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Sarah Wrote:Sorry, I thought it was clear. It is easily trackable because I highly doubt the people mass-attacking accounts were changing IPs each time the logged onto an account. Look at all of the reports of being hacked, look at who accessed their accounts, look for similar IP accesses between them, track IP and report them to the proper authorities, reimburse account owner.
This would ensure that only people who were effected by the massive attack were dealt with. Some people would be missed, of course, but it's still a better plan of action than what they're currently doing which is nothing. Errrr, I was talking about MOST cases. I'm sure the mass hackings that have been occurring will be VERY easily trackable, but the random, everyday hacks would be very difficult to deal with.
I completely understood that you were talking about the mass hackings. Sorry, I should've made myself more clear.
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Consider me officially quitting. Truly sad. I don't know how Nexon can pull themselves out of that pickle.
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y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:the random, everyday hacks would be very difficult to deal with.
thats because the random everyday hacks are almost always the owners fault. keylog, phishing, account sharing.
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y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Errrr, I was talking about MOST cases. I'm sure the mass hackings that have been occurring will be VERY easily trackable, but the random, everyday hacks would be very difficult to deal with.
I completely understood that you were talking about the mass hackings. Sorry, I should've made myself more clear.
Clearly you didn't get what I was saying because I'm only talking about people hacked through the epidemic. People who get hacked through faults of their with no trace backs wouldn't/don't deserve to be reimbursed. At least not as much as people like Eos and Fumni who didn't do anything wrong.
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Sarah Wrote:Clearly you didn't get what I was saying because I'm only talking about people hacked through the epidemic. People who get hacked through faults of their with no trace backs wouldn't/don't deserve to be reimbursed. At least not as much as people like Eos and Fumni who didn't do anything wrong.
Although I was technically hacked on my bishop, the hacker was only on my account for one minute before he got scared, and I didn't lose anything on it. I did check my bandit recently (mostly to spy on a certain someone who is taking his sweet ass time to get to lvl 200  ) to find out she was hacked, but the hackers took ~500k in mesos (basically all her mesos) and one pair of steelies, while leaving a female sauna robe with 10 clean slots on it, all my other stars and a black phoenix shield :f6:
For me, it isn't even about getting my stuff back; it's that I trusted Nexon to keep my account safe, and I did everything within reason on my end to do so. Yet a breach occurred.
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Sarah Wrote:At least not as much as people like Eos and Fumni who didn't do anything wrong.
I'd say trusting nexon with your money and personal information is a pretty big mistake personally. Not necessarily wrong, just unwise. None of my accounts are registered under my name, or other information, because of exactly this kind of problem.
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2010-02-28, 10:07 PM
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Sarah Wrote:Clearly you didn't get what I was saying because I'm only talking about people hacked through the epidemic. People who get hacked through faults of their with no trace backs wouldn't/don't deserve to be reimbursed. At least not as much as people like Eos and Fumni who didn't do anything wrong. Except there's people like me who had randomly generate passwords on everything (except for things such as forums. Meh. If I get hacked on a forums, I'm pretty sure I can trust that my account will be "safe"), except my email was still hacked into, my password on Maple reset using that email and my PIN reset as well.
Not everyone who's hacked is hacked due to their own faults.
Speaking of emails, there's also the MSN exploit that was around a while ago, the Gmail exploit, the AOL exploit.....
>.>
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y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Except there's people like me who had randomly generate passwords on everything (except for things such as forums. Meh. If I get hacked on a forums, I'm pretty sure I can trust that my account will be "safe"), except my email was still hacked into, my password on Maple reset using that email and my PIN reset as well.
Not everyone who's hacked is hacked due to their own faults.
Speaking of emails, there's also the MSN exploit that was around a while ago, the Gmail exploit, the AOL exploit.....
>.>
Then you would be able to be reimbursed? Someone who had a different IP than you would have logged onto your account and by tracking/grouping common IPs accessed on accounts of people who were attacked, Nexon would be able to bring justice to you. Hypothetically.*
*the hypothetical here being that they actually do something at all, not that they find your attacker which is obvious now that they could do.
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Sarah Wrote:Then you would be able to be reimbursed? Someone who had a different IP than you would have logged onto your account and by tracking/grouping IDs of people who were attacked, Nexon would be able to bring justice to you. Hypothetically.*
*the hypothetical here being that they actually do something at all, not that they find your attacker which is obvious now that they could do. Mhmmm.
Now the retarded thing I did was, I should've looked at the IP logs on my Gmail account to see what IP hacked my account, but unfortunately by the time I realized I should do that, the IP log of the person who had hacked me had already disappeared. Stupid Gmail only showing the last 5 logins. >.>
A funnier fact about it all: I got hacked the day I came back from my 3 month hiatus. I attempted to log on my gmail account that morning before logging on Maple for the first time in 3 months, only to find out that my password didn't work. I reset my password, logged on my account, saw some emails about PIN and password resets...and yeah.
I had thought about sending in a ticket about it, but decided against it. Chances are I wouldn't be reimbursed for it.
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Sarah Wrote:Nexon would be able to bring justice to you. Hypothetically.*
its obvious, IMO,now that unless you're level 200 or someone higher leveled you probably wont be reimbursed with items.
3 people i know of in Broa that did it:
TuffGai, was level 171 or so I think and got items/char remade (this was long ago when 17x was considered high leveled)
Belisema, was 19x and got char/items all remade as well (about a year ago)
Crazynomad/Mewtwoooooo, level 200, gets all his items back and his char unbanned. (he requested it to be banned)
There was also the story of silverbg2 in Scania being hacked and getting his items back awhile ago (not his recent hacking), but im unsure of that one.
Maybe it's just because they were more pessimistic against Nexon to get their stuff back because of their high level, but I don't think Nexon would be bothered by a level 9x character losing their stuff from some way that wasn't their fault.
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Bribery Wrote:Wow, what a week of Nexon fail.
1. Item dupes
2. People locked out of their accounts
3. GM gets hacked
I really can't recall a time Nexon failed this hard.
nexon world wide? because they have failed harder. lol
this is just proof that i might have been right.
Nexon needs to offer a manditory gm class and a training of the system on a dummy server. this could havebeen worse than it was.
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[Maple Tip] Posting your login information in an event notice may lead to your account being hacked and disiplinary actions.
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To end all speculation, I've spoken with the devil himself.
His msn apparently isn't a big secret at all: hackerecko@hotmail.com. Feel free to contact him if you want to ask him yourself.
Following text format is as follows:
Question
His answer
Did you hack RavenSCA?
depends what you consider hacking
How did you get his information?
the dummy posted it on the marquee
If the info was in the marquee, how were you able to be the first to login?
i wasn't. in fact, i wasn't even online for a good hour n 30min after 2x started so i guess it was up there for awhile
Why didn't anyone else "hack" it?
beats me
How long did it take you to "hack" it?
1-2min
To your knowledge, did anyone else know about the information?
funny part is, i signed on and my friends/guildies whispered me right away telling me about it. they skipped their 2x trying to guess the pin for a good hour or so
So it had a pin?
yea
How about a PIC
yea
How did you get around it? Cracked it?
i reset it
So you hacked the email?
nah
So how did you reset it
same way i reset everyone's pin. what is this 21 questions?
I'm not asking how you do it, but in brief, what happens to the pin?
basically, with a login id, i can reset any pw and have the resetted pw sent to my own email. once i have both id and pw, i can send a reset url to my own email. viola
What were you able to do on the account?
pineapple off you ask too many questions
Lol, can I post this on southperry?
what's that
A form. Can I?
go ahead
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If that is true, then wow. Fail PICs are fail.
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y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:If that is true, then wow. Fail PICs are fail.
um buddy that isnt a pic fail thats general security fail on nexons half
basically pics are strong. the weak chain in the link is what fails.
if he had said pic cracker or pic overide or pic skipper then id be pomegranatetin myself but thats nexons flaw
now when they decide to fix sed flaw id be happy. times like these if i were nexon id hire the "notorious hackers for a week" and secure the systems.
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yeesh. i stop playing for a week to study for midterms and al hell breaks loose. I always miss the fun stuff >=(
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Somehow I sorta like this Ecko guy... He gaves a new meaning of security to NEXON. That they still sucks!
But I still still be on Nexon team. Go Nexon! Show Ecko That you can do better. By the time you OWN Ecko! Thats when this game worth buying NX card to play for!
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i think because nexon was swimming in money they thought "hey lets give a gm acount for free what harm could it do. "a few banned ppl? they get banned for glitches anyways
, goodly items? we will reset them in a week, ah a month, ah "soon" .
as you see its not like they will get less money for nx for giving away a gm acount since they cant make any new contant they rather make more chaos.
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Just a possibility but maybe if Nexon got involved with a company like YG.com and approved certain third party sights and allowed them to trade accounts or items or things like that then there wouldn't be need to go to third party sights for maple related stuff where they might get key logged.
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