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2009-12-07, 07:38 AM
(This post was last modified: 2009-12-08, 07:33 AM by lord farkuad.)
I have a few questions:
A) My range is greater than everyone in the 12X's and greater than 70% of the people in the 13X's at 120, where should I train? (~424X, I would post a SS but maple is down as I write this)
B) Im in a guild that Zakum runs twice a day, and CWKPQ's twice a week, but I still want to be able to train. Would getting 21 DS, then 21 Barrage, then 30 DS, then 30 Barrage hurt me? (So I have both Single Target + Multy Target early on)
C) Is it actually possible to train with DS in a way where you dont get hit? I talked to a 158 bucc, a 150 bucc, and a 132 bucc, and they all said that its impossible. I kind of hope this is so and hope this is not so: - If its correct, Im correct
- If its wrong, I can train more efficiently but im still an idiot for not figuring it out.
Anyway, all help is appreciated guys, thanks.
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lord farkuad Wrote:I have a few questions:
A) My range is greater than everyone in the 12X's and greater than 70% of the people in the 13X's at 120, where should I train? (~424X, I would post a SS but maple is down as I write this)
B) Im in a guild that Zakum runs twice a day, and CWKPQ's twice a week, but I still want to be able to train. Would getting 21 DS, then 21 Barrage, then 30 DS, then 30 Barrage hurt me? (So I have both Single Target + Multy Target early on)
C) Is it actually possible to train with DS in a way where you dont get hit? I talked to a 158 bucc, a 150 bucc, and a 132 bucc, and they all said that its impossible. I kind of hope this is so and hope this is not so:- If its correct, Im correct
- If its wrong, I can train more efficiently but im still an idiot for not figuring it out.
Anyway, all help is appreciated guys, thanks.
For B), is that including 11 SI and Time Leap points? Because if you're CWKing and Zakking, those will be pretty important.
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A) The same place as everyone else in their 13x. Skelegons. If you want to solo, Regret 4/5 might be good until you get some of your 4th job skills. Then you could solo at Oblivion 4/5.
B) As the guy above said, 11 SI and 1 Time Leap are very important. But other than that, what you said is fine. DS is pretty much all you need to train decently, and Barrage will help your bossing abilities quite a bit.
C) While I've never played a Bucc, I would say that never getting hit is more than likely impossible. Some of the Buccs I've talked to said they rarely get hit, but there was a 17x one that just switched between DS and Orb. He got hit pretty often, but then again he killed faster than anyone who didn't use that combo. So you could probably go through training taking very little damage, but I doubt you'll be able to avoid all damage completely.
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There is no way to avoid getting hit at all, but you can avoid most hits by using DS + CSP combo (dragon dance).
About your build, people never really seemed to care about the damage I do at bosses, they just care about me having TL and lvl 11 SI, I realised that when I got 11 SI after maxing barrage, people went insane and it was like "Manu goes to every run we have". (I got 1 TL, 1 SI, 1 barrage until I maxed DS, then maxed barrage and THEN got SI 11)
Last thing, you have quite a range there, can we see equips?
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2009-12-07, 12:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 2009-12-07, 12:28 PM by Beaner.)
your range doesnt matter that much without skills, at 120 you are still a 3rd job pirate sadly. i do recomend you max ds asap. get that 1 point in tl, 1 point in si and 1 point in barrage before of course. once you max ds you can go for 11 si or 21 barrage. i would do barrage myself.
himes are a great training spot till you get 21 ds and even after they pretty good. once your ds is 21 you can move up to skeles and the such. peak is a pretty good map to solo, and TT gives pieces of times if you solo there.
edit: i forgot to say, LOLzinnia.
carry on!
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A) Just because your range is higher doesn't make any difference yet.
B) Those 9 points in dragon strike can change your HKO at skeles, so if you want to train slower so you can boss "better", sure, go for it.
C) If nexon lowered the speed cap i'm sure you could. At the moment though, you can't.
Doesn't mean you burn tons of pots though.
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XBish Wrote:your range doesnt matter that much without skills, at 120 you are still a 3rd job pirate sadly. i do recomend you max ds asap. get that 1 point in tl, 1 point in si and 1 point in barrage before of course. once you max ds you can go for 11 si or 21 barrage. i would do barrage myself.
himes are a great training spot till you get 21 ds and even after they pretty good. once your ds is 21 you can move up to skeles and the such. peak is a pretty good map to solo, and TT gives pieces of times if you solo there.
edit: i forgot to say, LOLzinnia.
carry on!
Brb changing my guild to my current guild, Amazon =P
Anyway, thanks for the help guys. First of all, I will never call CSB + DS the pineappling term "Dragon Dance." Second, So I guess it just lets me crowd control more efficiently, as opposed to complete invincibility frames?
Thanks guys. Ill post a pic of my equips in a bit to the one who asked above, I still have a lot I need to upgrade o.o
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You COULD stay invincible 100% of the time, but i think due to reaction time + computer --> server lag, it's impossible. But if you had exact timing + no lag, it really is possible to remain invincible. Looking forward to your equips tho. You have the same range as I do (close), but I'm like 20 levels higher than you.
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Worthyness Wrote:You COULD stay invincible 100% of the time, but i think due to reaction time + computer --> server lag, it's impossible. But if you had exact timing + no lag, it really is possible to remain invincible. Looking forward to your equips tho. You have the same range as I do (close), but I'm like 20 levels higher than you.
Due to the server being down Ill list them:
21 dex sauna
15/15/15/15 zhelm
5/4/5/5 10 att MoN
9 dex YSS
15 att SCG
99/13 att King Cent
2 att 10 dex PaC
4/7/4/4 Red belt 100%'ed with dex
1/2/1/1 Broken Glasses
10 dex Black Crystal Earings
2/2/2/2 Master Adventurer Medal
I have 20 base dex, 100 with equips
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i like your cent if it isnt hammered. and even if it is.
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it is =P couldnt afford a non-hammered one, but IDC cuz even if it wasnt hammered I wouldnt have the guts to hammer + scroll it.
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For some reason, you being a BUCCANEER didn't click for about ten minutes. I just COULD NOT figure out what made you so godly with 20 Dex. Wow, total fail.
Nice gear though. Sheesh.
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Thanks for the compliments guys =) I worked really hard to get the gear.
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2009-12-07, 10:43 PM
(This post was last modified: 2009-12-08, 02:35 PM by Worthyness.)
lol now i know why you have a damn good range. not only do you have a 34 at least, str advantage, but you also have like 15 more attack than i do xD
EDIT: LOL oh man AND you have another 2 levels of blessing on me too xD
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<3 I feel the love, and now im zrunning twice a day, I need to get a str scar helm
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Ok guys I just posted a pic of my range, blessing, and knuckle in the OP.
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does dexless raise damage by alot at way higher lvls(160+) compered to low/reg dex?
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^Above; If the rest of your equips are good, yeah, otherwise no not really.
and you bumped a month old thread. :|
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3) it is possible its not as fast though.
step 1) macro DS and Macro barrage (on different macros)
step 2) csb > DS like normal but if you csb yourself into a mob use barrage after the DS and spam csb during your barrage animation. (my usual rotation is DS > CSB > DS > Bar > CSB)
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