MoN vs Chaos HT Pendant?

This may be a stupid question, but I haven't played Maple in a long time, and am not too familiar with all the new updates and all.



Which will be better in the long run, now that we have potential scrolls, and Big Bang update coming up eventually?

Mark of Naricain or an egged Chaos Horntail Pendant?

Does the Egg add +15 to the WATTK and MATTK on the Pendant as well? If so, I guess the answer is obvious. :X

Chaos HTPs, egged once:
25-all
2 atk/matk
10% hp/mp

Not to mention, CHTPs get Potentials.

1.We do not know if we can egg the Chaos HT pendant once or twice.
2. We do not know if we can potential scroll the MoN.
If we can use only one egg on the HT pend, and use potential on the MoN, I think the MoN will be better. Of course, with chaos scrolling and such, the HT pendant might have the highest potential. Hard to say for sure yet.

MoN still holds out stat wise over CHTP. The main thing that will appeal for CHTP, is the +10% hp/mp. At around 140, for ranged classes that 10% hp will give ~400 hp for an unwashed char.

That is before potential. If the MoN is exempt (I would think it isnt) then you would obviously have better out comes with CHTP, as it can have a good +% to stats.

If the MoN is potentialable, then my money is on the MoN. It gives a better increase for weapon att (+% weapon att would be better benefited), and it is high enough level to gain good stat % bonuses as well.


Straight out average, for a BM, MoN gives ~11 attack, an CHTP offers only ~7 attack. It would be pretty hard to get a CHTP, let alone one that is better than a MoN.

chtp can be chaoses though and they can be potential scrolled aswell, mon cant be potential scrolled for sure

clean a mon > chtp i guess but chtp for sure has way more potential

Also you can never trade a MoN, so you'll have to potential a good one yourself. With enough money you can just buy a 24% stat HTP. Which would definitely beat a typical MoN.



I guess if Potential Scrolls are cheap, people can start bringing them + magnifying glasses into CKPQs and just identifying their MoNs on loot. The bosses won't take much time with all the new damage people will be doing anyway.

Also you can never trade a MoN, so you'll have to potential a good one yourself. With enough money you can just buy a 24% stat HTP. Which would definitely beat a typical MoN.



I guess if Potential Scrolls are cheap, people can start bringing them + magnifying glasses into CKPQs and just identifying their MoNs on loot. The bosses won't take much time with all the new damage people will be doing anyway.

Actually, they'd just need to bring magnifying glasses because items dropped post-patch should all be unidentified.

Actually, they'd just need to bring magnifying glasses because items dropped post-patch should all be unidentified.

Wrong, there's a chance that they come unidentified.
Source: All the regular equip drops I got in KMS.

The dragon stone has a variable on it called reqRUC = 3 which I'm guessing is the number of slots required on the item before it can be used. So if you include hammers, chaos horntail pendants can be scrolled 4 times with the dragon stone, ending up with 70 to all stats o_o

Does reqRUC mean >= 3 or =3 ... ?

anyone know of someone hammering their HTP first and scroll later when the hammers were first released?

mon cant be potential scrolled for surel

Do we know this or are you just making uneducated guesses?

The dragon stone has a variable on it called reqRUC = 3 which I'm guessing is the number of slots required on the item before it can be used. So if you include hammers, chaos horntail pendants can be scrolled 4 times with the dragon stone, ending up with 70 to all stats o_o

I don't think they'll allow hammers. You can't egg Chaos HTPs more than once in kMS either.

The dragon stone has a variable on it called reqRUC = 3 which I'm guessing is the number of slots required on the item before it can be used. So if you include hammers, chaos horntail pendants can be scrolled 4 times with the dragon stone, ending up with 70 to all stats o_o

Which Dragon Stone is this? Required Remaining Upgrade Count = 3 makes it sound like it can't be used with 4 or more slot, but strictly 3.

What....

CHTP can only be scrolled once with an egg. I'm not sure if you can use Hammers on CHTPs because they are not allowed on HTPs either (are they that thorough?). But at any rate, even if you could, an egg can only be used if the number of slots on the pendant is 3. So you still get 1 egg/pendant. Chaos Scroll the rest of the slots, and do let us know if chaos scrolls affect +HP% and +MP% while you're at it.

What....

CHTP can only be scrolled once with an egg. I'm not sure if you can use Hammers on CHTPs because they are not allowed on HTPs either (are they that thorough?). But at any rate, even if you could, an egg can only be used if the number of slots on the pendant is 3. So you still get 1 egg/pendant. Chaos Scroll the rest of the slots, and do let us know if chaos scrolls affect +HP% and +MP% while you're at it.

But CHTP has four slots, shouldn't you be able to use a stone once to get it to three and still be able to scroll it with another stone?

thought it was already proven that chaos scrolls don't work on +hp/mp%s?

I think you could fail the first slot, stone it, clean slate and then stone it again.

Granted, chances for that are minimmum, but there's still the possibility

Logically, it would make sense for MoNs not to be potential-ed because there are no slots. It is my understanding that enhancement scrolls only work when slots = 0, which is not the same as having no slots (right? The variable should be missing completely, but maybe someone can confirm/deny that for us).

In the [illogical] case you can potential MoNs, expect those 2/2 rings (the dex/str and luk/int ones) to shoot through the roof since those would also be potential-ed. So could possibly medals. Although I didn't see in the potential threads mentioning anything about medals which leads me to believe you cannot enhancement scroll no slots items, but we'll see.

I thought medals and pendants could not be potential'd or rings.