Ask a Thief Thread.

Yes but more levels = more luk = more maximum damage. Your damage increases but you don't have any skills that raises your mastery beyond 60% like dark knights or bowmasters. Ask any level 15x hero and they'll say they don't like their mastery and damage range.

Dark Knights are stable. 80% mastery, max and min damage have the same multiplier (5.0*str) Bowmasters aren't because our criticals do 340% while our normal arrows do 100%. Even with 90% mastery our lowest hits are incredibly low. Shadowers are kind of in the middle.

Mkay mkay dont go off topic D:

I agree with you in saying how LUK might cause unstable damage.
But mastery really stables up your damage, to a limit though.
LUK also adds avoid btw which is a plus.
And LUK isnt all that unstable, adding more damage is way worth it.

How much base dex to low-dex sins usually have?
and which is better for a low-dex sin, scrolling for dex or scrolling for luk? (I have 50 base dex)

How much base dex to low-dex sins usually have?
and which is better for a low-dex sin, scrolling for dex or scrolling for luk? (I have 50 base dex)

Depends on fundings. However, you should have enough dex + the dex from your equipment to wear a scarab, gig, or craven (mostly a scarab).

You must scroll for dex if you want to wear the scarab or whatever.

Depends on fundings. However, you should have enough dex + the dex from your equipment to wear a scarab, gig, or craven (mostly a scarab).

You must scroll for dex if you want to wear the scarab or whatever.

In terms of damage should I scroll for luk or dex?
and is 50 a good base dex?...and like I said before how much base dex do low-dex sins usually have?

In terms of damage should I scroll for luk or dex?
and is 50 a good base dex?...and like I said before how much base dex do low-dex sins usually have?

Well, you want to wear a scarab/something similar so you scroll for dex. If you scroll for luck that completely ruins the job "low dex"

Anyways, depends on your fundings if 50 is a good base dex.

Well, you want to wear a scarab/something similar so you scroll for dex. If you scroll for luck that completely ruins the job "low dex"

How does scrolling for luk ruin low dex? If you have excessive dex, then why not convert some of that unused dex into luk?

25 dex base, 35 dex zhelm, 22 dex pendant, 10 dex cape, 5 dex fs, 13 dex pants gives you 110 dex already.

From there, get 10 luk earrings and some high luk top. That's about 25+ more luk which is 5 level ups. There's nothing wrong with scrolling things for luk if you're dexless or even low dex. What your final claw is dictates what your equipment should be. Whether it's a skanda, craven, scarab, caster, or sleeve.

You might say 35 dex zhelm and 22 dex pendants are impossible to get unless you're 16x+ and in a zak and HT group. Yes that's true but until then, you can use a dex overall or dex earrings. Good equips comes from marketing and knowing the right people; inside and outside the market. Nobody expects a 9x unfunded character to have fancy stuff anyway.

Well, you could of have the excessive dex in luck in the first place when you're adding your points.

But if you are a dexless rab/craven/whatever user you might as well try to equip a craven or sleeve instead of a scarab with that much dex.

The attack bonuses from a claw is much more higher than the attack bonuses from luck equipment.

At around 16x I'd assume 12 luck = 1 attack.

Well, you could of have the excessive dex in luck in the first place when you're adding your points.

But if you are a dexless rab/craven/whatever user you might as well try to equip a craven or sleeve instead of a scarab with that much dex.

The attack bonuses from a claw is much more higher than the attack bonuses from luck equipment.

Yes, you can. But only it the atk of a craven would beat the scarab. 60 atk scarab vs a 60atk craven. The scarab wins by the 30 luk saved (6 level ups). That's why I said

What your final claw is dictates what your equipment should be. Whether it's a skanda, craven, scarab, caster, or sleeve.

But the point was the scrolling for or wearing luk equips does not completely ruin the idea of low dex which was something you said.

Yes, you can. But only it the atk of a craven would beat the scarab. 60 atk scarab vs a 60atk craven. The scarab wins by the 30 luk saved (6 level ups). That's why I said


But the point was the scrolling for or wearing luk equips does not completely ruin the idea of low dex which was something you said.

That's completely unfair, a 60 attack scarab vs a 60 attack craven.

Anyways, I exaggerated the point "completely ruins" *shrugs.*
But yeah, it doesn't completely ruin...just...bit unnecessary .

That's completely unfair, a 60 attack scarab vs a 60 attack craven.

Anyways, I exaggerated the point "completely ruins" *shrugs.*
But yeah, it doesn't completely ruin...just...bit unnecessary .

Okay then, we can settle/end the discussion there. Yes that is unfair. If one has a 6x atk sleeve and a 5x scarab, pick the sleeve and get the dex needed.

got some funds for my dit in yellonde. 18m and 3 60% dagger atts.
So i wanna first slot 30% a dagger and 60 the rest.
But i dont know what dagger would be better to scroll, dt or df?
im thinking df since i can always get a good dt later on.

Any tips for bombing Gobi's effectively? I know how much money to drop, I just don't know how to dispatch the Bonefish properly. How much meso should I be dropping to kill them?

Can anybody tell me what a typical lvl 30 assassin's HP and MP would be after 2nd job advance? I'm working on a unique build and would like some kind of reference point. Thanks!

a level 30 should have around 20-24 less than that.

a level 30 should have around 20-24 less than that.

I have 1027 hp and 823 mp at lvl 30. People have said it's roughly 350hp and 200mp for the job advance, but I only got 301hp and 197mp, so I'm wondering if I should start over and hope for a better HP boost from 2nd job advance. That missing 50hp hurts quite a bit.

http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=26

its up to you since it becomes less noticeable as you level. starting over might give you something lower. and being 50 hp behind is 'fixable' by washing 3 times.

I have a question...I was wondering, when I get to NL, if I should put 1 in Taunt since I've heard it increases exp quite a bit. Is the exp worth the point and time it takes to cast the skill?

Alright, so I've decided to go Low-dex now. Is there any way to calculate how much ATT my new dagger will need to beat out my dexless self?

Which is best?
Luk+Dex Bandit (reg)
Luk Bandit (Dexless)
Strength+Dex Bandit
Strength Bandit (Dexless strength)