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Sorry if this is not what this forum is for...
Im new, and I see alot of higher leveld people not wearing thieir class'/level's equips. high level buccs using white fangs, 4th jobbers using bathrobes, and Ive never seen a high leveled pirate using any overall except for a bathrobe.
Why is this?
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Less stat (STR/DEX/INT/LUK) requirements. Less SP being put into secondary stats = more into primary = more damage.
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Ok, I have a few more questions. I hope I dont sound like Im trying to prove you wrong.
Ill use brawlers as an example ( since i am one) Wont the atk advantage + the stats that reverse knuckle will give you make it worth it?
Also overall wise. Zhelm would give at least 15 dex, and MoN would give 10 more, thats at lease 45 dex supposing you use no other dex equips. Thats enough to wear a Red barnaby, which gives 10 HP, 4 STR, and 45 weapon def.
That means by using no extra equips for dex specifically, just by upgrading, you get 4 STR for free. Why is this?
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2010-03-04, 04:37 PM
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Them be stat whores, and
O RLY?
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^-- My character. Base 20 DEX, but I got a Reverse weapon and 110 overall.
KupoCannon Wrote:Ok, I have a few more questions. I hope I dont sound like Im trying to prove you wrong.
Ill use brawlers as an example ( since i am one) Wont the atk advantage + the stats that reverse knuckle will give you make it worth it?
Depends. If the person can land many 10%s/30%s they may just stick to the non-reverse knuckle because they can't afford more DEX equipment.
Also overall wise. Zhelm would give at least 15 dex, and MoN would give 10 more, thats at lease 45 dex supposing you use no other dex equips. Thats enough to wear a Red barnaby, which gives 10 HP, 4 STR, and 45 weapon def.
That means by using no extra equips for dex specifically, just by upgrading, you get 4 STR for free. Why is this?
This is making the most of 2ndary stat boosts in order to boost your main stat more. Example is exactly this. It's pretty much getting the most out of your stats that you gain from equipment. Also, you forgot the 15 STR from the Zakum Helm, and 5 STR+10 attack from the MoN. Those are damage boosters too.
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I'd say, for the most part, it's planning ahead and just sticking with what you can use while keeping your secondary stat lower so that you don't have to use SP resets later and have to pay up an arm and a leg. That's how I see it anyway.
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For the weapon thing, lvl100 weps are easy to make meaning easy to mass scroll
Most people can't afford to mass make reverse/dragon weapons
When you can land more 30s on a lower lvl item through lots of trials it can come out better then a higher lvl wep that you only used 60s on -- plus lower stat reqs
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Because defense is useless. If defense had any use, people would be using higher level equips as they give more defense. Its only helpful in the very early lvls. But since it isn't, people choose low level equips since they have a lower secondary stat requirement, which leads to more points put into their primary stats and a higher damage.
L> defense Revamp
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byakugan Wrote:L> defense Revamp
This.
It's stupid how useless defence is in Maple. IMO, it should be incredibly useful instead of HP equips. I doubt we would get a revamp 'cos then Nexon will lose money from people HP Washing.
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Because Maplestory's armor and stat system is retarded.
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byakugan Wrote:Because defense is useless. If defense had any use, people would be using higher level equips as they give more defense. Its only helpful in the very early lvls. But since it isn't, people choose low level equips since they have a lower secondary stat requirement, which leads to more points put into their primary stats and a higher damage.
L> defense Revamp
but what about the 4 free str?
lol but seriously.. its cuz if you scroll a bathrobe, every class can use it, but a pirate overall is in much less demand.
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KupoCannon Wrote:high level buccs using white fangs
Pretty fail buccs you've seen.
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Lol, only 2 had fangs, 3 had king cents, and 1 had dragon.
Quote:Because Maplestory's armor and stat system is retarded.
No offence, and I hope you dont take this the wrong way, but It seems good to me. 1 stat determines damage, 1 lets you wear equips
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FelixTM Wrote:Because Maplestory's armor and stat system is retarded.
This basically. It's silly how the way to get the most damage out of your equips all the way to level 200 is to wear alot of stuff that any random level 50 could wear. Maplestory lacks REAL end-game equips specific to each class.
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The reason people use low-levelled equipments is because they're easier to equip, and you can easily have godly scrolled equipments if the equipment has a low requirement. Where as the higher levelled the requirement, the more attack / mag att it gives, as well as demanding more of a 2ndary stat. People pick the 1st option. Why? Because Nexon doesn't know how to work their own defense formula. Defense means absolutely nothing in this game. There's so such thing as a tank in Maple Story. People will make 30k HP classes/characters just to seem unique, but that is useless anyways, because the formula sucks monkey-dick.
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i use lv 120 overall and weapon.
then again i am fail so.....
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byakugan Wrote:L> defense Revamp
Didnt we have a defense revamp a while ago where the bigger the difference between your equips' level requirement and your level, the more damage monsters do? then again, it wasnt a significant amount to make a difference.
As for the original question, people mainly use common class equips (ex. bathrobes) because they can be used on multiple classes/all classes, meaning that if you have more than one character, it'd be cheaper to just buy one set of equips that your warrior, thief, and archer can all use (Dex bathrobe, facestompers, dex earrings, attack cape) instead of buying an overall for each. That, and well scrolled bathrobes are also easier to find than a well scrolled level 50 pirate overall, as more people scroll bathrobes, resulting in more supply.
I think Nexon had the right idea when they made that 3 atk/5 str clean warrior level 80 (?) cape, but they havent continued that idea since.
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