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Several questions about Aran
#1
I have a few questions:

I still don't get how the "upgrade skills" Full Swing and Overswing get calculated...

1. Is this the correct way:


Job / SkillDouble SwingTriple SwingFinal BlowInfo
1st Job140% x 2---
2nd Job140% x 2250%--
3rd Job250% x 2600%-With maxed Full Swing (+110% x2 / +350%)
4th Job420% x 2840%700%With maxed Overswing (+170% x2 / +240%)


2. Can anyone explain that to me too:

Why would Final Blow (700% damage) be a usefull skill if you can just chain another Overswing, that does more damage (420% + 420% + 840%)?!?!
Or does Overswing something else then just 700% damage?

3. In what situation would the 3rd job skill "Whirlwind" usefull in -ANY- way?

I've been trying to think of situations, but I can't seem to find any... Anyone who has any idea's for what it could be used for? Smile

4. About Combo Tempest

11210% damage10 SecondsAttacks 15 enemiesAttacks 4 Times
301500% damage40 SecondsAttacks 15 enemiesAttacks 4 Times


What does it do for 10 Seconds ~ 40 Seconds?!?!?!
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#2
Devil Wrote:What does it do for 10 Seconds ~ 40 Seconds?!?!?!

Freeze mobs.
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#3
I think it makes them OHKOable.
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#4
Both of the above. The monsters are only OHKOable when they are under Tempest's freeze, whose duration is reliant on its level.
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#5
Devil Wrote:I have a few questions:

I still don't get how the "upgrade skills" Full Swing and Overswing get calculated...

1. Is this the correct way:


Job / SkillDouble SwingTriple SwingFinal BlowInfo
1st Job140% x 2---
2nd Job140% x 2250%--
3rd Job250% x 2600%-With maxed Full Swing (+110% x2 / +350%)
4th Job420% x 2840%700%With maxed Overswing (+170% x2 / +240%)


2. Can anyone explain that to me too:

Why would Final Blow (700% damage) be a usefull skill if you can just chain another Overswing, that does more damage (420% + 420% + 840%)?!?!
Or does Overswing something else then just 700% damage?

3. In what situation would the 3rd job skill "Whirlwind" usefull in -ANY- way?

I've been trying to think of situations, but I can't seem to find any... Anyone who has any idea's for what it could be used for? Smile

4. About Combo Tempest

11210% damage10 SecondsAttacks 15 enemiesAttacks 4 Times
301500% damage40 SecondsAttacks 15 enemiesAttacks 4 Times


What does it do for 10 Seconds ~ 40 Seconds?!?!?!

1) After full swing, the damage is exactly what it says in the skill window. Same thing for overswing...just double swing hits twice with max full swing, while both double and triple swing hits twice with overswing.

2) Over double swing = 340% damage.
Over triple swing = 480% damage.
Level 1 final blow = 410% damage.
Max final blow = 700% damage.

How is it's use not obvious?

3) It isn't useful. Ever.

4) It freezes monsters/makes them ohkoable for the amount of time listed.
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#6
Takebacker Wrote:1) After full swing, the damage is exactly what it says in the skill window. Same thing for overswing...just double swing hits twice with max full swing, while both double and triple swing hits twice with overswing.

2) Over double swing = 340% damage.
Over triple swing = 480% damage.
Level 1 final blow = 410% damage.
Max final blow = 700% damage.

How is it's use not obvious?
I still don't get it... really... so it doesn't get added, but instead of it the damage gets replaced but the hits are doubled? But double swing already hits 2 times? Or does it hit 2 times 2 times then (2x2) and triple swing also hits 2 times then?

Can anyone just give me the damage numbers with the maxed skills and the times it hits in 1st/2nd/3rd/4th job? I totally don't get how it works... How do you get to 340%? and 480%? and 410%!?!?!?! Doesn't the damage it says get ADDED to the 1st / 2nd and 3rd job skill damage?!?!?

Because you say it gets replaced instead of added, will this be the damage then:

1st job: lvl20 double swing: 2x 140%

2nd job: lvl20 double swing: 2x 140%
2nd job: lvl20 triple swing: 1x 250%

3rd job: lvl20 full swing double swing: 2x 110% damage (LOL wtp WEAKER?!?!?)
3rd job: lvl20 full swing triple swing: 1x 350% damage (YAY Stronger!!!!)

4th job: lvl30 overswing double swing: 2x 170% damage (YAY Stronger again!!!!)
4th job: lvl30 overswing triple swing: 1x 240% (ROFL WEAKER?!?!?)
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#7
Devil Wrote:1st job: lvl20 double swing: 2x 140%

2nd job: lvl20 double swing: 2x 140%
2nd job: lvl20 triple swing: 1x 250%

3rd job: lvl20 full swing double swing: 2x 110% damage (LOL wtp WEAKER?!?!?)
3rd job: lvl20 full swing triple swing: 1x 350% damage (YAY Stronger!!!!)

4th job: lvl30 overswing double swing: 2x 170% damage (YAY Stronger again!!!!)
4th job: lvl30 overswing triple swing: 1x 240% (ROFL WEAKER?!?!?)


...Where on earth are you getting these numbers from.
Double swing.
1st job = 1 x 140% = 140%
2nd Job= No change
3rd Job = 2 x 110% = 220%
4th Job = 2 x 170% = 340%

Triple Swing
2nd Job = 1x 250%= 250%
3rd Job = 1 x 350% = 350%
4th Job = 2 x 240% = 480%
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#8
Lozmaster Wrote:...Where on earth are you getting these numbers from.
Double swing.
1st job = 1 x 140% = 140%
2nd Job= No change
3rd Job = 2 x 110% = 220%
4th Job = 2 x 170% = 340%

Triple Swing
2nd Job = 1x 250%= 250%
3rd Job = 1 x 350% = 350%
4th Job = 2 x 240% = 480%
Hmmmm wait... I think I'm starting to understand now.... so double swing is actually "second swing" and triple swing is actually "third swing"... oh nice translation there Nexon...! xD

Would that result into (4th job full swing and overswing maxed)

1st hit (normal attack): 100% damage (Hits 1 time)
2nd hit ("second swing"): 170% damage (Hits 2 times)
3rd hit ("third swing"): 240% damage (Hits 2 times)

So it actually hits 5 times per "combo"

Ahhh now I get it... so the total combo damage would be (not including criticals) 100+170+170+240+240 = 920% damage.

Ah ok, now I understand Final Blow's use (700% damage) also! Smile

Putting it into a table:

Job / SkillNormal attackDouble SwingTriple SwingFinal Blow
1st Job100%140% x 1--
2nd Job100%140% x 1250% x1-
3rd Job100%110% x 2350% x1-
4th Job100%170% x 2240% x2700%
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