid who definitely played the part very well. The controversy was over the female lead as one girl had the vocals but lacked the appearance and the other girl was extremely pretty but wasn't as good when it came down to vocals. Toss in the fact that both of them were my friends and you have some very interesting dialogue that I got to listen to as they alternated on different play dates. Also the pirate lead was a kid who just smoked pot outside the school and knew the play by heart so he auditioned for the role and got it. The drama kids were furious. Especially the guy who usually plays the male lead. It was a fantastic play. It was just that there was a lot of drama surrounding it because a bunch of people wanted to be in it who weren't normally in the drama club.

Gotta love when this pomegranate happens. Orville Redenbacher was made for such occassions.
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Swerve Wrote:Sorry. I'm tired. I swore that I spelled it correctly before I hit the submit button. :<

it happens bro just busting balls. =P
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TøbiasBlack Wrote:you couldnt even spell Grievous right swerve ol' boy?

and who're Gilbert and Sullivan? honestly the only place ive heard of them was from a scene in mass effect 2.

For your convenience. The "Major-General's Song" in this thread is from The Pirates of Penzance; and that scene from Mass Effect 2 you're referring to parodies this song with the "Scientist Salarian Song". Enjoy the lyrics for that, while we're at it.

I am the very model of a scientist Salarian... I've studied species turian, asari and batarian.
I'm quite good at genetics (as a subset of biology) Because I am an expert (which I know is a tautology)
My xenosience studies range from urban to agrarian, I am the very model of a scientist salarian~
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FrozNlite Wrote:Gilbert + Sullivan + Lucas. What a melange of fabulous.

The overal concept was wonderful. General Grievous was supposed to the model of a modern general. The dude could yield four-five lightsabers at a time. If you watched the Clone War Saga on Cartoon Network, he could spin himself like a top and virtually be invincible with his outer rim being pure energy from the spinning lightsabers that couldn't be stopped. The fight with Obi-wan had to be the most disappointing fight scene for me in the movie. The sad part was that it was a good scene. It just wasn't a quarter of what I expected when I walked into the movie theater. Then again I should have realized that the cartoon adaptation would have gotten away with more surrealism and pure action than what I could have expected from a human actor playing Obi Wan.
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Swerve Wrote:The overal concept was wonderful. General Grievous was supposed to the model of a modern general. The dude could yield four-five lightsabers at a time. If you watched the Clone War Saga on Cartoon Network, he could spin himself like a top and virtually be invincible with his outer rim being pure energy from the spinning lightsabers that couldn't be stopped. The fight with Obi-wan had to be the most disappointing fight scene for me in the movie. The sad part was that it was a good scene. It just wasn't a quarter of what I expected when I walked into the movie theater. Then again I should have realized that the cartoon adaptation would have gotten away with more surrealism and pure action than what I could have expected from a human actor playing Obi Wan.

Cartoons allow a greater degree for a character to defy human limits and make physics their bi'tch without having to dish out money on special effects. Also, I enjoyed the video a lot.
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Swerve Wrote:The overal concept was wonderful. General Grievous was supposed to the model of a modern general. The dude could yield four-five lightsabers at a time. If you watched the Clone War Saga on Cartoon Network, he could spin himself like a top and virtually be invincible with his outer rim being pure energy from the spinning lightsabers that couldn't be stopped. The fight with Obi-wan had to be the most disappointing fight scene for me in the movie. The sad part was that it was a good scene. It just wasn't a quarter of what I expected when I walked into the movie theater. Then again I should have realized that the cartoon adaptation would have gotten away with more surrealism and pure action than what I could have expected from a human actor playing Obi Wan.

you also have to remember that the whole point to the prequel-ogy was basically the set-up to how the empire was formed and how anakin fell from being the chosen one to the dark-side of the force, more or less. it wasnt a bad movie and ill admit the fight between the two of them was a let down, and given what CGI was available couldve been more interesting, but you figure that was a tiny segment in the whole of the clone wars movie so it had to be trimmed a bit to fit in room for other things.
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I was literally jumping up and down when he told Obi-Wan, "I've been trained in the Jedi Arts by Count Dooku." I was thinking to myself, this is going to be so awesome. Multi-light saber effect + possibility of using the force? Then within a minute Obi-Wan already cuts off 1/2 of his hands and a died a bit on the inside. I literally stared at the screen hoping his plastic hands would regenerate or something. I think my dad said that he saw me tearing.

Off to bed. Will check on this thread tomorrow.
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#17
Completely agree with Swerve's comments regarding the Episode III Obi-Wan v. Grievous battle. It was absolutely anticlimactic, and left me with less of a soft spot for the film as opposed to others in the series.

Rather than flesh out my own reactions, I'll simply state the most important by (a) echoing Swerve's distaste at Obi-Wan's unnatural ability to cut off half of the General's arms within a minute, when the General was capable of taking down multiple Jedi single-handedly (no pun intended), and (b) the fact that Grievous dies by the end of it, with what, a blaster shot to the chest? After all of his appendages are gone, iirc? What the hell is that.

Ditto again to Swerve with The Clone Wars series on Cartoon Network. Some of the best 5 minute action clips I've seen in my life, most favorably Mace Windu's on the dusty battlefield about a quarter way through the series.
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FrozNlite Wrote:Completely agree with Swerve's comments regarding the Episode III Obi-Wan v. Grievous battle. It was absolutely anticlimactic, and left me with less of a soft spot for the film as opposed to others in the series.

Rather than flesh out my own reactions, I'll simply state the most important by (a) echoing Swerve's distaste at Obi-Wan's unnatural ability to cut off half of the General's arms within a minute, when the General was capable of taking down multiple Jedi single-handedly (no pun intended), and (b) the fact that Grievous dies by the end of it, with what, a blaster shot to the chest? After all of his appendages are gone, iirc? What the hell is that.

Ditto again to Swerve with The Clone Wars series on Cartoon Network. Some of the best 5 minute action clips I've seen in my life, most favorably Mace Windu's on the dusty battlefield about a quarter way through the series.

on the clone wars animated series (not that CGI BS, the cartoon style), seeing that pale chick kick royal ass was awesome, and getting to see yoda in action at any time is great. but one thing i never got fully was how/why grievous became a cyborg, and why he was trained in the force. okay, so he was a merc/bounty hunter that pissed off the wrong people, then got cybernetic implants for some reason, so now he only has a few bits and scraps of his former living self. okay, we get he has awesome ability and talent with the sword, and its always awesome seeing a villain kill a good guy then steal their weapon for his own usage.

all in all grievous was a very interesting character. but on the topic of let downs: Dooku. okay, he stands up to Yoda, Obi-wan, AND anakin in the 2nd movie, and yet dies so damned easily in the third? you mean to tell me that im supposed to believe that Dooku forgot how to use force push while Anakin was holding the sabers near his neck and LOOKING AWAY AT THE CHANCELOR/EMPEROR? yeah yeah, it's for the sake of the plot, but still. and what about that Darth whatshisface Palpatine mentions to Anakin, was Palpatine his former pupil or something?
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TøbiasBlack Wrote:all in all grievous was a very interesting character. but on the topic of let downs: Dooku. okay, he stands up to Yoda, Obi-wan, AND anakin in the 2nd movie, and yet dies so damned easily in the third? you mean to tell me that im supposed to believe that Dooku forgot how to use force push while Anakin was holding the sabers near his neck and LOOKING AWAY AT THE CHANCELOR/EMPEROR? yeah yeah, it's for the sake of the plot, but still. and what about that Darth whatshisface Palpatine mentions to Anakin, was Palpatine his former pupil or something?

According to Wookieepedia, Count Dooku practiced Form II: Makashi which had flowing graceful movements that conserved energy and waited for critical hits. He used this style in conjunction with Dun Moch a Sith technique used to mock the opponent in order to weaken them psychologically and look for openings to attack. In the battle against Anakin, Dooku made a mistake in using Dun Moch against Anakin because he just pissed him off and caused him to go berserk. The fact that Anakin practiced the offensive lightsaberart of Form V: Shien / Djem that involved relentlessly attacking the enemy didn't help Count Dooku in the slightest as he had to siphon extra energy in order to repel such attacks using Form II which is not what the formation was intended for when it came to a lightsaber fight. Even though Dooku knew other styles, he probably didn't expect Anakin to attack him so ferociously and was thus unable to consciously change forms in time as he was too comfortable relying on Form II in the past battles. It was Count Dooku who found himself psychologically overwhelmed and physically overpowered before the Emperor goaded Anakin into killing Dooku. Dooku had been set-up the entire time by Emperor Palpatine. Also, Dooku was fighting both Obi-wan and Anakin at the same time, which was what his Form II excelled at in comparison to other forms. The only other form that comes close would be Form VII that is practiced by Darth Maul in the first movie. But even then this is subverted as Darth Maul used a specially made double-bladed lightsaber that enabled him to use VII against multiple opponents. Grievous was trained in all seven forms and and had his droids also trained in all seven forms as well yet they were all killed in the first thirty seconds of the movie. Grievous was also up against only Obi-wan and still got his ass kicked despite having lost everything, being a billion dollar investment, and having supposedly originally been a tribe that only knew how to live by fighting to the death. Grievous was honestly such a waste of potential.
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#20
^ Agreed. Grievous should've been more than capable, with 4 arms and 4 lightsabers, of maintaining an effective assault while holding an impenetrable defense against a single foe with a single lightsaber.
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