Do Self Sharp Eyes and Thorns stack?

Just a curious question - If I went out and got myself a self sharp eye glove (decent sharp eyes), would it stack with my Thorns buff? As of right now, I'm assuming they don't stack, since regular Sharp Eyes doesn't stack with Thorns. In which case, would it be better to aim at "All Stats + X%" on gloves for a Dual Blader?

The chance doesn't stack, but the damage does.

I thought regular Sharp eyes and Thorns stacked. I'm hearing that it does and that is doesn't. Which is it? -_-

Decent sharp eyes is just SE20 for yourself. It will work the same way regular SE20 does. I don't know the answer to the question, though.

The chance doesn't stack, but the damage does.

The damage doesn't stack, thorns' +250% damage overrides the critical damage bonus from decent sharp eyes.

I thought regular Sharp eyes and Thorns stacked. I'm hearing that it does and that is doesn't. Which is it? -_-

They don't stack, the bonus effect you get is based on the greater effect, and the lower effect is ignored. Both icons stay because this is different depending on the class. For example, a hero would get +15% critical chance from SE and +35% chance from thorns, so with both icons up, only thorns takes effect for the critical chance bonus. However, the hero gets +140% critical damage from SE and +125% from thorns, so SE would override thorns for critical damage. A night lord gets +25% critical damage from thorns, but both the +140% critical damage and the +15% critical rate (as opposed to the +0% from thorns) override thorns, so there's no difference for night lords between having both thorns and SE and having just SE alone.

The damage doesn't stack, thorns' +250% damage overrides the critical damage bonus from decent sharp eyes.



They don't stack, the bonus effect you get is based on the greater effect, and the lower effect is ignored. Both icons stay because this is different depending on the class. For example, a hero would get +15% critical chance from SE and +35% chance from thorns, so with both icons up, only thorns takes effect for the critical chance bonus. However, the hero gets +140% critical damage from SE and +125% from thorns, so SE would override thorns for critical damage. A night lord gets +25% critical damage from thorns, but both the +140% critical damage and the +15% critical rate (as opposed to the +0% from thorns) override thorns, so there's no difference for night lords between having both thorns and SE and having just SE alone.

Does either of them have any indicator of being smart buffs? That might be the easiest explanation.

No.

The damage doesn't stack, thorns' +250% damage overrides the critical damage bonus from decent sharp eyes.



They don't stack, the bonus effect you get is based on the greater effect, and the lower effect is ignored. Both icons stay because this is different depending on the class. For example, a hero would get +15% critical chance from SE and +35% chance from thorns, so with both icons up, only thorns takes effect for the critical chance bonus. However, the hero gets +140% critical damage from SE and +125% from thorns, so SE would override thorns for critical damage. A night lord gets +25% critical damage from thorns, but both the +140% critical damage and the +15% critical rate (as opposed to the +0% from thorns) override thorns, so there's no difference for night lords between having both thorns and SE and having just SE alone.

They wouldn't stack its whatever one is used last gets the effects. Hard to come up with an example because no skill works like them but the closest would be like raging over an apple rage is weaker but still replaces the apple.

The damage doesn't stack, thorns' +250% damage overrides the critical damage bonus from decent sharp eyes.



They don't stack, the bonus effect you get is based on the greater effect, and the lower effect is ignored. Both icons stay because this is different depending on the class. For example, a hero would get +15% critical chance from SE and +35% chance from thorns, so with both icons up, only thorns takes effect for the critical chance bonus. However, the hero gets +140% critical damage from SE and +125% from thorns, so SE would override thorns for critical damage. A night lord gets +25% critical damage from thorns, but both the +140% critical damage and the +15% critical rate (as opposed to the +0% from thorns) override thorns, so there's no difference for night lords between having both thorns and SE and having just SE alone.

Do you have a source for that last part? If so, then really any class that benefited from thorns should have SE and thorns in the same party to get +35/+40 rate/damage while all classes that don't benefit from thorns would only get +15/+40 (SE). From what I thought, it didn't stack in that way, and thorns would just give +35/+25 like normal.

I noticed this during a failiure zak run the other day. A db came along and started to use thorns on everyone. It completly screwed up my dpm for the most part, because usualy I hit 25k per arrow with sharp eyes w/o apple, and with thorns I hit about 2k less for some reason.