Does anyone else use gems?

I worded my post wrong, and was very tired when I wrote it. I didn't exactly mean light refraction, it was just the first thing to pop up into my head about how to relate to energy. I really honestly don't know how scientifically a person reacting or 'healing' because of stones, can be shown, nor do I plan to show proof. I suppose I just figured it could be physically possible to show, and didn't really do too much research on it, sorta like the idea that one day we'll colonize the moon. If you don't get what I mean, I mean to say that I really have no scientific experience to back it up, so it may as well be me just being weird.

It's all groovy.

I used to be really into gemstones and I still have a small box of them. Uusally I carry one around in my bag and keep some quartz around near my PC but I'm still a teensy bit skeptical about their healing properties, I haven't looked into it too much for many years now. It's something my grandmother is also into and we also have a lot of dreamcatchers around the house. I do love my gems.

I used to be really into gemstones and I still have a small box of them. Uusally I carry one around in my bag and keep some quartz around near my PC but I'm still a teensy bit skeptical about their healing properties, I haven't looked into it too much for many years now. It's something my grandmother is also into and we also have a lot of dreamcatchers around the house. I do love my gems.

I say that if you're interested or curious, try holding a couple different stones. Everyone is unique, so one rock won't do it all. I'd like to think that everyone has their own stone, they just have to find it. It's comforting to have something you connect with. And even if I didn't pick up vibes from them, I'd still collect them. I love my shiny stuff. I'd kill for a geode or thunder egg as a bookend. By the time I'm done, my room will become one, I guarantee it. Everyone will be blinded when I turn on the light. I've never had a dreamcatcher, but I really want one. They're so pretty and are the example of capturing nature itself.

It's all groovy.

Never said I was good at science. ;o

The human body is truly capable of many things that most people seem to think isnt. a mother seeing her child trapped in the mouth of a shark pry's its jaw open and snaps it, saving the child and walking away without any serious injuries. if humans were to fully utilize all 100% of our muscular strength, we would cause our own bodies to fall apart from exertion. these are things that were and are proven by science, that the human body is a weapon that even itself has no full understanding of. i mean to this day scientists are trying to unravel still the many mysteries of the mind, how it works, what causes certain synapses to fire in certain ways, what makes certain brain cells link together to form new memories and abilities, and how the brain is able to perceive various things. even some scientists are trying to unravel the mystery of the human spirit, so to say that something like using gemstones for mystical purposes is pure bollocks, well, if its good enough for some smart alleks, then it ought to be fine enough for everyone.

i myself have never tried this, per say. sure using gemstones ive no experiences in, but other mediums yes. theres a knight piece from a chess set i own, wooden, and its the black knight, that ive used for various practices when relating to things like the aura, a persons own individual energies, and so on. some things just arent able to be explained. i mean, humans are the only animals on earth to have had a more massive affect on the planet than any other animal; ants may have carved into the crust, as well as other burrowers, but no animal has ever harnessed the energies of the foundations of life, and in turn through sheer human nature turned them into a weapon capable of destroying the planet many times over. so yeah, its entirely plausible that this gemstone stuff works. i mean, i can believe it. but, then again the conflict of science and rational experimented facts are oft times the counter to pseudo-scientifical advances. or so as far as i know.

Everyone start placing bets now that she'll end up shocking me with some sort of dark stone energy or something and put me in the hospital.

Nah, just kidding. She's always been good with this stone stuff. My grandmother was really into it, too, so I at least have a basic understanding of it, but I'm no where near as knowing or what not towards it than she is, so I'm lost most of the time.

She's always trying to get me to try feeling the energy from her amethyst, but it never really seems to work on me.

I propose this thread be changed into something along the lines of, "Sixth senses or powers". She does her gem thing, even though that's technically not an add-on power, but I still count it in my book. As for me, I see coloured auras around people. I've had it ever since I was a little kid, and know it gives me sort of a... little background check on anyone I encounter, even if I've NEVER met them previously in my life. It sorta tells me if they're a good/bad person, what their personalities are like, and basic stuff like that.

My grandma believed that everyone had some sort of unique ability or power, setting them apart from others in the world. I'm not talking about talents or such, but really only I can describe as a "sixth sense/power". It's interesting when you sorta look into it more.

Everyone start placing bets now that she'll end up shocking me with some sort of dark stone energy or something and put me in the hospital.

She's always trying to get me to try feeling the energy from her amethyst, but it never really seems to work on me.

You actually think I know what I'm doing~ All I've ever done is meditate and hog the rocks for myself. The only reason it doesn't work on you is because your pain is chronic, buddy. I've only tried it on my mother once, and she's the type of person that if you told her that jello gives you aids, she'd start popping those vitamins. So I can't say I'm doing it right.

I propose this thread be changed into something along the lines of, "Sixth senses or powers". She does her gem thing, even though that's technically not an add-on power, but I still count it in my book. As for me, I see coloured auras around people. I've had it ever since I was a little kid, and know it gives me sort of a... little background check on anyone I encounter, even if I've NEVER met them previously in my life. It sorta tells me if they're a good/bad person, what their personalities are like, and basic stuff like that.

I'm the opposite. I pick up zero people vibes and am naive to boot. So if I end up missing one day, look to the mysterious man giving candy from his van.

@Tobias:
That's what I meant to say, when Swerve tossed those facts at me. I just couldn't say it right. It appears as a pseudo-science, but I think if we look deeper enough, it could hold some truth.

The human body is truly capable of many things that most people seem to think isnt. a mother seeing her child trapped in the mouth of a shark pry's its jaw open and snaps it, saving the child and walking away without any serious injuries. if humans were to fully utilize all 100% of our muscular strength, we would cause our own bodies to fall apart from exertion. these are things that were and are proven by science, that the human body is a weapon that even itself has no full understanding of. i mean to this day scientists are trying to unravel still the many mysteries of the mind, how it works, what causes certain synapses to fire in certain ways, what makes certain brain cells link together to form new memories and abilities, and how the brain is able to perceive various things. even some scientists are trying to unravel the mystery of the human spirit, so to say that something like using gemstones for mystical purposes is pure bollocks, well, if its good enough for some smart alleks, then it ought to be fine enough for everyone.

i myself have never tried this, per say. sure using gemstones ive no experiences in, but other mediums yes. theres a knight piece from a chess set i own, wooden, and its the black knight, that ive used for various practices when relating to things like the aura, a persons own individual energies, and so on. some things just arent able to be explained. i mean, humans are the only animals on earth to have had a more massive affect on the planet than any other animal; ants may have carved into the crust, as well as other burrowers, but no animal has ever harnessed the energies of the foundations of life, and in turn through sheer human nature turned them into a weapon capable of destroying the planet many times over. so yeah, its entirely plausible that this gemstone stuff works. i mean, i can believe it. but, then again the conflict of science and rational experimented facts are oft times the counter to pseudo-scientifical advances. or so as far as i know.

Thing is, humanity depends on useful tools, and so generally when one is found, its use is expanded to be more efficient, and people to whom it might be useful are taught its use in an organized manner. Throughout history there have also been SCAMS of various types, which tried to trick people into thinking they were useful while they actually weren't. People WANT to believe, and so they believe even when the evidence strongly suggests that they should not.

Tarots, palm readings, crystal balls, gems, runes, and quack herbal healing have been present for literally thousands of years. You have things RELATED to them or which might LOOK like them that are actually useful and truthful. For example, the anatomy of the human hand is useful and helpful to society, so people practicing medicine learn about it. Farmers are seen by many as hicks, but in truth farming tech has advanced to the point where a single farmer in a 1st world country can do as much work as 100 old-school farmers in a place like Laos. They get taught farming techniques in a organized manner.

Who teaches tarots, palm readings, crystal balls, gems, runes and "herbal healing?" I drive past these places in Chicago which are essentially hole-in-the-wall storefronts, and they claim to be "colleges of herbal healing." The thing they all have in common is that they use flowery, new-age language, and are generally run by hippies, who believe in counter-culture, (which hinges on whatever the hippie "feels" as right,) rather than culture, (which teaches useful and proven stuff that's been accumulated over thousands of years.) If herbal healing of this sort was useful, there would be a major for it in well-rounded colleges and unis. Why aren't tarots or gems taught at Harvard, which has an over 1-billion dollar endowment and departments for every established discipline known to man, and some new and kinda questionable ones, such as women's studies and black studies? I seriously doubt that after all these thousands of years, no serious scientific research has been done to test the usefulness of tarots, palm readings, crystal balls, gems runes, and "herbal healing" such as in this "college of herbal healing." You can't get a reputable source to teach you this stuff because it's not reputable. And yes, there are books on it, but then there's also record labels that publish white supremacist music, and bunkers in Montana that are preparing for the "inevitable race war."

If herbal healing of this sort was useful, there would be a major for it in well-rounded colleges and unis. Why aren't tarots or gems taught at Harvard, which has an over 1-billion dollar endowment and departments for every established discipline known to man, and some new and kinda questionable ones, such as women's studies and black studies? I seriously doubt that after all these thousands of years, no serious scientific research has been done to test the usefulness of tarots, palm readings, crystal balls, gems runes, and "herbal healing" such as in this "college of herbal healing."

Keep in mind that I agree with your overall statements. But your faith in the science department of American Universities is flawed. As an undergrad doing research, the only type of studies that get widely published and promoted are those that are able to obtain enough grant money from companies and organizations that find it a worthy cause. Thus research is often narrow in certain fields making it stifling for professors to gain the necessary funds to run invigorating tests on their field of interest.

I worked in a plant research facility this past summer and I was working with a professor in developing a genetic variant of a strawberry plant that would yield more crops. Strawberries grow along lines called runners. And they only grow along every-other node. Which means that around 1/2-2/3 of the length of the plant is not used to produce strawberries. My professor was attempting to find the gene that controls such growth factors and manipulate it so that it would grow more frequently. We didn't have a lot of things we needed in order to proceed due to the project not nearly being as popular as the other research project being run in the adjacent room.

The adjacent room was a study on how to turn switch grass into a viable fuel alternative. Switch grass can frankly grow like wildfire and if the research is successful, may provide drastic results to alternative fuel sources. The amount of funding going into that project was at least 9999999999999999999x more than anything we had to work with and it showed with the type of complex machinery they used in order to regulate the crops and splice the DNA. We literally had to beg and grovel in order to use some of their unused equipment that was a bit dated.

When financial support is provided, it is often off the basis that the research sounds plausibly realistic and will bring about great benefit. What this stifles however is the chance for something plausibly unrealistic to bring about great benefit or the simple fact of purely learning more about an unstudied field that could in the future perhaps lead to a great benefit due to a disaster and catastrophe drastically changing the environment and requiring the use of previously disregarded research to alleviate the issue. It's all touch and go.

There is medicine and other stuff that's based on plants. My brother, a biologist, currently does research on plants, and I know they're used for everything but the kitchen sink. I am just saying "herbal healing" as practiced by hippies and charlatans is not equivalent to the real thing. A real doctor might prescribe Valerian Root, but they wouldn't repeat the phony "herb healing" stuff of these phony storefronts.

I see medicinal herbs and other kind of stuff more like a psicological cure than actuall cure itself, like a placebo effect, the power of the mind over the body is big...

Same thing could work backwards though...

Well, I'm a skeptic. My family was never really into gemstones. Perhaps jade, but that's only for jewelry.

Rocks...healing powers....

Well, I'm a skeptic. My family was never really into gemstones. Perhaps jade, but that's only for jewelry.

Rocks...healing powers....

This is like religion... there are people that believe, there are those that don't, but don't ever dare to TRY and argue with someone that does...

Well, I'm a skeptic. My family was never really into gemstones. Perhaps jade, but that's only for jewelry.

Rock...healing powers....

Is that a goggle-boggle of the mind, or am I just being lame? But I can see where you come from. A lot of people think it's strange.

Well, sort of, Zephyr. I think it's just harder to argue since it's based on belief. lol

People believe in the healing powers of herbs/gems, people believe on god, i don't see much of a difference...

People believe in the healing powers of herbs/gems, people believe on god, i don't see much of a difference...

I meant as in it's probably not as heated as it can get when you dispute religion. With herbs and gems, you can just move on, but with religion, it's pretty deeply ingrained and there's different types. That's all I'm saying. I thought you meant as in people raging at each other over their beliefs. I can't see people having a fist fight over rocks.

I meant as in it's probably not as heated as it can get when you dispute religion. With herbs and gems, you can just move on, but with religion, it's pretty deeply ingrained and there's different types. That's all I'm saying. I thought you meant as in people raging at each other over their beliefs. I can't see people having a fist fight over rocks.

xd well, doubt that herb discussion could lead to a heated battle... after all its hippies we're talking about here

I meant as in it's probably not as heated as it can get when you dispute religion. With herbs and gems, you can just move on, but with religion, it's pretty deeply ingrained and there's different types. That's all I'm saying. I thought you meant as in people raging at each other over their beliefs. I can't see people having a fist fight over rocks.

True. The analogy doesn't quite carry over. But I think a lot of of that has to do with how we polarize religious people to be ignorant of science and atheists to be amoral people who have no knowledge of religion. A large irony is that a ton of atheists don't know nearly enough about science and a ton of Christians don't know nearly enough about the Bible to stage a reasonable argument that doesn't fall under both sides agreeing that religion can only exist as a faith-based experience.

If anything, the power any gems could have to heal is actually the power of the person believing in them. Really, they are nice to look at, really pretty. I like gems and geodes and all that stuff, but... I don't think they have healing powers themselves. (Heh, I love magnetic rocks, so fun to play with. ) Anyways, isn't it sort of like those medical tests were they give the person sugar pills and they feel better because they think they're taking the real pill?

If anything, the power any gems could have to heal is actually the power of the person believing in them. Really, they are nice to look at, really pretty. I like gems and geodes and all that stuff, but... I don't think they have healing powers themselves. (Heh, I love magnetic rocks, so fun to play with. ) Anyways, isn't it sort of like those medical tests were they give the person sugar pills and they feel better because they think they're taking the real pill?

Placebo effect as i posted earlier, the power of the mind over the body is amazing, but it can also backfire...

Example:

Doctor: sir take this pill (placebo in disguise) it will make you feel better, it might give you stomach ache and such. (disguising the after effects of the real medicine)

Patient: doctor the pill you gave me it didn't cure me, and it gave me stomach aches.

there have been medical cases of such things happening, what i gave is a raw example, not necessarily exact for the actual thing happening.

That's why I'm agnostic. I don't know the bible OR science. I kid, I'm just too curious to be exclusive to one group. But I do get your point. Until we get a scientist and priest on the board, a true debate will have to be postponed. xD

And even if it was just a mental thing, like a placebo effect, I still call that a success if it works.