[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben

Flash jump too? Oh, that's big news now...

I miss being the fastest moving class now though D:

...But then again, I still move fast, so I have nothing wrong with it at all. If anything, I miss a "double jump" skill, sometimes.

Uhhh where does it say that Shadower's get Flash Jump? In Fiel's note it doesn't any sign of ' Flash Jump ' being included Shadower's. Only Shadow Partner.

Ohhh currently, well uhh I think many of the users who play NL's or any passive critical having class enjoy the crit damage.. Now the crit damage will barely be any different from the non-crit damage.. Idk i find it quite boring seeing near the same numbers all the time.. Atleast as it is now the numbers vary a lot. And uhhh ok...... for the mage thing? I guess...?

...You focus in on the numbers you're generating when you train? I just attack, attack, attack, attack, attack, etc. Guess it's another reason why Shads level faster I guess.

Uhhh where does it say that Shadower's get Flash Jump? In Fiel's note it doesn't any sign of ' Flash Jump ' being included Shadower's. Only Shadow Partner.

Says that in the Korean extraction tables thread.

No you're wrong, look at the "last edited" by fiel, the timing was today. And read the header notes, it's been updated to 1.2.321

Whoops, my fault. Only read the title >.>

I havent read the whole thread, but im IMPRESSED

EDELSTEIN + LEBEN are german words

Edelstein = jewel in english
leben = to live

But why in hell are Koreans developers using german words o.O

Uhhh where does it say that Shadower's get Flash Jump? In Fiel's note it doesn't any sign of ' Flash Jump ' being included Shadower's. Only Shadow Partner.

Look in this thread.

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=28128&page=1

Whoops, my fault. Only read the title >.>

That's fine. But if however, the data provide is TRUE for Bow Expert Mastery. +WA30 and Concentrate +WA25 and SE 15% chances of 30% xtra dmg and Hurriance +200%....
that would be OMG dmg?

ALSO! Something I've wondered... I THINK I MAY KNOW THE REASON TO WHY THE INCLUDED THE "SKILL FORMULAS" IN THE DATA. What if you got extra levels in a skill by equipment, and you go over it? MAYBE, the game can now calculate the "what if" and simply give you an actual extra level to the skill, even if that level is the 32nd, for example...

Anyone can confirm this?

I havent read the whole thread, but im IMPRESSED

EDELSTEIN + LEBEN are german words

Edelstein = jewel in english
leben = to live

But why in hell are Koreans developers using german words o.O

It's a secret reference to WW 2 and the resistance :O

(loljk if any germans are offended Dx)

...You focus in on the numbers you're generating when you train? I just attack, attack, attack, attack, attack, etc. Guess it's another reason why Shads level faster I guess.



Says that in the Korean extraction tables thread.

I was more talking about bossing numbers but uhh no........ Shadowers train faster because they can afford to cast a +40% Def skill on any mosnter they choose to train on and skill 1-2 hit kill them.. NL cannot afford to do the same, or it drastically slows down your training speed although the exp is more eye appealing.. That is also not to mention the fact that Taunt is awkward for NL's, it doesn't chain with any of our skills like it does for Shadowers.

Say what? come again? I does not compute..? You mean HB mule? Also i've seen TONS TONS TONS TONSSSSSSSSSSS of shadowers tank bf hit thanx to meso guard so idk wutchu talkin bout willis.

Yeah, meant HB mule. I always slip up and say PG whenever Bigfoot comes to mind... And I was talking unwashed Shad's that aren't epicly high level. MG only halves the dmg taken, and 5.5k is still a lot of HP, even for Shads...

ALSO! Something I've wondered... I THINK I MAY KNOW THE REASON TO WHY THE INCLUDED THE "SKILL FORMULAS" IN THE DATA. What if you got extra levels in a skill by equipment, and you go over it? MAYBE, the game can now calculate the "what if" and simply give you an actual extra level to the skill, even if that level is the 32nd, for example...

Anyone can confirm this?

That would be very HunterStory like. Next thing you'll know they'll add the Rebirth system for the low, low, low cost of 100k NX.

That's fine. But if however, the data provide is TRUE for Bow Expert Mastery. +WA30 and Concentrate +WA25 and SE 15% chances of 30% xtra dmg and Hurriance +200%....
that would be OMG dmg?

this is bull...so now BMs, sairs, perhaps shadowers > NLs wow...we getting lol nerfed T_T

lets make this even and change triple throw to quadruple throw
or at least boast us some dmg...260% TT = 780 + sp = 1092%
Hurricane = 200% * 8 = 1600% + all ur crappy wep atk boasts T_T


apparently they nerfed TT...i remember it being 270% now its 260%

ALSO! Something I've wondered... I THINK I MAY KNOW THE REASON TO WHY THE INCLUDED THE "SKILL FORMULAS" IN THE DATA. What if you got extra levels in a skill by equipment, and you go over it? MAYBE, the game can now calculate the "what if" and simply give you an actual extra level to the skill, even if that level is the 32nd, for example...

Anyone can confirm this?

Good point, something worth noting, becuz Reverse Eqs does give your main attacking skills (5% chances of getting it) gaining +1 SP.

I was more talking about bossing numbers but uhh no........ Shadowers train faster because they can afford to cast a +40% Def skill on any mosnter they choose to train on and skill 1-2 hit kill them.. NL cannot afford to do the same, or it drastically slows down your training speed although the exp is more eye appealing.. That is also not to mention the fact that Taunt is awkward for NL's, it doesn't chain with any of our skills like it does for Shadowers.

Hold on...

Guess it's another reason why Shads level faster I guess.

I was saying NL's could probably lvl a little faster if they weren't so DMG absorbed...

this is bull...so now BMs, sairs, perhaps shadowers > NLs wow...we getting lol nerfed T_T

... So you do know that Triple Throw is 260% and even with the new SP your DPS literally got well over doubled. That's assuming formula's haven't gotten decreased.

Say what? come again? I does not compute..? You mean HB mule? Also i've seen TONS TONS TONS TONSSSSSSSSSSS of shadowers tank bf hit thanx to meso guard so idk wutchu talkin bout willis.
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only washed shadowers can tank bf tho (or the ones that using hb mule which is more possible, not many ppl wash to 6k+ and thats what you need to be safe (sometimes even more if ure dexless shad)) but ya there's more shadowers than nls that bf.(non washed shad can only dream about bfing since even with some decent hp eq he would get to like 5.5k hp max which is still not enough -around 4.8-4.9k is what unwashed thief have @ 200-
(just clearing that up)

Hold on...



I was saying NL's could probably lvl a little faster if they weren't so DMG absorbed...

I understand what you are saying, but that is exactly my point. They will not train any faster if they weren't damage absorbed because they're damn weak. NL is pathetic without SE and even so like i stated NL's cannot afford to throw taunt around like shadowers do because of the reasons listed above.. As well as poor mobbing, that doesn't add onto it.

only washed shadowers can tank bf tho (or the ones that using hb mule which is more possible) but ya there's more shadowers than nls that bf.(non washed shad can only dream about bfing since even with some decent hp eq he would get to like 5.5k hp max which is still not enough -around 4.8-4.9k is what unwashed thief have @ 200-
(just clearing that up)

Even without tank, you can m/e it. As well as use the bstep walk approach like how NL's have to do with their TT, only it's ridiculously easier for Shadowers.

This is the first time, in all the years that I've been playing MapleStory, that I can really say All the jobs are balanced now.

Those complaining about Shadowers/Buccaneers range or about NL's dmg, suck it up.

... So you do know that Triple Throw is 260% and even with the new SP your DPS literally got well over doubled. That's assuming formula's haven't gotten decreased.

our crit is gone...our damage isnt that good. Everyones getting buffed....while nexon looks at NLs they smile and gives us this 260% TT and then they laugh while they turn our 200% crit to 10% crit T_T