Ask a Thief Thread.

Not sure if you've tested/figured it out yet, but I know it's #1, which means pot effectiveness is only at 75% max thanks to max Alchemist for Hermits/NL's/NW's. A nice 25% pot advantage versus every other class.

Yeah, the only time I ever encounter Zombify is at the Crimsonwood 4, and chaos happens during the fight with Margana anyway, so I never did get to test it out, thanks for the clarification.

Edit: Ok I'll ask a thief: Do you guys respect all these new NL's who made accounts after beginning to play Maplestory?

I mean the ones who were like "Woah that looks cool. Let me make one," and consquently made a NL because they were bored or thought they could fund it or wanted to try another acc.

And then they leeched it past your level and possibly bought mesos or nx and funded it better than you. (This can go to Shadowers too I don't see this happening but ok).

Do you respect them?

Because I sure don't.

I do not respect leechers in general, though I could careless about them though as I always train at mini dungeons or at Time Temple where it is quiet. I can tell if somebody has leeched or trained their character up for this class though. For example, I know of a leeched Night Lord who failed to solo a Big Foot on the map with Junior Wraiths (Easiest map), while I was about 20 levels lower than that Night Lord and happened to solo a Big Foot at the place with Elder Wraiths (Hardest map).

uhm...
this may seem a bit, well, lazy and/or pathetic, but; i made a NW C.knight to link to my f/p, and its currently level 26...
tried looking, but, couldnt find anything on here, and im trying to ween myself off of basil except for the screens section, but i digress; where could i/what are some training places for my NW, level 26?

uhm...
this may seem a bit, well, lazy and/or pathetic, but; i made a NW C.knight to link to my f/p, and its currently level 26...
tried looking, but, couldnt find anything on here, and im trying to ween myself off of basil except for the screens section, but i digress; where could i/what are some training places for my NW, level 26?

Sand Ratz.

Sand Ratz.

is that place really good for a NW? i trained my TB there, but i was in a lot of close quarters when i was there.

is that place really good for a NW? i trained my TB there, but i was in a lot of close quarters when i was there.

Just jump-shoot around. You should kill them in one hit.

My level 55 (currently pure luk eventually Str) bandit is tried of LMPQ for the moment.

I have a range of about 600-1000. And a zhelm.
I want the awesomest exp possible.
I've seen stuff for STDs and for gryphons.
Where do I go? (other alternatives are fine too)

EDIT: Obviously I have max haste and max Savage 19 mastery and 7 booster.

My level 55 (currently pure luk eventually Str) bandit is tried of LMPQ for the moment.

I have a range of about 600-1000. And a zhelm.
I want the awesomest exp possible.
I've seen stuff for STDs and for gryphons.
Where do I go? (other alternatives are fine too)

EDIT: Obviously I have max haste and max Savage 19 mastery and 7 booster.

Try Truckers or Mysterious Path 3. I heard CPQ2 trade wins is also very good with the increased exp.

Try Truckers or Mysterious Path 3. I heard CPQ2 trade wins is also very good with the increased exp.

I was just looking at HP:exp values (Imma one hit anything below 4k easy) and HOLY CRAP Truckers are awesome.
Thanks.

Ok, I've stopped training since I hit level 80 and I'm really trying to stay away from leech. I came up with this idea which is bizarre right now because of recent prices. I was planning on apple-training on newties with 4x.
My question is how fast will I kill them and is it recommended that I kill two newties. My range is poop, it's something like 832~1468 (haven't mapled in 2 weeks.) without an apple.

Also should I upgrade anything?
4 atk 8 luk PAC
12 dex SS
6 atk w/g
16 luk top
5 dex bottom
17 dex 17 luk helm.
52 atk skanda

Your glove is kinda disproportionately bad, I'd definitely say to upgrade that first. 8 atk wgs are easily under 100mil.

Ok, I've stopped training since I hit level 80 and I'm really trying to stay away from leech. I came up with this idea which is bizarre right now because of recent prices. I was planning on apple-training on newties with 4x.
My question is how fast will I kill them and is it recommended that I kill two newties. My range is poop, it's something like 832~1468 (haven't mapled in 2 weeks.) without an apple.

Also should I upgrade anything?
4 atk 8 luk PAC
12 dex SS
6 atk w/g
16 luk top
5 dex bottom
17 dex 17 luk helm.
52 atk skanda

I don't think apple-training on Newties is really worth it. Especially since you're only sniping those 2 in the middle right? Maybe do Vikings/Stormbreakers if you'd apple train at level 80.

Also, judging by your luk top, you're low-dex. So, upgrade the WG to 10+ Atk, and preferably getting a 57+ Atk Claw from then on. Though, I don't know about Scania's market prices.

I'm getting a 17+ SCG later this week, is it gonna be worth it?
I'm dexless but slowly converting to low-dex, my skanda can be hammered two more times.
Is that all I should upgrade?

Also, how come I couldn't hp-wash? I had 20 ap rests and I couldn't rest any mp into hp. It only gave me the option on luk....

Also, how come I couldn't hp-wash? I had 20 ap rests and I couldn't rest any mp into hp. It only gave me the option on luk....

First you need to put points into HP and then take them out from MP to luk with a reset.

You also need to have a minimum ammount of MP to be able to reset.

I'm getting a 17+ SCG later this week, is it gonna be worth it?
I'm dexless but slowly converting to low-dex, my skanda can be hammered two more times.
Is that all I should upgrade?

That SCG is perfect for now. You could hammer the Skanda twice & try your luck with 65% Claw Atk's for a possible 56 Atk to use until you get a better Claw. High level Claws with better attack than your Skanda are usually cheaper to obtain if you're slowly converting to low-dex.

What is a good training spot for lvl 29 Rogues ?

Yeah, I just purchased a 45 atk 5 dex caster for 2 mil today... than got banned. But until than, I'm planning on making a bandit. For some reason I love this class and I have yet to play a bandit. Any tips on how it should be made?
Was reading something that str dits are stronger than dex and lukless dits. So should I add str if so what's the AP build gonna be like? How much will it cost me?

What's a good level to convert from fan dit to normal dit, and what's the best way to make the conversion? Is it right at level 80 when I get the Khanjar, or am I still better off using the Fan until level 90 or 100 or even 120?

Current stats/equips if relevant:

 Spoiler

16/15/15/15 clean ZHelm
5 dex 4 luk earrings
97/8 Fan
4 str 2 luk 3 slot shield (was using to equip level 50 dagger) - not using att shield at all at the moment...
12 str 4 luk Red Pao
10 dex Red Pao bottom
13 att SCG (shared with main)
4 att 6 dex PAC (shared with main)
clean Deputy Star
clean White Belt
8 dex Black snowshoes
Nothing's hammered.

Expecting to have Blue Belt and PQ Mania medal, and hopefully an 10ish dex Glittering earrings for an extra +7 to all. So expected stat totals at level 80:
+45 str, +62 dex, +42 luk

Oh, and I have a clean 8 att 1 luk Khanjar sitting around already.

4 base STR, 40 base DEX and still 13 levels of AP to go before level 80 so options are wide open.

I'd like to minimize spending on this character but it's long term planning and I'm taking it slow so big investments are allowed.

What's a good level to convert from fan dit to normal dit, and what's the best way to make the conversion? Is it right at level 80 when I get the Khanjar, or am I still better off using the Fan until level 90 or 100 or even 120?

Current stats/equips if relevant:

 Spoiler

16/15/15/15 clean ZHelm
5 dex 4 luk earrings
97/8 Fan
4 str 2 luk 3 slot shield (was using to equip level 50 dagger) - not using att shield at all at the moment...
12 str 4 luk Red Pao
10 dex Red Pao bottom
13 att SCG (shared with main)
4 att 6 dex PAC (shared with main)
clean Deputy Star
clean White Belt
8 dex Black snowshoes
Nothing's hammered.

Expecting to have Blue Belt and PQ Mania medal, and hopefully an 10ish dex Glittering earrings for an extra +7 to all. So expected stat totals at level 80:
+45 str, +62 dex, +42 luk

Oh, and I have a clean 8 att 1 luk Khanjar sitting around already.

4 base STR, 40 base DEX and still 13 levels of AP to go before level 80 so options are wide open.

I'd like to minimize spending on this character but it's long term planning and I'm taking it slow so big investments are allowed.

As far as I know, fandits will remain plenty powerful till 120, so why not stick it out till like lvl10x and then start converting?

Dusk you a str bandit trying to become luk? Or did I get it wrong?

Dusk you a str bandit trying to become luk? Or did I get it wrong?

I'm a dexless Bandit trying to switch to STR. Counting 40 DEX as dexless because all my stuff that I'm using is dexless, I'm just in the process of converting.

I decided to start putting AP at level 80 and switching to Cursayer/Khanjar at level 90, because I'm a little impatient to switch, even if a Kebob might be better until 100.