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Corsair's Elemental Boost?
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I'm confused at what it does. To my understanding, all it does is make your Ice Splitter/Flamethrower Skill stronger as well as making the ice longer, but does Elemental Boost affect how much damage you do while you're attacking a frozen monster? If not, why should this skill get 1 SP at lv120 instead of Cannon?
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#2
No. The first point increases the amount of time monsters are frozen from 3 to 4 seconds (5 with the upcoming balance patch), which is far more important than one point in Cannon. Cannon is hardly stronger than Burst Fire until you have 11 points in it.

Elemental Boost's effects:
- Increased freeze length
- Increased burn DoT
- Increased Flamethrower damage
- Increased Ice Splitter damage

The most useful effect here is the freeze length. You just need one SP to get the first boost. I would leave it at level 1 until you max all the more important skills, like Cannon, Ship, Torpedo, MW, and Air Strike.
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#3
And really, by the time you've maxed more important things you won't even need the extra freeze time (In 99% of situations anyway) since you'll be killing mobs too quickly for it to matter.
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#4
Will the new upgrades to elemental amp, increase the freeze time to 4 at 1pt and then 5sec at max? Or 5sec at 1pt?Glitter
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DeeD Wrote:Will the new upgrades to elemental amp, increase the freeze time to 4 at 1pt and then 5sec at max? Or 5sec at 1pt?Glitter

It's currently 4 secs at level 1 and 5 secs at level 16. With the update it'll be 5 secs at level 1 and 7 secs at level 16.
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Dusk Wrote:It's currently 4 secs at level 1 and 5 secs at level 16. With the update it'll be 5 secs at level 1 and 7 secs at level 16.

maxed is fun tho Big Grin people say its crap and dont waste ur points but i would totallllly suggest going it before liek Air strike, much more effective in training i found. say u need to freeze a mob then cannon a monster 2 times ur cannon deals on average 65K damage... and ur lvl 1 elemental boost does say..... 10K.... you would nearly never kill em with 1 cannon butttt if you got maxedout elemental boost you could be looking at upwards of 20-30K freeze shots and that coupled with ur say 65K cannons.. you would be looking @ ohkoing with cannon a lot more Big Grin who needs a weak ass mob of birds who take 4-5(4-5 nexon seconds) to respawn and ur going to max out boost in the end anyways cause hypnotize is total crap
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fiftyschmooo Wrote:maxed is fun tho Big Grin people say its crap and dont waste ur points but i would totallllly suggest going it before liek Air strike, much more effective in training i found.
My Skele-Strike training begs to differ. Not that Elemental Boost isn't an amazing skill, I just feel Air Strike deserves priority. Besides, your example isn't terribly common and doesn't account for Torpedo usage.
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KaidaTan Wrote:My Skele-Strike training begs to differ. Not that Elemental Boost isn't an amazing skill, I just feel Air Strike deserves priority. Besides, your example isn't terribly common and doesn't account for Torpedo usage.

Actually, Elemental Boost is great with Torpedo. It usually results in needing 1 Torpedo less to do the job.
The example you gave there looks like fun, but why would you train like that in the 1st place? It doesn't really seem viable to me unless you 1hit the skeles with AS. But lLast time I checked skeles was: mage = top 3 plats, atker = bottom plat. In that case Air Strike is pretty useless compared to Ele Boost.
I would say definitely say Ele Boost helps more during training than Air Strike.
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#9
I think Air Strike would be much more helpful for training than more points into Elemental Boost. The common argument seems to be that more damage onto Ice Splitter would require less attacks for killing monsters around you. While that's certainly a plausible idea, what if you didn't even have to go near those monsters in the first place? That's what AS is for. You don't even have to go up to hit those monsters in the first place, you can 1-2 hit KO them from below. And to Daddy20's remark about training at skeles, not everyone always trains there with a mage.
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Daddy20 Wrote:Actually, Elemental Boost is great with Torpedo. It usually results in needing 1 Torpedo less to do the job.
The example you gave there looks like fun, but why would you train like that in the 1st place? It doesn't really seem viable to me unless you 1hit the skeles with AS. But lLast time I checked skeles was: mage = top 3 plats, atker = bottom plat. In that case Air Strike is pretty useless compared to Ele Boost.
I would say definitely say Ele Boost helps more during training than Air Strike.
In the video, I was 2-hitting the skeles and I was training just fine. I don't know why people think mages have to be at the top -- they're really good at the bottom too. And if your mage is actually taking 3 platforms while you're only taking one, it doesn't really matter much what you use because it'll be easy and fast anyway. If you're taking the bottom two, then you can pretty much do the same thing I did except on the bottom instead of the top.

And Ele Boost isn't nearly as helpful to those of us who spend most of our time in Oblivion.
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Daddy20 Wrote:Actually, Elemental Boost is great with Torpedo. It usually results in needing 1 Torpedo less to do the job.

Just curious, do you 1 hit skeles with torp + high level ele boost, or rather, did it take it to 1HKO when you did toss points into it?
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PonyArcade Wrote:Just curious, do you 1 hit skeles with torp + high level ele boost, or rather, did it take it to 1HKO when you did toss points into it?
I'm pretty sure I'm stronger than him, and I'm still a long long way from being that strong, even if I had max ele boost. Heck, I can't even 2HKO them with Torp all of the time (but I'm close). However, when I would have maxed Air Strike (187/188), I'd be OHKOing the strong skeles with Air Strike over 35% of the time.
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KaidaTan Wrote:In the video, I was 2-hitting the skeles and I was training just fine. I don't know why people think mages have to be at the top -- they're really good at the bottom too. And if your mage is actually taking 3 platforms while you're only taking one, it doesn't really matter much what you use because it'll be easy and fast anyway. If you're taking the bottom two, then you can pretty much do the same thing I did except on the bottom instead of the top.

And Ele Boost isn't nearly as helpful to those of us who spend most of our time in Oblivion.

Yes mages are good at the bottom, probably the best actually, but the exp is simply better at the top: you can kill 3 (iirc) skeles more there. I've trained long enough to know this. And true, if you are only taking the bottom plat it doesn't really matter what skill you max since you just spam cannon left and right.

I do spend most of my lvls at oblivion actually, I've been there for 50+ lvls now.
And at oblivion, AS can only aid you either by luring or by finishing a mob when you're not on your ship. AS isn't strong enough to kill anything on it's own, you still need to go over to the guards and torp/cannon them.

KaidaTan Wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm stronger than him, and I'm still a long long way from being that strong, even if I had max ele boost. Heck, I can't even 2HKO them with Torp all of the time (but I'm close). However, when I would have maxed Air Strike (187/188), I'd be OHKOing the strong skeles with Air Strike over 35% of the time.

Yea you are stronger than me, for now at least Tongue
Killing a skele with freeze + 1 torp happens, but it's quite uncommon.
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#14
Ok thanks for the info ^^

So if it would take such a big improvement to one hit skele with torp then I don't think ele boost would be worth it if you can already 100% one hit cannon/ 2 hit torp.

I am tempted to put more points in hypnotize then, doing things like hypnotizing your very own iron hog champion in pig beach is really far more entertaining than it should be <.<
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