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In the Masteria plot, naricane was woreshipped in Nihal as a satanic god. Long ago he was once human but became corrupted with hatred and malice towards all living things. He then became a god of destruction and was sealed away by subani, who is the god of light.
The dark mage, who was an alchemist in Magatia way before the current timeline also became corrupted after comming across materials that were dark in nature (Necromancy, corrupting other living things, dark magic). He then used this new found power to take over the mapleworld. But he was also sealed away, but by the 5 legends instead.
Is this proof enough that Naricane is somehow pulling the strings behind the dark mage and the blackwings?
It all fits together when you think about it.
Subani and Naricane were opposing forces in the Nihal dessert area, subani sealed away Naricane. Somehow naricane's power leaked out of the seal and corrupted the dark mage into becoming an evil sorcerer. The dark mage then conquered the mapleworld without anyone, except the lengends to stop him since subani sacrificed himself to seal away naricane.
The dark mage is supposed to awaken in present time, then once he tries to take over the maple world, he'll try to awaken naricane who is supposed to be the god-like figure of the Antagonists.
- copypaste from one of my threads on basilmarket.
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Would be kinda silly if Nexon NA creation would become the main villain of the game.
Assuming Nexon NA made the place themselves, and not just "stole" it from Koreans and claim it as their own GMS exclusive content :p
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JMS made half of the naricane related content for Masteria.
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Random_Overlord Wrote:JMS made half of the naricane related content for Masteria. you REALLY have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
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IsaacGS Wrote:you REALLY have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
Here it comes....
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Random_Overlord Wrote:JMS made half of the naricane related content for Masteria.
sorry just had to lol at this, please sir explain what brought u upon believing something as outlandish as this? cause last time i checked the only thing jms made that has any ties to narcian and subani were the dark scrolls that nexon AM just happened to tie into the story line and aren't even that big of a part of t just gave the scrolls themselves sum history and dept o.o
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I could be wrong and am just going by crappy memory here but JMS got Masteria-related content after GMS did, didn't they? So how can they have originally made some of the content? The only thing Masteria-related JMS has that we don't is a Pirate boss in CWKPQ (not quite sure of its origin, I've only seen it). Again, I could be wrong as I have not read up on it but either way, that has no connection with KMS. :|
Either way, it's an interesting concept but it just doesn't work for the simple fact that Masteria is GMS-exclusive (to an extent). KMS has nothing to do with it, and they're the ones who originally came up with the Black Mage (not Dark Mage >_>) plot.
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What everyone said, as well I think Nexon AM said that JMS helped out with making the music, KMS did the programming, and GMS did the art design.
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IT would be nice if masteria is made an official area in maplestory. i mean, its the only well put together place among all of the other exclusive areas other than neo tokyo.
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Random_Overlord Wrote:Is this proof enough that Naricane is somehow pulling the strings behind the dark mage and the blackwings?
It all fits together when you think about it.
Only if you make the bizarre assumption that only one person in the universe can be corrupted and evil at any given time and all other evil people must be trained or converted by them.
I wasn't aware Maple had Sith Lords.
Logically if something is capable of corrupting one person, anyone exposed to it is equally likely to become corrupted, regardless of the circumstances. There's no need for someone else who was previously corrupted by a specific thing to be present for someone else to then also be corrupted by that specific thing if corrupting people is an inherent attribute of the thing.
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Random_Overlord Wrote:Here it comes.... 
Isaac's completely correct, though. I'm pretty sure Nexon America isn't allowed to tie storylines together like that. The way it's done now is fine, with the mentioning of "The Alchemist" in Dr. Lang's notes about the Black Magician, among other things.
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I don't think Masteria has anything to do with the Dark Mage except anything Nexon NA feels like fitting together...
(otherwise wouldn't kms have Masteria content too...)
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Random_Overlord Wrote:Here it comes.... 
Sigh. Isaac KNOWS his Maple lore he even made a whole Southperry thread about Maple's Story. If he says you're wrong you are wrong.
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he is wrong but no one is always right
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IllegallySane Wrote:Sigh. Isaac KNOWS his Maple lore he even made a whole Southperry thread about Maple's Story. If he says you're wrong you are wrong.
This. Don't "here it comes  " when you're the one who posted your ideas publicly. People will discuss them, and not all will agree.
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and i was trying not to do this...
It's not some "i know better than you" thing, it's an enormous hole in the logic here that could easily be prevented. A quick search of these very forums would make it clear that JMS didn't have any involvement in the creation of masteria. Fact is, though, that the first post is riddled with those types of errors. "Naricain is worshipped as a satanic god in Nihal" - where did you hear this? The only relationship there is that John says he saw an image of Naricain and Subani there. Somehow that's become the base for the huge leap to "worshipped as satan"?
Not to mention that there's an intrinsic misunderstanding of how the development teams and exclusive content work together from what we've seen. Then again none of this is particularly surprising because as far as i can tell, it's a run-of-the-mill post from this particular user:
Thread title that screams "I've made an important discovery!" Critical misunderstanding, flawed initial assumption, illogical and irrelevant conclusion.
Are there little things that tie the GMS plotline to the main storylines from KMS? Yes, the diary that ray mentioned for example, but they never subvert the possible changes that might come from KMS. Incorrect facts and missteps of logic aside, what if Nexon america did go through with the proposed storyline from the first post? Then one day KMS decides they want to explore the background of the Black Magician and it contradicts what GMS has established? There's either going to be massive continuity problems (hasn't stopped them before, but there's not much point in trying to give a villain a detailed backstory if you're going to leave plotholes lying around) or they're going to have to alter the new stuff from KMS to fit with what's already here, if that's even possible. But that just creates more and more problems as things get added until everything is different - heck, you really can look to JMS for this one, they've done it so much that it's hard to tell it's related to KMS at all.
Point is, if you're going to try to boldly declare a new theory it not only needs to have a reasonable basis and be consistent with the known facts, but you need to take the above types of considerations into account. There are a lot of things that are *possible*, but highly unlikely if you take the development processes into consideration.
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thanks isaac, this thread needed a grain of salt
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The only thing that JMS had involvement in Masteria was the things they added to CWK when it was adapted. Those would be the Pirate CWKPQ boss, the other raven/crimson weapons, and the leveling "dark" crimson weapons. That's all that they had an involvement in. I don't even know how much of the story is still intact there, as no one in the english community has gotten into the keep even, because the key inside is rare as f'uck. And you need to remember, JMS cwk is accessed through the bottom of aqua road.
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Random_Overlord Wrote:JMS made half of the naricane related content for Masteria.
Super LOL.
Also He's the Black Magician. Not the Dark mage.
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Random_Overlord Wrote:Here it comes.... 
So, what, you make an incorrect statement that you most likely put together by skimming through the storyline and then thought everyone would just go la de da and agree with you or something? You're on Southperry son, if you make a mistake you will be corrected. Even if you make those mistakes on purpose.
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