Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations

The last one doesnt add up. Is it possible you have 2 extra avoid somewhere?

I'd think equip avoid would add to both phys. and magic avoid though, so that's odd.

Maybe there's a +% physical avoid on one of the blue equips? Just conjecture though.


And no I don't know accuracy values at all. :x

Well, I worked on the physical accuracy for a bit, and since I dont know entirely the equips, it is the best I can do. It worked on the level 21 rogue (assume 4 fairy, +9 acc nimble body, and +1 acc dana [used reverse engineering with avoid formula]) and the level 23 mage (same reverse engineering). It would also work with your level 80 warrior, Stereo, if it has an extra 5 acc somewhere.

(1/0.84)*DEX+LUK (Rounddown).


Edit: I think I found the mage accuracy formula: it is a real let down compared to the others, but it seems to work.

Luk + Int + other accuracies

This works for Stereo's warrior (same 5 accuracy occurance) and the thief, but seems to stray on the mage, where it happens to matter the most.

And here are the remaining warrior equips:
58 STR, 30 DEX
Total Att = Weapon Att + 4 atk from Blessing

1H Axe

 12~61|21 Att

 21~104|36 Att

1H BW

 13~66|23 Att

 22~110|38 Att

2H BW

 24~120|36 Att

 27~136|41 Att

Spear

 28~141|36 Att

 32~160|41 Att

Pole Arm

 28~141|36 Att

 32~160|41 Att

1H Axe and BW seem to be around 1.1, need more 2H BW, Spear and PA are around 1.5

Gonna level to 20 and check those out.

So...
Polearm - 1.49
Spear - 1.49
2h BW - 1.27
1h BW - 1.10
1h Axe - 1.10

Weapon Type	Multiplier
1H Sword	1.10
1H Axe	1.10
1H BW	1.10
Dagger	1.3 (str + dex secondary)
Wand	0.88
Staff	0.88
2H Sword	1.28
2H Axe	1.26
2H BW	1.27
Spear	1.49
Polearm	1.49
Bow	???
Crossbow	???
Claw	2.0
Knuckler	???
Gun	1.6

Why the 2h BW has higher multiplier than 2h Axe, I cannot say. Maybe they changed several formulas by +0.01.

The accuracy formulae seem to be accurate (except for that 1/0.84; that needs work). And the modifiers for the spear and polearm seem to be the same; estimated at ~1.53 (1.526718 more specific, but isn't round enough, and is only looking at the 41 atk value. Probably would be best to get it to a higher level). Other modifiers seem accurate.

So...
Polearm - 1.49
Spear - 1.49
2h BW - 1.27
1h BW - 1.10
1h Axe - 1.10

Weapon Type	Multiplier
1H Sword	1.20
1H Axe	1.10
1H BW	1.10
Dagger	1.3 (str + dex secondary)
Wand	0.88
Staff	0.88
2H Sword	1.28
2H Axe	1.26
2H BW	1.27
Spear	1.49
Polearm	1.49
Bow	???
Crossbow	???
Claw	2.0
Knuckler	???
Gun	1.6

Why the 2h BW has higher multiplier than 2h Axe, I cannot say. Maybe they changed several formulas by +0.01.

Just checked 1H Sword, looks like it's 1.1 as well. 98 max range, 34 atk, 90/(262*.34) is about 1.1, and 55 max range, 19 atk, 55/(262*.19) is also about 1.1

I think it's worth redoing 2H Sword and Axe as well.

I thought the formulas would be one thing they wouldn't keep changing, so they'd be a good place to start. This is going to be annoying.

The accuracy formulae seem to be accurate (except for that 1/0.84; that needs work). And the modifiers for the spear and polearm seem to be the same; estimated at ~1.53 (1.526718 more specific, but isn't round enough, and is only looking at the 41 atk value. Probably would be best to get it to a higher level). Other modifiers seem accurate.

Putting +- limits on the numbers I got (assuming they only round 159.5 ~ 160.5 to 160):
1.4848 ~ 1.4941 - Spear/Polearm
1.2614 ~ 1.2707 - 2h BW
1.0998 ~ 1.10793 - 1h axe/bw

If we do assume they're 2 decimal places, the only possible values are 1.49, 1.27, 1.10 - not sure where 1.53 came from.

Get 2 more screenshot..
Really strange.

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Str:336 Dex:38 Weapon:2H Axe
Weapon ATK=82 total Atk=?
Damage: 1499~2141

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Str:336 Dex:38 Weapon:2H Sword
Weapon ATK=81 total Atk=?
Damage: 1510~2157

then I find the ATK from other gears by change the multiplier
The result is：
other ATK：40
2H Axe：multiplier=1.27 totalATT=122 baseDamage：1498.89~2141.27 round: 1499~2141
2H Sword：multiplier=1.29 totalATT=121 baseDamage：1510.01~2157.164 round: 1510~2157

if the multiplier is 1.28 or 1.26 or others, I can't find a suitable integer as totalATT..

round or floor...

Level 20:

73 STR, 40 DEX

 1H Sword|30~150|41 Att

 1H BW|31~157|43 Att

 2H Sword|38~188|44 Att

 2H Axe|39~194|46 Att

 2H BW|39~194|46 Att

 Pole Arm|46~228|46 Att

2H Axe and 2H BW at 20 have the same attack and result in the same attack range.
I'm gonna try to 100% the 2H sword twice and see what happens.

 2H Sword|39~197|46 Att

Oh and something else of note:
This is on my warrior.

 Before (42.79%)

 After (37.13%)

But after dying in Orbis:

 (27.13%)

Rounding =

Weapon	Multiplier
1h Sword	1.1
1h Blunt	1.1
2h Sword	1.29
2h Axe	1.27
2h Blunt	1.27
Polearm	1.49

I made up a sheet to validate all of your data~~~
I can't see the images from imageshack.us=.= sry...


1h Sword 1.1
1h Blunt 1.1
2h Sword 1.29
2h Axe 1.27
2h Blunt 1.27
Polearm 1.49

None-error

wand/staff really need more screenshot .
while the image which I got from 1.2.318 shows that one of them have the Multiplier of 0.87
and then 1.2.321 formula changes?

Paul just told me about the multipliers. Can I get an for detrimental Magician multipliers? At least we can scroll our earrings for Wep ATT, I suppose

I can't see the images from imageshack.us=.= sry...

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[/URL]
???

My friend take lots of data from KMST

lucky~~~

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teach me how to insert a table T.T
yeah~I get it.

Weapon	P-stat	S-stat	W.att/M.atk	Mastery	Base Damage	Multiplier	Calculated Damage
Bow	414	70	57	15%	170~1131	1.15	169.709~1131.393
Bow	412	70	62	15%	184~1225	1.15	183.740~1224.934
Bow	412	70	67	15%	199~1324	1.15	198.5579~1323.719
CrossBow	412	70	56	65%	844~1299	1.35	844.2252~1298.808
CrossBow	412	70	61	65%	920~1415	1.35	919.6025~1414.773
CrossBow	412	70	66	65%	995~1531	1.35	994.9797~1530.738
Wand	572	80	81	78%	1317~1688	0.88	1316.57~1687.91
Wand	572	80	86	78%	1398~1792	0.88	1397.84~1792.102
Wand	572	80	91	78%	1479~1896	0.88	1479.078~1729.587
Staff	572	80	78	78%	1268~1625	0.88	1267.808~1625.395
Staff	572	80	83	78%	1349~1730	0.88	1349.078~1729.587
Staff	572	80	88	78%	1431~1834	0.88	1430.348~1833.779
Claw	359	128(only dex)	24	15%	113~751	2.00	112.608~750.72
Claw	359	128	26	15%	122~813	2.00	121.992~813.28
Claw	359	128	28	15%	131~876	2.00	131.376~875.84
Dagger	359	132(dex+str)	57	20%	232~1162	1.30	232.3776~1161.888
Dagger	359	132	59	20%	241~1203	1.30	240.5312~1202.656
Dagger	359	132	62	20%	253~1264	1.30	252.7616~1263.808
DualBlade	359	132	102	20%	416~2079	1.30	415.8336~2079.168
DualBlade	359	132	122	70%	1741~2087	1.30	1740.794~2486.848
DualBlade	359	132	127	70%	1812~2589	1.30	1812.138~2588.768
DualBlade	359	132	155	70%	2212~3160	1.30	2211.664~3159.52

only the red part have something error.
I assumed that it may have a special calculate order:
1) calculate the max Damage ,with the stat and weapon Multiplier.
2) round it.
3) multiply rounded Max Damage by mastery, and round it. That is Min Damage.

So 1430.348~1833.779 --> ? ~1834 --> 1834*0.78 ~ 1834 --> 1430.52 ~ 1834 --> 1431 ~ 1834

staff=0.87 seems a bug. It has already repaired.

Since the new critical skill mechanics have it add to the minimum critical damage, that implies that the maximum stays at +50%? What happens when you factor in SE then, which adds +30% critical minimum? Would it cap at +50% critical damage all the time, or would the cap be raised? Or does +x% critical minimum in fact raise your maximum as well?

Also, with the assumption that these skills only raise the minimum and 50% is the cap:
Night Lords: 1974%/s
With SE: 2065%/s
Bow Masters: 1916.7%/s
Corsairs: 2773.8%/s
With SE: 2857.1%/s
lolMarksmen: 1000%/s + 100k/s

Rather steep differences.

Poor Marksmen in this update; unless Bowmen and Crossbowmen get a good multiplier like the other ranged classes.

Paul just told me about the multipliers. Can I get an for detrimental Magician multipliers? At least we can scroll our earrings for Wep ATT, I suppose

You get a lot more Magic Attack from your equips than other classes get Weapon Attack. Your weapons add more and you can get Magic Attack from a lot of sources that Weapon Attack isn't available from, and Blessing adds twice as much Magic Attack. Hell, My 4th job DPS spreadsheet uses Magic Attack values of well over 300 for Mages, and that's under the current system where you're mostly scrolling for INT.

@50504724: Minimum damage is calculated based on the max damage, so that number works. Since when do Magicians have 78% mastery, though? I thought the base was 25%, not 28%. Or is there a 3% coming from something else?

Poor Marksmen in this update; unless Bowmen and Crossbowmen get a good multiplier like the other ranged classes.

Looking at 50504724's results, not really. It does make logical sense that they're lower than Gun and Claw because those two have relatively lower total weapon attack most of the time. The effect of Expert helps this, but in the end it's only what, 10 weapon attack difference since Corsairs have some buff that adds 20 that activates on attack? I've often seen that Corsairs have higher ranges than Bow Masters, and matching ranges with Marksmen, but maybe the funding is just way too different. The high base attack on the Bow/Crossbow is matched by the Gun plus Bullets more often than not. I mean, when we compare the Timeless Bow and Gun, the difference is 23 attack. Eternal Bullets are 20 attack, so in the end, the difference is 3.

only the red part have something error.
I assumed that it may have a special calculate order:
1) calculate the max Damage ,with the stat and weapon Multiplier.
2) round it.
3) multiply rounded Max Damage by mastery, and round it. That is Min Damage.

So 1430.348~1833.779 --> ? ~1834 --> 1834*0.78 ~ 1834 --> 1430.52 ~ 1834 --> 1431 ~ 1834

Makes sense to me:

Code:

int* CalculateDamage(int weaponType, int primaryStat, int secondaryStat)
{
    int maxDamage;
    int minDamage;

    maxDamage = (int) CalculateMaxDamage(weaponType, primaryStat, secondaryStat);
    minDamage = CalculateMinDamage(maxDamage);
}

The max damage gets converted to an integer when returned from CalculateMaxDamage.

Weapon Type	Multiplier
1H Sword	1.10
1H Axe	1.10
1H BW	1.10
Dagger	1.30 (str + dex)
Wand	0.88
Staff	0.88
2H Sword	1.28
2H Axe	1.26
2H BW	1.27
Spear	1.49
Polearm	1.49
Bow	1.15
Crossbow	1.35
Claw	2.00
Knuckler	???
Gun	1.60

Only Knucklers left!