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Just another Zakum Solo
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The first time I tried on my Bowmaster, it was to see if I could do it at all. That run took me 3 hours. To my knowledge it was the first Windian Zakum solo and the first Bowmaster solo. (link)

The second time on my Bowmaster I was more confident in my abilities, skills, and gear. Even though my theoretical DPS wasn't that much higher (in spite of being 170 instead of 152), I managed that in 2 hours and 3 minutes. (link)

I had always been interested in Corsairs and kept trying to convince my friends to make one, but with no luck. After seeing BriBri's Zak solo, I decided to make one myself -- never expecting to even take it to 4th job.

The first solo on my Corsair was to compare it to my Bowmaster; as such I did the solo on my Corsair at level 152 as well. Unfortunately I DC'd when 2nd body died and never finished. Considering the rate I was going, I would have finished in about 105 minutes (1:45).

Finally, I decided to do it one more time at 175 (after getting MW to 29) just to see how fast it could be done. And here it is, at 57 minutes, my fastest Zakum attempt yet.
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The three (and later just two) people in the corner are all Carlos and my mules there to loot helms to sell. They provided no buffs, debuffs, or damage. Once again, the stingy peach dropped no weapons, save for a Tree Branch. Got some nice helms though.

Tons of fun though. Corsairs forever~
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#2
nice Big Grin
That's a pretty beastly cannon.
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#3
You are officially my idol. Blush

Approximately how often did ship break? (I have never Zak'd on my Corsair so I don't know how often it would break there).
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#4
That is defintely one of the fastest solos I've seen. The only 2 faster I can actually think of is a 19x BM and one from a 19x Hero with a perfect lunchbox.

Guess it goes to show how a sairs dps translates when applied to the actual game. Still rocking.
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#5
Inspiration for me to continue my gunslinger.
Congratz
And I noticed on your 2nd bm zak attempt and this zak solo WOWDreamBig was in your chat log on your first pics lol.
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#6
Bribery Wrote:You are officially my idol. Blush

Approximately how often did ship break? (I have never Zak'd on my Corsair so I don't know how often it would break there).
My ship broke twice. That's 2 times. I came in with a full boat (150k HP) and it was blinking when I got to first body. It stayed blinking through most of first body because I was taking 1 damage from lolboogies. Eventually I got hit by Zakum enough to have it break once.

When first body died, I had to clear out the boogies so I could re-cast Homing. he proceeded to fill the room with the weakest brown summons, who can't even shoot magic. They did about 200 touch damage. And when 2nd body died, he resummoned a stronger type of brown summon. This kind could shoot magic, so I ended up taking quite a bit more damage. I used Flamethrower on a few at the very beginning (to make them follow me), and a few of the magic-shooters never stopped shooting at me the entire fight. I did take primarily bump damage though, so my boat didn't break again until the last 25% of 3rd body.

Phoenix Wrote:That is defintely one of the fastest solos I've seen. The only 2 faster I can actually think of is a 19x BM and one from a 19x Hero with a perfect lunchbox.

Guess it goes to show how a sairs dps translates when applied to the actual game. Still rocking.
If I may ask, what were their times? I have a hard time believing that a Bowmaster could beat my time at all, honestly. Hero makes sense though.
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Bribery Wrote:Approximately how often did ship break? (I have never Zak'd on my Corsair so I don't know how often it would break there).

For a solo in that time, it shouldn't break more than two-three times (once during the arm and one-two during the body). In a party run it depends on your skills to get on and off boat to avoid 1/1, stuns and how long the runs take. Sometimes you can get away without boat breaking at all and sometimes once or twice at a high enough level.


Grats on the solo. Looks like you estimated your solo to be under 70min, unless you were holding onto some gelts as backup Biggrin

I've tried it too, but have no SS to show for it. None of the SS came out when I looked at the nexon folder after the run. Damage range was so much lower than yours though, didn't finish all the equips yet. But was still able to finish under 85min on the first attempt. When I did it, I noticed it took less pots to solo than it does in about a 25-30min party run lol. You don't need to worry about 1/1s as the summons continue to give you low bump damage.
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#8
a good 3.5% at level 175, enough to get 75% at level 120

grats on solo
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#9
KaidaTan Wrote:If I may ask, what were their times? I have a hard time believing that a Bowmaster could beat my time at all, honestly. Hero makes sense though.

Admiraladama held a steady ~50 min run record for quite a while, though his shiner bow was perfect I beleive (Bought from a dupe hacker). This was at 191.

I'm going to have to recheck for the exact time, but I remember being extremely surprised he broke the 1hr barrier.
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TamilTiger1 Wrote:Grats on the solo. Looks like you estimated your solo to be under 70min, unless you were holding onto some gelts as backup Biggrin
Actually, I got my imaginary time of 105 minutes for the 152 solo by checking my screenshots and finding how long I had been fighting the bodies by the time I did half their HP (182m). Turns out I had an SS at almost exactly that point in second body, and I could easily figure out from the other screenshots that I had been fighting for 35 minutes at that point. Since the arms took me 35 minutes as well, that gives me the time of 35+35+35=105.

So! I then recalculated my DPS back then (using my exact stats from the first few screenshots and adding 13 MW, apples, and Bullseye. I pretended Zakum had 1100 defense for all parts to make my life easier.) and found it to be 155111. At 105 minutes with that DPS, I figured out that I had roughly 49.33% efficiency. Meaning that on average, I was doing 49% of my theoretical DPS every second.

With my new DPS of 245555, at 49.33% efficiency, I was slated to kill Zakum in 66.3 minutes. However, I knew for a fact that my efficiency would do nothing but increase since I've gotten more defense, more avoid, max Rapid Fire, and almost 50% more boat HP. Not to mention a much smarter arm route. This is how I knew 7 apples would be enough for sure. My goal for the run, based on this, was 60 minutes (54% efficiency). With my actual time of 57 minutes, my efficiency ended up being 57.41%.

I could have gone a little higher if I didn't get hit with a few stupid 1/1s and other attacks that I shouldn't have. And both times my boat broke, it broke as he stopped guarding and un-broke within 10 seconds of him guarding again. Other than that, I guess more avoid would be nice. Getting bumped in the right direction is important too, but there's not much you can do to control their erratic movement. I think 60 or 65% efficiency might be possible, but I don't think I'll try again until 200.
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#11
Gratz Alex on the under 1 hour solo. I havent talked to you, Carlos, and the rest of the Windia people in ages, I hope you guys are doing well..

As for a 19x bowmaster doing it under 1 hour, I'm not sure if it were possible, but I did find this.

My friend Tin, did it in 1 hour 45 minutes back when he was 185. Of course, this was done June 2008, meaning almost 1.5 years ago. I dont completely remember, but I dont think attack facestompers/PACs existed back then...and attack belts definitely werent around. I know he owned a 135/7 Dragon Shiner Bow, but I dont know if the zak solo came before or after that bow. I'm not sure if that would help you crunch some numbers, but essentially, you'd be adding 25ish attack (assuming 4 atk PAC to 10, 2 atk FS to 8, 9 atk belt, extra 4 atk from hammers to glove...pretty reasonable equips), 10 more points of MW (or 20? Was horntail killed that long ago?), and potentially another 10 attack on top of that (MoN...were they out back then?) and 10 levels to see if he can cut his time down by essentially 45 minutes.
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Retalion Wrote:Gratz Alex on the under 1 hour solo. I havent talked to you, Carlos, and the rest of the Windia people in ages, I hope you guys are doing well..

As for a 19x bowmaster doing it under 1 hour, I'm not sure if it were possible, but I did find this.

My friend Tin, did it in 1 hour 45 minutes back when he was 185. Of course, this was done June 2008, meaning almost 1.5 years ago. I dont completely remember, but I dont think attack facestompers/PACs existed back then...and attack belts definitely werent around. I know he owned a 135/7 Dragon Shiner Bow, but I dont know if the zak solo came before or after that bow. I'm not sure if that would help you crunch some numbers, but essentially, you'd be adding 25ish attack (assuming 4 atk PAC to 10, 2 atk FS to 8, 9 atk belt, extra 4 atk from hammers to glove...pretty reasonable equips), 10 more points of MW (or 20? Was horntail killed that long ago?), and potentially another 10 attack on top of that (MoN...were they out back then?) and 10 levels to see if he can cut his time down by essentially 45 minutes.
PACs came out before 4th job did. FS... I can't remember, but definitely before Shiner Bows existed. He would have to double his range to cut his time down by 45 minutes though. Considering he already had a perfect bow, I don't think that's possible.
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#13
KaidaTan Wrote:PACs came out before 4th job did. FS... I can't remember, but definitely before Shiner Bows existed. He would have to double his range to cut his time down by 45 minutes though. Considering he already had a perfect bow, I don't think that's possible.

As I said, I wasnt sure when he got that perfect bow. I knew he had a 119 atk metus before that, so... yeah, that would be an extra 16 attack from bow alone if he went now.

Additionally, I wasnt referring to PACs (I had a 2/8 dex before I got hacked...good ole times) and FS but rather Chaos'd PACs and FS, as that's where the real bonuses are.

After some research, I've found that between summer 2008 and now, we've gotten...

Attack Belts (0-->11)
Chaos'd PACs (4--> 12)
Chaos'd FS (2-->10)
Hammered Gloves/50%/100% glove scrolls (15-->21)
MoN (0-->10)
MW (5% increase --> 15% increase)
Bow (119-->135)

Not sure if there's anything I missed, but from that alone (all of them reasonable upgrades), you have an extra 59 attack and 10% increase in dex + the extra 50 dex he'd hypothetically have if he were 10 levels higher. I did not factor in the strength needed to use the bow, so something could possibly be off slightly off there, but I'm saying that the damage increase is significant enough to push the time down by a lot.

I'm no statician, but I'd say that a 19x archer might have <some> shot at getting an hour, with all the new innovations today.

On an entirely different note, I'd be curious to know Lachrymus or however you spell it's zak solo time at 200. I know he's in Windia, and perhaps you know him, so perhaps you two could set something up and time him. I remember him posting his equips on I think sleepywood and they were really godly. While it wont be definitive whether a 19x BM could get under an hour, if he cant get under the hour, then no one can.
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Retalion Wrote:On an entirely different note, I'd be curious to know Lachrymus or however you spell it's zak solo time at 200. I know he's in Windia, and perhaps you know him, so perhaps you two could set something up and time him. I remember him posting his equips on I think sleepywood and they were really godly. While it wont be definitive whether a 19x BM could get under an hour, if he cant get under the hour, then no one can.
I do have him on my buddy list, but I don't think I'd feel right about asking him to solo Zakum for little more than my own amusement.
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#15
Can I ask for a rough estimate how much you spent washing up to that much HP? I mean, it looks like a little around 2K or more...

F`ucking nice job though. God I'm so glad my gunslinger is progressing nicely and this is why. XD
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#16
Why did you take the arm route that you did?

Other than that, really nice job~
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#17
Takebacker Wrote:Why did you take the arm route that you did?

Other than that, really nice job~
I was hoping someone would ask. The arms are big pushovers, but the order you take them in is all-important. The weakness of Corsairs is that their boat is incredibly slow and their avoid is also terrible. Thus, I designed a route that gets me hit as little as possible. I eventually settled on...

Drain [1]____[3]Drain
F/P _ [4]____[2]I/L
Curse[8]____[6]Heal
Phys [5]____[7]Phys

During arm 1 I'm getting hit the most, so the ability to jump-shoot back into position is invaluable. I chose to kill arm 2 instead of arm 3 next because it has 10m less HP and it's a little stronger. Then arm 3 is the last of the arms that can hit the whole map. I can attack and kill arm 4 without getting hit from the top left, although some of my shots miss because it's too low. I jump down to the bottom left to kill arm 5 because, for some reason, it hits the second platform from the top on the right, even though arm 7 doesn't. After this, I can safely attack arms 6 and 7 from that platform and I never miss. Arm 6 (the heal arm) comes before arm 7 simply because it can heal and defense up. Arm 7 is helpless anyway. Arm 8 (the curse arm) hasn't been able to hit me the whole fight, poor guy. I stand on the bottom platform on the left (*not* the floor) so that all of my shots hit. I have to use all-cures here, though it's still faster than having 30% of my shots miss.

xLeviathan Wrote:Can I ask for a rough estimate how much you spent washing up to that much HP? I mean, it looks like a little around 2K or more...

F`ucking nice job though. God I'm so glad my gunslinger is progressing nicely and this is why. XD
I have no idea at all. I never kept count.

Well... wait. A pirate my level should have 167+125+325+23*165 = 4412. My base HP is 6226, so 6226-4412=1814. 1814/21= approximately 86 washes. This is, of course, based on averages so there's a margin of error, I just don't know how big.
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#18
You seem to like numbers and statics verry much Goggleemoticon:.
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#19
Styles Wrote:You seem to like numbers and statics verry much Goggleemoticon:.

THAT is an understatement Biggrin

Grats Alex Glitter

I think Steve (Lachrymus) 'solos' Zakum twice a day...but soloing for him means attacking on both his BM and DK, or BM or bish, or any such combination of his characters.
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KaidaTan Wrote:Well... wait. A pirate my level should have 167+125+325+23*165 = 4412. My base HP is 6226, so 6226-4412=1814. 1814/21= approximately 86 washes. This is, of course, based on averages so there's a margin of error, I just don't know how big.

Thanks. That helps. Smile
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