Hp Washing without leveling?

Hey guys.

Is it possible to HP wash without leveling, with 0 AP left?

E.g.
Resetting 1 stat into HP, then MP > HP, -repeat-

Or, do we have to: Stat > HP, MP > Stat, -repeat-

The only reason why people level to HP wash is that there's a minimum MP limit...so the higher their level the more MP they have which in turn means more MP they can wash.

The second one is correct. (Stat>HP, MP>Stat)

Hey guys.

Is it possible to HP wash without leveling, with 0 AP left?

E.g.
Resetting 1 stat into HP, then MP > HP, -repeat-

Or, do we have to: Stat > HP, MP > Stat, -repeat-

Stat -> HP ==> MP -> Stat

It's possible, it just costs twice the amount of AP resets, so if you would use the 20 free AP resets, you can only reset 10 times.

Still, 10x 18hp on avg per wash = a 180HP boost, always nice!

Still MAKE SURE to watch your minimum MP limit, you can not take stats out of MP when your CLEAN (no equips) MP is below that level!!!

Ah thanks for all the answers.

My friend seems to be able to reset MP>HP with just 1 point in the pool but I'm guessing he'll glitch himself? Who knows.

Ah thanks for all the answers.

My friend seems to be able to reset MP>HP with just 1 point in the pool but I'm guessing he'll glitch himself? Who knows.

This is actually the cheaper way. The two answers above are not wrong, but why spend twice the amount of NX????

A simple 1 point into HP followed by continuous MP>HP washes and a MP>Stat at the very end is the cheapest method.

i just took a point out of dex (from 23 base to 22) and then cycled that one ap in hp out of mp in hp out of mp until i reached my limit then put it back into dex again

This is actually the cheaper way. The two answers above are not wrong, but why spend twice the amount of NX????

A simple 1 point into HP followed by continuous MP>HP washes and a MP>Stat at the very end is the cheapest method.

I just tried this on my hero and gained only 20 hp per ap(did three). Does improving max hp not factor into this? I would assume I should be gaining 50 hp per ap... help

I just tried this on my hero and gained only 20 hp per ap(did three). Does improving max hp not factor into this? I would assume I should be gaining 50 hp per ap... help

Well, according to this guide from SW, Improving Max HP doesn't work with points from your MP.

I just tried this on my hero and gained only 20 hp per ap(did three). Does improving max hp not factor into this? I would assume I should be gaining 50 hp per ap... help

Unfortunately, as said just above me, it is not recommended for either warriors or Bucs. Those classes must actually level and place points into HP to receive the maximum gains; however, the method is perfectly fine for all other classes (except possibly mages, but they usually don't HP wash).

It is worth noting too that placing from MP>HP will always give you the minimum gain whereas placing directly into HP from a level up will give you a range (so you could gain 0-~5 more HP per point). I had washed around 25 points or so after I hit 200 so I can promise that it works (and it is the cheapest method for HP washing without leveling, to answer the OP).

I did the stat->hp, mp->stat last night without knowing about mp->hp until this morning

Hope there's really a rollback in scania last night ><

Well, according to this guide from SW, Improving Max HP doesn't work with points from your MP.

Unfortunately, as said just above me, it is not recommended for either warriors or Bucs. Those classes must actually level and place points into HP to receive the maximum gains; however, the method is perfectly fine for all other classes (except possibly mages, but they usually don't HP wash).

It is worth noting too that placing from MP>HP will always give you the minimum gain whereas placing directly into HP from a level up will give you a range (so you could gain 0-~5 more HP per point). I had washed around 25 points or so after I hit 200 so I can promise that it works (and it is the cheapest method for HP washing without leveling, to answer the OP).

Thanks for the help, that guide is much better than the one I found.

well this is refreshing. Since i know i won't level in time to make use of the resets, this gives me an easy few points :0