Do you know this person? 162 F/P AM ExRemilia, 137 Shadower ExDrakuaza, 100 Hermit ExFlandre.
He posted on Basilmarket saying he has 1230 magic unbuffed at 162 with no HTP or MoN, meaning he has a 402 MATK Score without those items. In other words, it would make him one of the strongest Magicians in GMS...though I don't know of anyone who has heard of him. I threw out some bait saying he spent a ton of money on NX/meso buying to acquire such a score, and these were his responses:
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Drakuaza Wrote:NX? ha, seriously, i havnt used more than 25 dollars on my character. Im probably the only "nxed" 140+ mage that doesnt even have mp wash because im frikken cheap. And in the monetary regard, if i really wanted to waste my money on a game, i would, because i at least have the money to do as i please, But all i ever did was, sell leech, with the money, go scroll stuff that is quite easy to sell, atk gloves, shields or pretty much anything i wanted to have, sometimes i ended with such amazing crap, so i sold it and bought more scrolls and kept doing that, ask erik or others about how many crap i did and sold, he even saw alot of it, i earned sometimes over 3-4 bil a day. or every 2-3 days. I didnt even have to spend money purchasing items off someone else, i made 90% of my items, the only thing i bought already scrolled, would be my glasses which are 2,1,7.
So if i used real money on this game? yeah, in my 5 years or so playing this(since beta) i only used like 50 usd at max, i used to be nxless until i got my mage which is mainly the source of my money.
Thanks to it, i was even able to fund 3 more characters, my Shadower, my Night Lord and my Hero. So don't assume i did it the easy way.
Also when i started the character, i had clean equips and at most 70m i had. In order to make that last until i was 120, guess what i did?
Hunt maple shields for hours and sell them for 20m each in order to repot and continue my training, i wasnt able to get my equips until i was lvl 140 1 hitting blue wyverns and 2 hitting skeles.
And selling leech, I hate it, but im so damn good doing it. Even before quitting, some people paid me 14m an hr regular 1 hit skeles, and in 2x events some even paid 40m an hour for that dam 1hit ko.
So now tell me, if i made at least 50m in 4 hours, which didnt stopped there, i kept selling for average of 10 hours a day. while the other 14hrs i was sleeping or out.
How easy would it been for me to make money for scroll and clean equipps to scroll? if in scania maple shields were 25-30m clean and each scroll was around 15m, magic atk 50% was like 5m and i bought alot of them and made tons of mystic/maple/esther shields to sell for over 1b each.
Also i do a special service, well DID, of getting people from 30-70 in around 6-7hours in scania. and that gave me an average sometimes of 350m, deppending on their level and time to leech them.
So if you think i got everything the easy way, youre pretty wrong, i worked my ass off to get all i have, and im proud of it.
I responded calling BS, and highlighted a few things of suspicion (you can read my response if you so wish):
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FrozNlite Wrote:Sorry, but I don't believe your methods are 100% legit. Perhaps that's just me, but you're the only person I know of who claims to make billions and achieve such great equips merely through scrolling other equips. The best merchanters in GMS don't scroll to make money, yet you're telling me you can make more than them just by scrolling with mesos you earned from leech? I call BS. Whether that's in the form of duping gears, packet editing to pass scrolls 100%, or some other kind of third party method to ensure success, I highly doubt you were legit in acquiring all of this meso.
The other reason I doubt things is because you're very unawares of things going on. Number one, there is no 50% Shield for MATK scroll - the scroll you're referring to is actually a 30% scroll, but has had the typo 50% for years since the scroll came out in GMS. An extractor on another forum even made a thread last year proving this is the case, so I'm still surprised to see you calling it 50%. On top of that, you didn't know MW30 was out, what dropped it, and regardless offered to buy it immediately. Do you realize how much money that would cost? For someone who claims to be as prominent as yourself to not only know MW30 exists but immediately offer to buy it practically screams illegit mesos. Whether you've quit recently or not, the MW30 information has been out for over a year on several forums, meaning there were months you played in which the information was out there, just a click away. And even if you couldn't stop leeching to find out, you would have heard about it via BL/guild/alliance, a point made even more clearly by the fact that you were on for 10+ hours a day, which means you would have heard some point or another.
Finally, when you talk about scrolling items you only mention the prices of items, as if everything you bought worked. This just reinforces my point about some kind of illegit scrolling method, as NO ONE passes all scrolls they buy. I can think of one person off the top of my head who scrolls more than anyone I know, perhaps as much as you claim, and he only makes roughly 1-2 decent things a week. While he makes a slight profit in the long run, it's nothing like the amount of meso you would need to not only make a godly ArchMage but also fund 3 other characters, which again is more proof of illegitimacy on your part.
Oh, and one last point. You don't have a MoN or HTP yet on your AM, which are essential equipment items for any character that have been out for half a year and a year and a half, respectively. A person as "financially-sound" and "prominent" as yourself for being a Scanian player with 4 4th job characters over the course of 5 years should easily have at least one of them by now, especially considering the fact HTP's can be scrolled, scissored, and sold in the FM for a reasonably cheap amount in comparison to the wealth you claim to have. You should have one by now, but you don't, which means you either never had the money for it in the first place or, more likely, are a known illegit player who the legit community doesn't bring on runs.
Whatever the case may be, my point, in a nutshell, is that you've done enough to make me suspicious of your methods of acquiring meso. Convince me otherwise if you still want, and I will listen, but right now I have huge doubts, as outlined above.
He then responded with the following:
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Drakuaza Wrote:Do you realize i havnt loged in for 2 months already? I dont know hows the economy atm, and who says i need to finish the godamn items to sell them, for some i only needed 2 30% to work and i sold em for the same price of a fully scrolled one.
If i exploded crap? hell yes, i failed allot of scrolls, destroyed items, i exploded more than 7 zhelms, and around 4 scs in my failures, Was i pissed? Yes i was, i was angry as hell that i even loged off in a rage or being pissed at everybody.
When i got bankrupt, i asked some of my friends dor a little money, enough for 2-3 repots so i could sell leech and pay them back and get some money to continue selling leech.
The only sure thing was, i always got at least 300m a day, due my leech service.
If you call BS of me having luck scrolling, I call BS on your level, i say you hacked at least half way there and you spent alot in 2x cards.
Was that nice? no.
So don't question others methods of getting money, and since im in scania, its easier to get money, even from failed 8-10 atks scs.
I will resume my playtime on december 7. If you still question my methods, i will open a godamn blog or post images of crap i make and my up and downs in my wallet.
I do not own a MoN or a HTP on my mage, i have a MoN in my shadower and nightlord, i had a htp in this character, but sold it, and as i said, i havnt had time to PLAY.
Also i dont group with people that monopolize runs and such, since i dont care at all for that.
When i get them was usually when a friend invited me to the run. thats all.
In scania, the only guilds that sell probably HTP is Excellent, which i dont even see eye to eye, how can i request one of them?
And regarding the scissored pendant, i scissored mine in order to sell it when i was broke and needed money. So i didnt get any after that.
In a nutshell, the guy claims to make at least 300m a day leeching while only playing 10 hours a day. He also claims to make 3-4 bil a day (sometimes 2-3 days) by scrolling items and selling them, and that he doesn't have to pass more than 2 30%s on certain items to sell them for the same price as a fully scrolled one. Also, he says he's never spent more than $50 USD on NX. He also claims to be so rich he has funded his AM, Night Lord, Hero, and Shadower, all of which he can do because the Scanian market allows him to do the above.
To Scanians, do you know him? Is this true? What can you tell me about him? Is the Scanian market truly like this?
To all others, does this kind of meso-earning sound viable in any market? The best merchanters don't scroll, as I've been told by some of them, and so I'm surprised to find a person I've never heard of claiming to make more money than any of the best merchanters I know of simply by scrolling and selling leech and without spending a cent of real world money.
I'm merely debating my suspicions; if this is all indeed true then my preconceptions of meso-earning have completely changed and my AM will become a money-machine. But I'm just sensing so much that could be false that I'm not sure what to believe.
2009-09-19, 07:09 PM (This post was last modified: 2009-09-19, 07:13 PM by WillDaSnail.)
Even though I'm not a Scanian, by just looking at her arguements, she literally made some points that somewhat weakens herown arguement. she sure looks shady.
And the many logical fallacies she made, especially in the attempted rebuttal to you response, Dan, pretty much undermined the point(s) she was trying to made. Have her continue his slew of logical fallacies, and say bye-bye to his credibility. If I were you Dan, I would just keep pestering that person until she breaks down under pressure. I can already tell that she's BSing, trying to impress people with her "godly e-penis".
I Googled "Drakuaza" and what do you know, I stumbled across an account of Serebii by that name. So I look at the threads he made...
He probably haxed to get her Pokemon. Frigging Shiny Kyogre and Shiny Groudon, and he's offering this for a (legit) Palkia with good speed evs.
v.1 Jolly Male Gible with 31iv on speed.
Lv.1 Jolly/adamant Larvitar, 30 iv on atk and 31 on speed.
Shiny Groudon
Shiny Kyogre
Lv.1 Sinoh Starters
Lv.1 Timid Eevees with max speed and 30 iv sp atk.
Lvl 70. Naive Kyogre
Lvl 1 Timid 31 iv speed the rest 29-30 IV Roselia
Lv 28 Seriuos natured Ditto.
Lvl 1. Japanese Legit Manaphy
-Ev trained pokemon:
That's just impossible unless you RNG abused or something (which is illegal).
Plus, he said her record is: 1005 Wins - 30 Loses
"So?" You're like. Well, I looked at her RMT (rate my team) and she has the most crappiest Trick Room team in existence, and somehow he managed to get 0 IVS on most of his Pokemon. That's like a 1/31 chance for only one Pokemon...
Oh yeah, he only has the move Trick Room on her lead, Bronzong. That's a lol (you're supposed to have it on 3-4 Pokemon). So he probably dced/lied/hacked to get her wins.
To sum it up, if he was legit, he wouldn't have the time to be playing Beta for 5 years. His last post on Serebii was in 2007, and his RMT post was in 2007. If he was somehow legit in Pokemon, then it would be impossible to squeeze both the Pokemon and Maplestory time together.
Oh, my argument would be useless if they weren't the same character, but I found this.
There's a picture of her Maplestory account...IN WINDIA WHO IS OFF RANKS There's also A PICTURE OF HER POKEMON TEAM! (I must say, she gotten much better in building her team...but it is a bit Salamance weak.)
Hook and sinker. Who knew my knowledge of Maplestory and Pokemon would confirm someone's lie?
I Googled "Drakuaza" and what do you know, I stumbled across an account of Serebii by that name. So I look at the threads he made...
He probably haxed to get her Pokemon. Frigging Shiny Kyogre and Shiny Groudon, and he's offering this for a (legit) Palkia with good speed evs.
v.1 Jolly Male Gible with 31iv on speed.
Lv.1 Jolly/adamant Larvitar, 30 iv on atk and 31 on speed.
Shiny Groudon
Shiny Kyogre
Lv.1 Sinoh Starters
Lv.1 Timid Eevees with max speed and 30 iv sp atk.
Lvl 70. Naive Kyogre
Lvl 1 Timid 31 iv speed the rest 29-30 IV Roselia
Lv 28 Seriuos natured Ditto.
Lvl 1. Japanese Legit Manaphy
-Ev trained pokemon:
That's just impossible unless you RNG abused or something (which is illegal).
Plus, he said her record is: 1005 Wins - 30 Loses
"So?" You're like. Well, I looked at her RMT (rate my team) and she has the most crappiest Trick Room team in existence, and somehow he managed to get 0 IVS on most of his Pokemon. That's like a 1/31 chance for only one Pokemon...
Oh yeah, he only has the move Trick Room on her lead, Bronzong. That's a lol (you're supposed to have it on 3-4 Pokemon). So he probably dced/lied/hacked to get her wins.
To sum it up, if he was legit, he wouldn't have the time to be playing Beta for 5 years. His last post on Serebii was in 2007, and his RMT post was in 2007. If he was somehow legit in Pokemon, then it would be impossible to squeeze both the Pokemon and Maplestory time together.
Oh, my argument would be useless if they weren't the same character, but I found this.
There's a picture of her Maplestory account...IN WINDIA WHO IS OFF RANKS There's also A PICTURE OF HER POKEMON TEAM! (I must say, she gotten much better in building her team...but it is a bit Salamance weak.)
Hook and sinker. Who knew my knowledge of Maplestory and Pokemon would confirm someone's lie?
...
this, this flawless victory, and the fact its from basil, are fully valid arguments for invalidating his/her argument.
I Googled "Drakuaza" and what do you know, I stumbled across an account of Serebii by that name. So I look at the threads he made...
He probably haxed to get her Pokemon. Frigging Shiny Kyogre and Shiny Groudon, and he's offering this for a (legit) Palkia with good speed evs.
v.1 Jolly Male Gible with 31iv on speed.
Lv.1 Jolly/adamant Larvitar, 30 iv on atk and 31 on speed.
Shiny Groudon
Shiny Kyogre
Lv.1 Sinoh Starters
Lv.1 Timid Eevees with max speed and 30 iv sp atk.
Lvl 70. Naive Kyogre
Lvl 1 Timid 31 iv speed the rest 29-30 IV Roselia
Lv 28 Seriuos natured Ditto.
Lvl 1. Japanese Legit Manaphy
-Ev trained pokemon:
That's just impossible unless you RNG abused or something (which is illegal).
Plus, he said her record is: 1005 Wins - 30 Loses
"So?" You're like. Well, I looked at her RMT (rate my team) and she has the most crappiest Trick Room team in existence, and somehow he managed to get 0 IVS on most of his Pokemon. That's like a 1/31 chance for only one Pokemon...
Oh yeah, he only has the move Trick Room on her lead, Bronzong. That's a lol (you're supposed to have it on 3-4 Pokemon). So he probably dced/lied/hacked to get her wins.
To sum it up, if he was legit, he wouldn't have the time to be playing Beta for 5 years. His last post on Serebii was in 2007, and his RMT post was in 2007. If he was somehow legit in Pokemon, then it would be impossible to squeeze both the Pokemon and Maplestory time together.
Oh, my argument would be useless if they weren't the same character, but I found this.
There's a picture of her Maplestory account...IN WINDIA WHO IS OFF RANKS There's also A PICTURE OF HER POKEMON TEAM! (I must say, she gotten much better in building her team...but it is a bit Salamance weak.)
Hook and sinker. Who knew my knowledge of Maplestory and Pokemon would confirm someone's lie?
Good f'ucking god i was wondering why this mattered in this thread.
Oh yeah, please don't attack her/him that hard >_>. I'm pretty sure it's a him, and I must admit FrozenLite, you did attack him/her pretty harshly in your first post =/
DamyouAL Wrote:im not trying to say this in a rude way but
what do you care for? this is pointless, believe him or not period, why need to make more of it o.O
if hes lying then w/e. doesnt really matter anyways
It matters because it's false, then I dislike being insulted on a thread by an illegit boasting their illegit magic. If it's true then I'd love to learn such methods because hey, we all need meso, and at Lv. 200 I have all the time in the world to leech. WELL...matter of speaking with school, but you get my point.
Interesting Pokemon/MapleStory thing there. The thread is here if you'd like to post that information, but I'm sure you've already found it by now.
2009-09-20, 12:57 AM (This post was last modified: 2009-09-20, 01:05 AM by Gandalf0213.)
For all the dipshits accusing Drakuaza of being illegit, packet editor, hacker, or whatever other bullshit you want to pull out your ass:
I've seen him fail items, blow up Zhelms, sell his HTP, hunt for Ilbis at WS when he was broke, for his hermit and to sell, spend hours and hours training.
Why isn't he known? He doesn't have a SW.net account and he doesn't go out of the F/P section at basil. He has never used a smega as far as I know and he keeps away from Zak/ HT hosts. He made his F/P about 4 or less months ago. Are those reasons enough to not be known?
Get off the poor dude's back. He's godly as fuck, he has insane luck when scrolling, and he makes insane money off a special leech method I don't want to mention for Sonny2000's and Drakuaza's business conservation. Get over it.
2009-09-20, 01:04 AM (This post was last modified: 2009-09-20, 01:07 AM by MasPan.)
Gandalf0213 Wrote:For all the dipshits accusing Drakuaza of being illegit, packet editor, hacker, or whatever other bullshit you want to pull out your ass:
I've seen him fail items, blow up Zhelms, sell his HTP, hunt for Ilbis at WS when he was broke, for his hermit and to sell, spend hours and hours training.
Why isn't he known? He doesn't have a SW.net account and he doesn't go out of the F/P section at basil. He has never used a smega as far as I know and he keeps away from Zak/ HT hosts. He made his F/P about 4 or less months ago. Are those reasons enough to not be known?
[color="#cc8899"]Whoah whoah whoah, slow down buddy. No need for that kind of language.
MasPan Wrote:[color="#cc8899"]Whoah whoah whoah, slow down buddy. No need for that kind of language.
Also lol @ "Special leech method"[/COLOR]
No need to open a pointless thread accusing someone of being illegit, right?
And what is there to laugh about? It is a special leech method, that, as far as I'm aware of, no one else at Scania provides. Not the way he does, at least.
