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Dual Blade weapon loadout questions
#1
I was wondering now that the Dual Blade release is near:

- What happens if a Dual Blade attacks without equipping a Blade, and only a Dagger?
- What happens if a Dual Blade attacks without equipping a Dagger, and only a Blade?
- What happens if a Dual Blade equips an Attack Shield + Dagger, does that attack gets added to his Dagger stat?
-->Only important if Dual Blade skills work without a blade in the first place...
- Does Dual Blade's Booster/Mastery also work for STR daggers?

Weird questions, but I like weird class builds... xD
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#2
Devil Wrote:- What happens if a Dual Blade attacks without equipping a Blade, and only a Dagger?
They can't.
Devil Wrote:- What happens if a Dual Blade attacks without equipping a Dagger, and only a Blade?
They can't.
Devil Wrote:- Does Dual Blade's Booster/Mastery also work for STR daggers?
Yes.
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#3
Devil Wrote:- What happens if a Dual Blade equips an Attack Shield + Dagger, does that attack gets added to his Dagger stat?

Yes, it's added like any other bandit. But then you can use only normal attacks, disorder, and double stab.
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#4
Rigumaro Wrote:Yes, it's added like any other bandit. But then you can use only normal attacks, disorder, and double stab.

Wait... what? I thought Dual Blade characters cannot equip shields, since they don't have the shield slot in their equipment inventory window.
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#5
ShiKage Wrote:Wait... what? I thought Dual Blade characters cannot equip shields, since they don't have the shield slot in their equipment inventory window.

I believe this is correct.
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#6
ShiKage Wrote:Wait... what? I thought Dual Blade characters cannot equip shields, since they don't have the shield slot in their equipment inventory window.

They can equip shields, they just can't use any of their regular skills (besides the three mentioned above).
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#7
Herborist Wrote:They can equip shields, they just can't use any of their regular skills (besides the three mentioned above).

Oh?

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I can't equip a shield on Mazz's Dual Blader. There's no "Shield" slot in the equipment inventory, so shields cannot be worn by Dual Bladers.


The error says :
듀얼블레이드 직업군은 방패를
장착할 수 없습니다.

Google Translate says :
Dual Blades is Shield occupations
Can not be mounted.

Bad translation, but the error means that Dual Blades are a job that cannot use shields.
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#8
ShiKage Wrote:Dual Blades is Shieldless occupations
Can not be mounted.

Bad translation, but the error means that Dual Blades are a job that cannot use shields.

That's better.

Everyone knows Google translate sucks by now. LolHorsePower.
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#9
Hanabira.Kage Wrote:
That's better.

Everyone knows Google translate sucks by now. LolHorsePower.

Lol. I ported it into Japanese and it was an almost perfect translation. "デュアルブレードの職業は、盾を装着することはできません。"

Direct translation : "The Dual Blade job cannot equip shields."
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#10
They can't equip shields? At all? That doesn't even make sense... I think that that's the only class that can't equip shields, then.

Did you try without any weapons at all?

Side note: why are some things in English in KMS? I can understand the 4 cardinal stats, but why the equip window?

Other side note: is that a maple dagger? Looks awesome.
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#11
Herborist Wrote:They can't equip shields? At all? That doesn't even make sense... I think that that's the only class that can't equip shields, then.

Did you try without any weapons at all?

Side note: why are some things in English in KMS? I can understand the 4 cardinal stats, but why the equip window?

Other side note: is that a maple dagger? Looks awesome.

That was without any weapons at all. And no, that's a level 64 Maple Blade.
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#12
Herborist Wrote:They can't equip shields? At all? That doesn't even make sense... I think that that's the only class that can't equip shields, then.

Did you try without any weapons at all?

Side note: why are some things in English in KMS? I can understand the 4 cardinal stats, but why the equip window?

Other side note: is that a maple dagger? Looks awesome.

You can see it clearly in that screen shot, he's not wearing anything in either weapon slot.
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#13
You might be able to do single-hit skills without a blade, not sure though. Those skills are actually based off your damage range rather than your weapon ranges. Multi-hit skills are a definite no though, since I think they work by taking from your damage range then multiplying by a modifier below 1 to get your single-weapon range for each weapon. I'm assuming that because when DBs attack monsters on wep cancel, it shows up as all misses.

Oh, except you can double stab I guess, lol.
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#14
JoeTang Wrote:You can see it clearly in that screen shot, he's not wearing anything in either weapon slot.

I confused his maple pendant for a maple weapon.
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#15
That's something nice to know for HP washers lol :x
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#16
Cyanne Wrote:You might be able to do single-hit skills without a blade, not sure though. Those skills are actually based off your damage range rather than your weapon ranges. Multi-hit skills are a definite no though, since I think they work by taking from your damage range then multiplying by a modifier below 1 to get your single-weapon range for each weapon. I'm assuming that because when DBs attack monsters on wep cancel, it shows up as all misses.

No, you can't use ANY DB skill without blade except Flash Bang and Owl Dead. Also, it doesn't multiply your range for 0.x to get dagger and blade damage. Dual bladers have 3 damage ranges: Dagger one, Blade one, and both combined. So, if you use a lvl 10 blade and then a lvl 90 one with te same dagger, your dagger hits will do the same damage, even though your damage range shown in stat window changed a lot. Only blade hits will be increased.

And sorry, I really thought we could equip shields, cause every job could.
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#17
Rigumaro Wrote:No, you can't use ANY DB skill without blade except Flash Bang and Owl Dead. Also, it doesn't multiply your range for 0.x to get dagger and blade damage. Dual bladers have 3 damage ranges: Dagger one, Blade one, and both combined. So, if you use a lvl 10 blade and then a lvl 90 one with te same dagger, your dagger hits will do the same damage, even though your damage range shown in stat window changed a lot. Only blade hits will be increased.

And sorry, I really thought we could equip shields, cause every job could.

The modifier is there to scale the dagger and blade ranges from your damage range, so it's the same thing.
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#18
Cyanne Wrote:The modifier is there to scale the dagger and blade ranges from your damage range, so it's the same thing.

Then the modifier would be the dagger or blade weapon attack. What I don't know yet is if +luk from dagger applies to blade dammage and viceversa.
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