Final Death of Necroposting

I would even go as far as saying Southperry's overall activity has lessened quite a bit in the past couple of months.

r u serious.

Southperry's number of unique IPs viewing the site doubled since Big Bang.

If anything, A&E, MHM, Extractions, and everything from the Training Center to World Forums/Marketplace should be exempt

Strongly disagree for Extractions. The Extractions board should have this implemented for the following reasons:

- Patch data is an extremely transient type of information. This data usually doesn't last more than three weeks before it's outdated.
- The Extraction board is implemented differently. The threads there are ordered in the order that they were posted, not in the order that the last comment happened. Anything that anyone said in a previous thread would be quickly covered up by someone posting in a new thread anyway with whatever comment or question they posted likely never answered.

For the rare thread that does last more than three weeks (KOR adventurer skill tables - or any skill tables for that matter), it should be put into a different area anyway as a point of reference so people don't have to dig through outdated extraction threads.

I would even go as far as saying Southperry's overall activity has lessened quite a bit in the past couple of months.

r u serious.

Southperry's number of unique IPs viewing the site doubled since Big Bang.

If anything, A&E, MHM, Extractions, and everything from the Training Center to World Forums/Marketplace should be exempt

Strongly disagree for Extractions. The Extractions board should have this implemented for the following reasons:

- Patch data is an extremely transient type of information. This data usually doesn't last more than three weeks before it's outdated.
- The Extraction board is implemented differently. The threads there are ordered in the order that they were posted, not in the order that the last comment happened. Anything that anyone said in a previous thread would be quickly covered up by someone posting in a new thread anyway with whatever comment or question they posted likely never answered.

For the rare thread that does last more than three weeks (KOR adventurer skill tables - or any skill tables for that matter), it should be put into a different area anyway as a point of reference so people don't have to dig through outdated extraction threads.

Throes issue was absolutely irrelevant if the entire forum were to be scrapped in favor of blogs, an idea even Fiel admitted considering. There would've been no point in "fixing" it under that circumstance just to delete it. Asking for justification under that circumstances is perfectly reasonable, especially when the issue was approached as 'exempt this entire forum just for my one thread' with no substantiating reasoning.

Eos, if i may ask, where is this consideration? i cant recall him making a public statement about this issue; though to not deviate, ill just pm you what i'd have put here else. the boards that people've been making a fuss over have been fixed, and this pointless banter back and forth about how you carry yourself is just further ruining SP's image. can we not even have a single thread you make that doesnt turn into a question/critique/analyze/criticize-everything-you-do? What good does this image portray of the site as a whole? not a damned thing. wasnt it someone who once said that if you have something to discuss that doesnt pertain to the forum discussion at hand, take it else where?

though to that end of trying to keep this thread on track: what motivation other than "i dont want to deal with necro-posting infractions anymore if they can be avoided" is there behind this move? im saying that because of the thought of a forum where you cannot necro-post seems a bit out of place. go across the internet, and most every forum you could find would have something about necro-posting, even if its just a slap on the wrist, "dont do that again" thing. i wont even say that this idea is inhibiting on ones ability to post, because all it does is force someone to clutter up a forum with a question that might already have been answered (on the same page). it'd be an annoyance on the user, sure, but it wouldn't prevent the person from posting at all. but other than that, is there really any motivation behind it?

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r u serious.

Southperry's number of unique IPs viewing the site doubled since Big Bang.

Yes, but regarding posting and community it feels a lot emptier. [/color]

Eos, if i may ask, where is this consideration?

Right here in this very thread?
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php...post486653

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Yes, but regarding posting and community it feels a lot emptier. [/color]

Yes, I've felt this as well.

Has been discussed.

I vote that the expressive arts forum gets an exemption from the rule, there's usually one post every five days there.

Why would it need an exemption if it's getting activity that frequently?

Why would it need an exemption if it's getting activity that frequently?

Not everyone updates their artwork daily or weekly. Some might do it once a month, which is over the 21 day period.

Open Canvas & Shady Tree are already exempt though, what's left in expressive arts that actually gets traffic to justify an exemption?

Open Canvas & Shady Tree are already exempt though, what's left in expressive arts that actually gets traffic to justify an exemption?

Wait, are you saying it shouldn't get an exemption because nobody posts there often enough?

There shouldn't be a necroposting block on a forum that's devoted to sharing art, especially when some people make single threads to post all of their works. Once the 21 days has gone by, the person has to make yet another thread, which is essentially the same as bringing up the old one, only you now go out of your way for no good reason.

The OP has the ability to reopen their thread at any time just by editing the original post.

If the OP isn't active and the threads been dead for 21 days there's not much left to say or any reason to say it in that thread, is there?

That aside, once again, Open Canvas & Shady Tree aren't even effected by the rule, so what is your point/issue?

The OP has the ability to reopen their thread at any time just by editing the original post.

If the OP isn't active and the threads been dead for 21 days there's not much left to say or any reason to say it in that thread, is there?

That aside, once again, Open Canvas & Shady Tree aren't even effected by the rule, so what is your point/issue?

What about the other subforums and the forum itself?

People come back. The real question here is whether or not there should have been a lock on that forum in the first place. There is no logical reason for it.

That's not what is said when people get infracted for necroposting. People asked for it, they got it.

That's not what is said when people get infracted for necroposting. People asked for it, they got it.

People got infracted for necroposting in the popular forums, not the unpopular ones, and if they did maybe they shouldn't have been handed the infraction. The only time this is really needed is when a thread is pulled up in front of more recent and relevent ones, however in the forum I am speaking of threads take a year to reach the second page, hell I don't even know if there is a second page (haven't checked the "from the beginning" choice in the Expressive Arts). In 21 days, one thread moved down three places or so. That's it. There's no harm in bringing it up again.

EDIT: I was correct on that one, there is no second page. There are only six threads, two of them being mine on the same exact topic (you'll notice the title of them quickly)

If you have nothing new to contribute, then you can edit your original post every so often in order to keep it unlocked. If your thread ends up getting locked, then create a new thread with the important elements from the old ones. If the thread is important then you should be able to at least keep track of it every twenty days. Is it a nuisance? Sure. Does it suck for you individually? Yes. If you wanted you could possibly stick your thread in the Open Canvas as music could arguably fit the description of a type of art. I'm sure that no one is going to call you out as far more irrelevant topics get misplaced all over the forum board and people just let it slide. Especially in the case that you will be revisiting your own thread, I'm sure that it should fine with a lot of people. The rule isn't fundamentally horrible. It can be a little impractical but there are many methods of working with it if you choose to truly be serious regarding your own threads that you find to be of utmost significance. There are ways of getting what you want without needing to directly change or challenge the rules.

If you have nothing new to contribute, then you can edit your original post every so often in order to keep it unlocked. If your thread ends up getting locked, then create a new thread with the important elements from the old ones. If the thread is important then you should be able to at least keep track of it every twenty days. Is it a nuisance? Sure. Does it suck for you individually? Yes. If you wanted you could possibly stick your thread in the Open Canvas as music could arguably fit the description of a type of art. I'm sure that no one is going to call you out as far more irrelevant topics get misplaced all over the forum board and people just let it slide. Especially in the case that you will be revisiting your own thread, I'm sure that it should fine with a lot of people. The rule isn't fundamentally horrible. It can be a little impractical but there are many methods of working with it if you choose to truly be serious regarding your own threads that you find to be of utmost significance. There are ways of getting what you want without needing to directly change or challenge the rules.

From what I understand about vB it shouldn't take more than a few seconds to lift this on a single forum. I understand there are ways of getting around it, but why force people out of their way to do it?

I don't see the reasoning behind NOT getting rid of it on the Expressive Arts, that is all. People are being so protective of the rule as if it has to be, and it just doesn't have to be. If someone would give me a valid argument as to why, maybe I would accept it to be how it is. It's not because I'm lazy, it's not because I can't figure it out, it's because the rule just has no value in this area.

From what I understand about vB it shouldn't take more than a few seconds to lift this on a single forum. I understand there are ways of getting around it, but why force people out of their way to do it? I don't see the reasoning behind NOT getting rid of it on the Expressive Arts, that is all. People are being so protective of the rule as if it has to be, and it just doesn't have to be. If someone would give me a valid argument as to why, maybe I would accept it to be how it is. It's not because I'm lazy, it's not because I can't figure it out, it's because the rule just has no value in this area.

From what I understand about posting a new thread, it shouldn't take more than a few seconds to put it up on a single forum. I understand that it takes time to write it, so why don't you just place it in the Open Canvas and give yourself a break? I don't see the reasoning behind OBJECTING from placing it in a section where you can update as you please, that is all. People are being so argumentative of the rule as if it has to be a big deal, and it just doesn't have to be a big deal. If you would give me a valid argument as to why, maybe I would accept why the status quo must change. It's not because I'm a psychophant authortitarian worshiper, it's not because you are arguing over a section that only has SIX threads where 1/3 of the threads won't ever be updated, 1/3 has been inactive, & 1/3 is solely composed of your own contributions, it's because there is no fucking practical reason why you can't just post in the Open Canvas and preserve your project until the day your plantain shrivels up in your grave.

I don't see the reasoning behind NOT getting rid of it on the Expressive Arts, that is all.

You're requesting an exception.
Exceptions to the rules require justifications, not the rules themselves which have already justified their existence in some way.
You've yet to provide a reason why this is exception is necessary in any way with the options currently available.