Balancing is over

Question to buccs,

If nexon made barrage rapid like TT, will it in anyway help increase the dps ?

Shadowers dps only got increase by around 13-16% because of dark sight no delay. Every other boost we got was for training. Marksmen should be still stronger than us. They also kill faster than us even with the new venom update. All nexon has to do with MM is fixed their glitches with their skills and there all set.

I disagree on the training part. Now that I can Boomerang Step both the Right and Middle head (alone or hitting both at once) at Horntail, because of the limitation removal, it should increase quite a bit of DPS at boss fights where there wasn't any flat terrain, and some other things as well!

This is rather ironic because it made Thunder Breakers more powerful than Buccaneers.

Sparks plays a very large part too. Don't forget about it.

does anyone know if the 4 arrows do the same damage on frozen monsters broken strafe got into the official server?

Shadowers dps only got increase by around 13-16% because of dark sight no delay. Every other boost we got was for training. Marksmen should be still stronger than us. They also kill faster than us even with the new venom update. All nexon has to do with MM is fixed their glitches with their skills and there all set.

So not true, I have a lv 130 Shadower friend who gets twice as much exp an hour I do. He easily gets 14 mil an hour at Time Temple while I struggle to get 6-7mill an hour. I thought I was getting 8m an hour but I've been testing it the past few days and its between 6-7mill an hour).

Shadowers are the fastest trainers after Mages/Bishops as it is, after these changes the gap will be even bigger.

does anyone know if the 4 arrows do the same damage on frozen monsters broken strafe got into the official server?

I've seen that before in the test server. Its never made it to the real servers before.

So not true, I have a lv 130 Shadower friend who gets twice as much exp an hour I do. He easily gets 14 mil an hour at Time Temple while I struggle to get 6-7mill an hour. I thought I was getting 8m an hour but I've been testing it the past few days and its between 6-7mill an hour).

Shadowers are the fastest trainers after Mages/Bishops as it is, after these changes the gap will be even bigger.

14m per hour on a lvl130 shad? Sorry but your Shadower friend is a -blatant liar-. When I was lvl130 (that was even before I started to blood wash), I got about 4m per hour. 14m per hour at 130 is 33% per hour...that's 66% per hour on 2x exp and 132% on 4x exp... lol...lies...

It's just -NOT- possible to get even -near- 14m per hour at lvl130... You can only have 1 skill maxed at 130 or 2 skills at lvl 15... just pure -not- possible...

Shads are good trainers, but only by a margin... Hero's / Paladins / DK's / Buc's / Corsairs / NL's have about the same training speed as Shads...

P.S. Even at lvl150 (with bloodwashing, ok) I got about 8m per hour, and it's so facking slow I don't even -want- to train anymore, because I have better things to do then gain 1 level per 2 weeks on a monotone 2D pixel game...

Question to buccs,

If nexon made barrage rapid like TT, will it in anyway help increase the dps ?

Yes.

I think I'm going to love what they are finaly doing to Paladins.

14m per hour on a lvl130 shad? Sorry but your Shadower friend is a -blatant liar-. When I was lvl130 (that was even before I started to blood wash), I got about 4m per hour. 14m per hour at 130 is 33% per hour...that's 66% per hour on 2x exp and 132% on 4x exp... lol...lies...

It's just -NOT- possible to get even -near- 14m per hour at lvl130... You can only have 1 skill maxed at 130 or 2 skills at lvl 15... just pure -not- possible...

Shads are good trainers, but only by a margin... Hero's / Paladins / DK's / Buc's / Corsairs / NL's have about the same training speed as Shads...

P.S. Even at lvl150 (with bloodwashing, ok) I got about 8m per hour, and it's so facking slow I don't even -want- to train anymore, because I have better things to do then gain 1 level per 2 weeks on a monotone 2D pixel game...

I have to agree with the beginning statements, but Shadowers do get much faster as they get higher up. Once you are able to 2HKO monsters like Skeles (with taunt) or better (maybe Oblivion monsters) it gets a lot faster.

Then again, if the Shadower ever gets to the point where he can OHKO Skeles (I can do that roughly 95% of the time now, as opposed to around 5% when I first hit 200) the exp will be insane. Like, completely insane, especially with the BS delay getting shortened again as well as being able to use BS in mid air (no more jump shots are needed!). Of course, that will likely never happen for most Shadowers since you need a 13k+ range typically, but if they do OHKO they are clearly faster than any other non-mage class.

Either way, as you said the difference somewhat small compared to the some of the other non-mages.

I think I'm going to love what they are finaly doing to Paladins.

I think im going to love it too. Check this out: http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=ucc&no=8517

If i saw right, his range with pot was 64xx and dam hitting 110k with blast without crit O.o Yes he has SE but he does break 100k without crit and he is 153 lvl

brb making a Shadower.

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I think the 2nd half of the video is the new delays and the first half is the old ones.

I think im going to love it too. Check this out: http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=ucc&no=8517

If i saw right, his range with pot was 64xx and dam hitting 110k with blast without crit O.o Yes he has SE but he does break 100k without crit and he is 153 lvl

I'm pretty sure that's a 84xx range otherwise something is really off.

brb making a Shadower.

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I think the 2nd half of the video is the new delays and the first half is the old ones.

Now that's what I'm talkin' about.

brb making a Shadower.

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I think the 2nd half of the video is the new delays and the first half is the old ones.

Oh wth. If Shadowers are going to be able to pretty much be in god mode like that, I really forsee some serious Buccaneer buffs. The new Boomerang Step is plain insane.

These changes have made things more unbalanced than before...

What the f'uck @ shadowers.

L> bucc update video.

These changes have made things more unbalanced than before...

I agree in part. They messed up balance between the two Arch Mages, they didn't do much for Buccaneers vs. Corsair, Bowmaster vs. Marksman had little done for it, but the Warrior and Thief jobs were greatly helped. In short, between jobs = fine, within jobs = bad.

Buccaneers vs. Corsair

Since when was this ever a problem?

Well, this should make shadowers a little more awesome than they were already. Also advocating further buccaneer updates of some kind. :|

Since when was this ever a problem?

Since Buccaneers practically suck ass and Corsair are one of the best classes?