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yeah, nexon can do whatever. from a business point of view, a one week rollback would probably equal a lot of lost revenue. i myself max out the 150$ paypal limit of nexon cash per month as well as much more by paybycash usually totalling around 300,000 NX a month. if they rolled me back to 81 i would leave the game - too frustrating.
and about the KSing .. it's a boss, whether the data says so or not. when i see a bigfoot, i mist it. i don't look for who is on the map doing 1k damage with their arrow rain. why? because if i don't mist it, another f/p will and then i lose my chance. just take it in stride, friend. every man for themself, especially with such godly exp.
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Lost revenue how? Everyone would have their NX, 2x cards would be refunded/extended, and so on. Heck, they could even extend the expiration date of all current NX by a whole week.
The only lost revenue I see is a few people getting really pissed about a week rollback of training and quitting and then not buying any NX anymore.
I don't know how long it took you, but I'll just take a guess. You're fine with putting 4 months to get to 81, but lose a week of "godly" training and you want to quit? Doesn't make much sense to me. :/
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NoJobNoRules Wrote:"Loads of people"? Seriously, I doubt that "Loads of people" are going to quit with a week setback. If they keep everything aside from exp/levels the same (all Yellonde chars would just be back at level 1 with all of their current items so nicks won't be changed or w/e), I really doubt people are going to quit over it.
The only kind of "proof" that I found as far as it being any sort of "glitch" is that TiaraYellonde(GM) smega'd saying that those abusing a glitch to get the top ranks wouldn't go unpunished. I can't see ANY feasible thing except to rollback the exp.
IMO, they never said a boss monster CAN'T be affected by things like poison, shadow web, etc. It is their game, and they CAN edit what counts as a "boss".
Personally, knock the exp to either 250k or 500k, remove Shadow Web and other effects, and leave Poison Mist and Doom. That way FPs finally have a boss to hunt after not having one, the exp would be mediocre(killing 8 with reduction would be same as 1 now), and everyone would be...less...ticked?
I guess they could just rollback FPs/Hermits, but I don't think that sounds completely fair. :/
if they were to lower the exp, it would only be fair to lower the hp of it as well. In the QA thread, someone asked how they would go about poisoning BF, so they are not going to remove that from it. The shadow web damage (i have a SS of someone doing 1 mil damage with it) is a real big problem. The glitch with poison mist just needs to have the damage dealt lowered to a way more reasonable damage rate.
As for the levels gained by F/P mages/NLs/Hermits by these glitches...selective rollbacks are possible, and they should be implanted, if people quit just because they gained x amount of levels because of a glitch that they knew about, then they shouldnt even be playing in the first place.
jasejase Wrote:and about the KSing .. it's a boss, whether the data says so or not. when i see a bigfoot, i mist it. i don't look for who is on the map doing 1k damage with their arrow rain. why? because if i don't mist it, another f/p will and then i lose my chance. just take it in stride, friend. every man for themself, especially with such godly exp.
this pissed me off big time. You think that just because its a boss, and just because your a F/P mage that is abusing a glitch, that it is god given duty to Poison Mist the damn thing when someone else is already killing it. Thats like me coming to your house, killing your pets, and saying "well, i needed the food that your pets could give to me" thats completely sad for you to say something like that, and id be willing to bet that without this glitch, you would have stayed below level 100 and quit. so GFYS.
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it's not really a glitch though. and i'm guilty for calling it that. nexon made it poisonable. for example, if i am just misting jr wraiths (ha ha ha) like an innocent f/p, i can't be blamed if a bigfoot walks through and then gives me 5,300,000 exp. even if it happened lots of times.
fun fact: i have 100 bigfoot toes. even after helping 61 people get their own at no cost over the course of today.
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jasejase Wrote:it's not really a glitch though. and i'm guilty for calling it that. nexon made it poisonable. for example, if i am just misting jr wraiths (ha ha ha) like an innocent f/p, i can't be blamed if a bigfoot walks through and then gives me 5,300,000 exp. even if it happened lots of times.
fun fact: i have 100 bigfoot toes. even after helping 61 people get their own at no cost over the course of today.
how is "showing healing, but actually taking massive amounts of damage off the monster" not a glitch? you would have to be retarded (which means you probably dont even know how to use a keyboard) to not think "hay! noww dats nott right mister! DEE DEE DEE"
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jasejase Wrote:it's not really a glitch though. and i'm guilty for calling it that. nexon made it poisonable. for example, if i am just misting jr wraiths (ha ha ha) like an innocent f/p, i can't be blamed if a bigfoot walks through and then gives me 5,300,000 exp. even if it happened lots of times.
fun fact: i have 100 bigfoot toes. even after helping 61 people get their own at no cost over the course of today.
you're knowingly abusing the glitch to your own advantage, so you ARE guilty...
it's like saying "i didn't break into the house the door was just unlocked, the owner of the house didn't lock their door so it's their fault!!"
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right, but i'm not killing it on purpose. i'm misting my jr wraiths and it keeps walking through!
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Sn1perJohnE Wrote:how is "showing healing, but actually taking massive amounts of damage off the monster" not a glitch? you would have to be retarded (which means you probably dont even know how to use a keyboard) to not think "hay! noww dats nott right mister! DEE DEE DEE"
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i officially hate all the stupid low level f/p catching up to my level, this sucks not only to me but to every other f/p that had to go through HELL to get to their level, coughsharkscough.
I shun those who took advantage of this.
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jasejase Wrote:right, but i'm not killing it on purpose. i'm misting my jr wraiths and it keeps walking through! Yes, because all level whatever the hell level you are F/P Mages go around training at Jr. Wraiths for days.
I'm hoping anyone that abused any glitch to be banned for a week or have their character reseted to minutes after the patch. This kinda reminds me of the Glitch Orbis PQ, many morons running around, screeching "its not a glitch lol".
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well, i levelled a f/p to 138 on maplesea if that counts .. when half the things that exist now to make training better didn't exist. i know my way around sharks all too well.
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Well, I'm sure Nexon has logs and all that, so maybe a banbanban for them all? MUAHAHAHA!
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Loose Wrote:Yes, because all level whatever the hell level you are F/P Mages go around training at Jr. Wraiths for days.
I'm hoping anyone that abused any glitch to be banned for a week or have their character reseted to minutes after the patch. This kinda reminds me of the Glitch Orbis PQ, many morons running around, screeching "its not a glitch lol".
the opq glitch was a glitch because the instructions clearly stated that is not how it is meant to work. poisoning monsters is perfectly okay. we can't be blamed if nexon made them poisonable. seriously.
EDIT: now you're getting stupid. ban for this? it's their fault for letting it be poisonable. for all we know, idiots, it was on purpose. there is nothing to suggest it is an accident. stop being so jealous!
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Davidkun Wrote:You sir, win the internet.
is this a good thing? :O
jasejase Wrote:the opq glitch was a glitch because the instructions clearly stated that is not how it is meant to work. poisoning monsters is perfectly okay. we can't be blamed if nexon made them poisonable. seriously.
like i said before, "showing healling but taking damage = sometins wong here!" and the Jr. Wraith excuse wouldnt work on GMs, considering they HAVE to have some bit of intelligence to even work there.
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Sn1perJohnE Wrote:is this a good thing? :O
Depends... the internet has almost evvvvvvvvvverythiiiiiiing. What do you think?
@Jase: So what you're saying is that a game company as big as nexon can't make a mistake like this? They made a whole new batch of monsters obviously there will be FLAWS... and I remember a buddy of mine saying NxProse hadn't known that is was poisonable.
Also didn't SniperJohn say that it had shown blue numbers instead of orange/yellow numbers meaning that Poison was SUPPOSE TO HEAL IT not hurt it?
I don't know, but it just seems like you're pulling crap out of your ass and spewing it on your computer making it type whatever you pulled out.
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well, i'm saying, there is no solid proof we set out to kill bigfoots. lots of people will suggest oj simpson is a murderer, but there was no solid proof so he was let off.
also, the healing damage thing applies to all high hp monsters that can be poisoned. it is not exclusive to bigfoot - it is an in game error that nexon has never fixed. it has nothing, and i repeat nothing, to do with whether or not bigfoots were intended to be poisoned or not. it was an error before bigfoots existed.
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Gotta bring TiaraYellond into this conversation
TIAAAAAAAAAARAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Tiara: Yes?
Me: Say what you said in Yellonde earlier!
Since this glitch is the only glitch that would make a GM actually say something like this, I assume that it IS bannable and they sent a threat out to it's BF glitch abusers!
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jasejase Wrote:EDIT: now you're getting stupid. ban for this? it's their fault for letting it be poisonable. for all we know, idiots, it was on purpose. there is nothing to suggest it is an accident. stop being so jealous! Keep your pants on, partner. I never said that poisoning/webbing Big Foot was a glitch. That's for Nexon to decide.
Also, why would I be jealous? You should really stop making stuff up and get some basic reading comprehension skills, man.
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well for one, tiaras smegas were only on yellonde.
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jasejase Wrote:well, i'm saying, there is no solid proof we set out to kill bigfoots. lots of people will suggest oj simpson is a murderer, but there was no solid proof so he was let off.
also, the healing damage thing applies to all high hp monsters that can be poisoned. it is not exclusive to bigfoot - it is an in game error that nexon has never fixed. it has nothing, and i repeat nothing, to do with whether or not bigfoots were intended to be poisoned or not. it was an error before bigfoots existed.
Well, wasn't the evidence in the OJ trial against him until the verdict was reached? It wasn't anyone's fault (other than the judge) that he was let off so suddenly.
And as for the high HP monster deal, I have not heard of any "high HP" monster that can actually be affected by Poison/Shadow Web in the manner that you say it does. Don't even the highest level non-boss monsters have only like 100-200k HP at most?
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