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Devil Wrote:Don't get this wrong but:
*Stuff*
You forgot the extra inventory space we need to buy in order to old all those potions and/or ammo ;D
Holy Hell at their ranges o_O their minimum range is twice that of my maximum range.
Nice job at beating the Bean tho o_o
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Devil Wrote:Don't get this wrong but:
1. Pink Bean has already massively been killed on Pservers.
2. With all that HP-Washing (paying Nexon to cheat with your HP without losing damage, like blood builds) those people are not different then Pserver players.
1. yeah those perfectly scrolls equips, rebirths, 30k hp, 30k MP, 1xxx times drop & exp Pservers can be faily compared to a real MS.
2. Except they had to pay real money, buy/wear int equips, level legitly with a normal rate, and be limited to olny 200 levels.
3. Yeah and we have an item that gives us 100+ Att... you wanna discredit every HT & Zakum fight as well?
P.S.
Can I assume the ranges posted are post-buffs?
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Spideyjvc Wrote:No, but you shouldn't have to drop so much money into the game just to survive. Don't use the MTS card, because even with MTS you wouldn't be able to hardcore wash like that if you didn't prepare your character in its early Maple career with INT equips.
I wouldn't use the MTS a cop-out, I know for a fact that it's not easy to amass huge amounts of NX through it without spending a lot first. I also think HP washing is bullpomegranate.
However, I think that in any online game if you want to be the best and get to that ultimate level you're going to need to make some sacrifices. In maples case, it's either working staggeringly hard to level/make money/scroll perfect equips or it's going to be buying your way to fame. I would personally choose the former, but I don't see having NX equips lessening their achievement. They still had to work damn hard to survive and to beat PB. Yes it was NX assisted, point is: so what? As long as no one cheated, who cares. We've got just as many ridiculous advantages here in GMS that you either need to buy your way through or work hard to access. It's exactly the same.
Also, iirc Devil is one of the most washed players in any version of maple ever. I don't see how he can complain about them spending money when he is no better in that sense.
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Anyone care to explain their dmg ranges? As far as I know, MW30 doesn't affect the +90stats so it can't really be counted here. Are White Scrolls available in jMS? Because without it, an average claw in gMS can still heavily outdo a Japanese Reverse Lampion PLUS the dexless part. Do not comprehend.
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Kalovale Wrote:Anyone care to explain their dmg ranges? As far as I know, MW30 doesn't affect the +90stats so it can't really be counted here. Are White Scrolls available in jMS? Because without it, an average claw in gMS can still heavily outdo a Japanese Reverse Lampion PLUS the dexless part. Do not comprehend.
No White Scrolls in JMS. We only have Clean Slate scrolls.
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TKWizard Wrote:Oh, I managed to get their list of members, levels, HP and Damage ranges.
Here you go.
[Buccaneer]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 196 | 19300 | 8300~14824 | | 190 | 19824 | 7236~13157 |
[Hero/Paladin]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 199 | 28000 | 9820~17796 | | 194 | 27468 | 8889~16208 | | 196 | 30000 | 8426~15297 | | 200 | Unknown | 7399~13492 | | 179 | 20032 | 6365~11522 |
[Dark Knight]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 200 | 20104 | 7018~15758 | | 181 | 21018 | 6627~14935 |
[Bowmaster/Marksman]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 200 | 15429 | 11673~14290 | | 180 | 12166 | 10837~13294 | | 186 | 13958 | 8769~10746 | | 192 | 11000 | 7500~9200 | | 200 | 7747 | 8376~10246 | | 183 | 6330 | 8090~9900 |
[Night Lord]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 188 | 13720 | 7964~14045 | | 200 | 9324 | 7738~13694 | | 200 | 12000 | 6865~12160 | | 200 | 12000 | 6789~12040 | | 190 | 8500 | 6728~11881 | | 193 | 18943 | 6702~11841 | | 186 | 15000 | 6275~11113 | | 196 | 8500 | 6192~10901 | | 189 | 9663 | 5502~9701 | | 200 | 6199 | 6198~10909 | | 190 | 5897 | 6080~10739 | | 200 | 6500 | 5812~10303 | | 195 | 5500 | 5604~9883 |
[Corsair]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 182 | 11000 | 6345~11466 |
Raptor Jesus H Christ! What the hell did they do to their HP and why is their damage ranges so high?!? *Falls to floor foaming at mouth*
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IllegallySane Wrote:Raptor Jesus H Christ! What the hell did they do to their HP and why is their damage ranges so high?!? *Falls to floor foaming at mouth*
LOL, I.S.
TKWizard already explained like 3 times to other people.
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My god.... JMS gratz!!!  those guys are wesome
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TKWizard Wrote:Oh, I managed to get their list of members, levels, HP and Damage ranges.
Here you go.
[Buccaneer]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 196 | 19300 | 8300~14824 | | 190 | 19824 | 7236~13157 |
[Hero/Paladin]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 199 | 28000 | 9820~17796 | | 194 | 27468 | 8889~16208 | | 196 | 30000 | 8426~15297 | | 200 | Unknown | 7399~13492 | | 179 | 20032 | 6365~11522 |
[Dark Knight]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 200 | 20104 | 7018~15758 | | 181 | 21018 | 6627~14935 |
[Bowmaster/Marksman]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 200 | 15429 | 11673~14290 | | 180 | 12166 | 10837~13294 | | 186 | 13958 | 8769~10746 | | 192 | 11000 | 7500~9200 | | 200 | 7747 | 8376~10246 | | 183 | 6330 | 8090~9900 |
[Night Lord]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 188 | 13720 | 7964~14045 | | 200 | 9324 | 7738~13694 | | 200 | 12000 | 6865~12160 | | 200 | 12000 | 6789~12040 | | 190 | 8500 | 6728~11881 | | 193 | 18943 | 6702~11841 | | 186 | 15000 | 6275~11113 | | 196 | 8500 | 6192~10901 | | 189 | 9663 | 5502~9701 | | 200 | 6199 | 6198~10909 | | 190 | 5897 | 6080~10739 | | 200 | 6500 | 5812~10303 | | 195 | 5500 | 5604~9883 |
[Corsair]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 182 | 11000 | 6345~11466 |
I'm not sure how they're getting apple type ranges but I'm not going to get into that. Something doesn't add up when looking at some of the HP and the fact that left side deals more damage than right side. How are those range able to survive or did they get really lucky with Shifter/high avoid? Half of them don't even have enough to take 12k hits and left side deals around 17-18k hits. Everyone has to remain attacking, even losing one person dying is a loss in DPM but we're talking about 8 people that don't even got the HP to take a hit which is huge. Did they invest a boat load on wheels or something?
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All I need to say Devil, is that these characters took years to level up to their level, thousands of dollars (stolen or worked for) on their Maplestory account, and sheer dedication. Private servers can gain all of that in less than 5 seconds. True, they have no lives, but it's damn hard to do that. Plus they actually synchronized together. Listen, private servers probably have a max stat of 32,000...lol.
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BombsAway Wrote:Also, iirc Devil is one of the most washed players in any version of maple ever. I don't see how he can complain about them spending money when he is no better in that sense. I'm not massively washed, only about 10 AP's, it's a blood build, I'm trading in a part of my damage (+/- 20%) to gain more HP, without buying my way into that. If other people pay Nexon 5000 dollar to gain the same (if not more...) amount of HP as blood builds, while still remaining at "original" damage levels, that's just cheating to me... Would it be fair if you could pay 5000 dollars to Nexon to get a permanent 100watt cash shop ring? Personally I don't think that would be fair either...
But ok, let's all be happy for those people if they are happy with them killing PB this way...
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Please explain to me what they are using for those ranges, because there is no physical way to get that high clean, since even some of our absolute best heroes have 10k ranges, and those heroes have 7k more than that without having our convinience to make perfect items. Are those ranges clean or with MW30 + Echo + Attack Pot?
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RIPGobies Wrote:I'm not sure how they're getting apple type ranges but I'm not going to get into that. Something doesn't add up when looking at some of the HP and the fact that left side deals more damage than right side. How are those range able to survive or did they get really lucky with Shifter/high avoid? Half of them don't even have enough to take 12k hits and left side deals around 17-18k hits. Everyone has to remain attacking, even losing one person dying is a loss in DPM but we're talking about 8 people that don't even got the HP to take a hit which is huge. Did they invest a boat load on wheels or something?
Just by looking at the fact the Drks HP is around 20k tells us this table is un-HB'd HP. With HB the majority of the ranged can survive 12k hits.
And to JMS, congratulations! I wish AP Resets were cheaper here so we could have more ranged attending. Question though: does HB stack with the new Energy Drinks? Because if those became plentiful enough that GMSers could take them on PB runs, then perhaps the steep washing cost can be bypassed provided the firepower is actually THERE.
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TKWizard Wrote:Oh, I managed to get their list of members, levels, HP and Damage ranges.
Here you go.
[Buccaneer]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 196 | 19300 | 8300~14824 | | 190 | 19824 | 7236~13157 |
[Hero/Paladin]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 199 | 28000 | 9820~17796 | | 194 | 27468 | 8889~16208 | | 196 | 30000 | 8426~15297 | | 200 | Unknown | 7399~13492 | | 179 | 20032 | 6365~11522 |
[Dark Knight]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 200 | 20104 | 7018~15758 | | 181 | 21018 | 6627~14935 |
[Bowmaster/Marksman]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 200 | 15429 | 11673~14290 | | 180 | 12166 | 10837~13294 | | 186 | 13958 | 8769~10746 | | 192 | 11000 | 7500~9200 | | 200 | 7747 | 8376~10246 | | 183 | 6330 | 8090~9900 |
[Night Lord]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 188 | 13720 | 7964~14045 | | 200 | 9324 | 7738~13694 | | 200 | 12000 | 6865~12160 | | 200 | 12000 | 6789~12040 | | 190 | 8500 | 6728~11881 | | 193 | 18943 | 6702~11841 | | 186 | 15000 | 6275~11113 | | 196 | 8500 | 6192~10901 | | 189 | 9663 | 5502~9701 | | 200 | 6199 | 6198~10909 | | 190 | 5897 | 6080~10739 | | 200 | 6500 | 5812~10303 | | 195 | 5500 | 5604~9883 |
[Corsair]
| Level | HP | Damage Range | | 182 | 11000 | 6345~11466 |
Wheres the shadowers?
Some of those NLs barely hp washed.
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FrozNlite Wrote:Just by looking at the fact the Drks HP is around 20k tells us this table is un-HB'd HP. With HB the majority of the ranged can survive 12k hits.
And to JMS, congratulations! I wish AP Resets were cheaper here so we could have more ranged attending. Question though: does HB stack with the new Energy Drinks? Because if those became plentiful enough that GMSers could take them on PB runs, then perhaps the steep washing cost can be bypassed provided the firepower is actually THERE.
They don't stack. When I used them in Future Toukyou and got HB'ed, it disappeared.
@Tay --- Yeah... You have no idea. They drive me insane at boss runs and shi't.
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FrozNlite Wrote:Just by looking at the fact the Drks HP is around 20k tells us this table is un-HB'd HP. With HB the majority of the ranged can survive 12k hits.
And to JMS, congratulations! I wish AP Resets were cheaper here so we could have more ranged attending. Question though: does HB stack with the new Energy Drinks? Because if those became plentiful enough that GMSers could take them on PB runs, then perhaps the steep washing cost can be bypassed provided the firepower is actually THERE.
I know that's their hp clean, that doesn't answer my question and everywhere I read have said left side deals more damage then right side so you would need over 17k to survive.
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Grats to JMS on the first legit run. (TaiwanMS doesn't count since they had 5 hours.)
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ShiKage Wrote:They don't stack. When I used them in Future Toukyou and got HB'ed, it disappeared.
@Tay --- Yeah... You have no idea. They drive me insane at boss runs and shi't.
They stack if you pot over HB:
http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthr...post389185
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