KMS defeats Pink Bean!

Glad to see that the Big Bang update made it more easily killable.

oh snap... the guy who made the video picked a time rock =O

lol, not the fact that OMG ITS BEATABLE NOW WTP more about the fact that it was the last salvo they could throw at us and to me, it should take an army of lvl 200's a long time to kill it, and these guys downed it like rigth after a patch, this tells me that they havge buffed chars up to much and havent done the approperate alterations to the existing monsters and bosses that should have been needed. To me, there should always be 1 boss that is toooooooo strong for anyone to kill unless you get the top 30 guys in the server to down it(which will never happen because Maple is one of the stops for the drama llama express) and should always be fun to play with.

I know in Bera GMS that it took like ... a week or so to down HT after it came out... and it was supposed to be this HUGE ANGRY BOSS OF ULTIMATE ULTIMUMNESS!!! now the Zakum release in GMS Bera was much better, it took several months, with several failing runs where lots of people dc'd or died in the process.

I Believe a boss should be hard and challeneging to your skills and abilities, like it used to be. Hell i remember when Ludi first came out, trying to down Pap with 2 parties of people lvl 100-120ish... now look... i can take my Hero there solo and down the thing in a few mins... even kill the thing so much faster with my Corsair or even solo a zakum in liek an hour.

I dunno i just have expectations of a boss run to be hard, not something you kill repeatidly to make money thats so friggin easy to down. And as they increase character damage i think they should increase bosses hp(or defence) or add something to it to make it more challenging to the masses.

A good way to look at that scenario is with people able to farm PB like that the economy would get better, and people would be able to afford much more than what it is today, where it costs millions to buy a horntail pendant since not everyone is able to get into the runs, people want to do the run as fast as possible so by the end of the day, they can get more profit from their sales, so many of the classes are overlooked since they honestly would only slow the rest of the group down. With a remake of all monsters and their levels, pink bean is the highest you can get today since anything stronger would flat out be impossible to bring down, i'm sure at the level it's at in the update, it's still hard, but now people have a chance, since they actually have a solid strategy to fight pink bean already.

I found this screenie on Insoya.

http://www.insoya.com/bbs/data/maple_pho...700_01.jpg

Ouch.

2 MW 30s? Goddamn...

Didn't they use the PYPQ +400% buff though or no? I know there was "supposedly" one server that used the PYPQ buff and got to PB with blazing speed, but didn't kill him due to the "Legit" concern or whatever.

No, I think it was Windia or another server because I'm not entirely sure. Broa had the run recorded, and it's also on Youtube btw.

However, our last held run we made it all the way to PB with 22min remaining w/out any d/c problems because we kept it so secretive and made sure nobody talked about it to anyone. Not even in their own guilds. We only had a couple people who had trouble due to vista/win7 and the autobanning problem has yet to effect us. The only problem on our run was a mistake on the leaders part before the run even started that hindered us from being able to test our real experiment out during the last phase.
Even though we're now ready to retest it, we've lost alot of people who have quit/hacked/wrongly banned. PB is completely killable even with vista/win7 problems and D/C hacks still around. Just have to know how to handle each problem..

you guys are a lil bit late about this they killed PB before Big bang patch

you guys are a lil bit late about this they killed PB before Big bang patch

Source?

you guys are a lil bit late about this they killed PB before Big bang patch

Correction: JMS did.

I found this screenie on Insoya.

http://www.insoya.com/bbs/data/maple_pho...700_01.jpg

Ouch.

Pictofied:

EDIT: Or not.

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You're doing it wrong.

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Lol you can't hotlink, that's why I made it a copy/paste. I was too lazy to rehost it.

Anyway, the main reason I posted it was because they finished in just over 30 minutes with 17 people at the end...that's insane.

You're doing it wrong.

Now this makes me fear the big bang. While I enjoy all the skill updates and a better alternative to HP washing, destroying Pink Bean with such clear ease and so fast is definitely too much. Especially since PBs damage seems so much lower; I hope they update some of these bosses to make them less of a joke.

Silly Ben, Horntail took a lot longer than a week for Bera to kill. It was closer to a month after quite a few failed attempts. Besides, Pink Bean has been out for a long time. The point of a boss isn't to be impossible, it should be able to be beaten with adequate preparation. Besides, the fall of Pink Bean just paves the way for more "impossible" bosses to emerge and fall with time.

alrigth a month w/e not liek we even tried everyday or anything tho, i knew a lot of the ppl on those runs and i know they wernt trying nearly as hard as they had to for the first bit, and im just saying i like uber hard try them a bajillion times bosses they take moar skill and preperation than the average mapler will ever be able to pull off (and nooo im not being an eliest NX person) but after seeing that video of the run and seeing what it took to actually kill it. It's prety clear since they lowered PB to like... "weaker than pre-BB HT" that something else is lurking in the shadows ... DUN DUN DUNNNNNN >.>

So basically you want an unbeatable boss.

yes, yes i do

Keep in mind, that Pink Bean has now been changed to be a level 150 boss.

How about we wait for a run comprised of Lv 150-160 characters before passing judgement on whether or not its been made too easy.

Keep in mind, that Pink Bean has now been changed to be a level 150 boss.

How about we wait for a run comprised of Lv 150-160 characters before passing judgement on whether or not its been made too easy.

This. This makes it seem like Pink Been will become the current Horntail. I would love to see the fight with no one having such a huge level advantage as in the screen shot. They should make it drop a lil extra if you have no more then 10 levels over the boss imo.

This does open up new content for higher levels... content that has been missing for eons. I wonder if they will actually do so now...

Though it's a level 150 boss, the chances of seeing a group of levels 150 ~ 160 fight Pink Bean is highly unlikely. They would have to do all of the quests in Time Temple and I'm not even sure what levels the quests are now, not to mention that you would have to fight level 164 Guardian Captains of Oblivion before you could advance. You can't even hit those at a 100% rate until you're level 164, either, and if the quests have the same level difference with the monsters that they did before, you won't be able to even advance to Pink Bean until around 165 or higher.

unbeatable boss would be the black mage itself.

This. This makes it seem like Pink Been will become the current Horntail. I would love to see the fight with no one having such a huge level advantage as in the screen shot. They should make it drop a lil extra if you have no more then 10 levels over the boss imo.

This does open up new content for higher levels... content that has been missing for eons. I wonder if they will actually do so now...

I completely agree with this, like many have said before as well. They have 50 more levels of boss mobs they can play with, and so I dearly hope they release new, super high-leveled mobs as more end-game content. With the change in accuracy formulas leaving only those at or above the mob level able to hit it, this makes new high-leveled bosses truly end-game content.

Ex.: Anyone wanting more Lv. 200 content? Make a Lv. 200 boss.

I find it funny that a lot of people are complaining about PB being way too easy now, while most people complained about PB being too ridiculously hard before.

I'd rather PB be easier to kill. Now i can actually GO to a PB run.