2009-09-18, 12:56 PM
Erich Wrote:Yeah, neo tokyo beats the hell out of something like taiwan.
You sir, are an idiot.
I would gladly sign away Zipangu in its entirety for Formosa.
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2009-09-18, 12:56 PM
Erich Wrote:Yeah, neo tokyo beats the hell out of something like taiwan. You sir, are an idiot. I would gladly sign away Zipangu in its entirety for Formosa.
2009-09-18, 01:00 PM
MetaSeraphim Wrote:Whoa there buddy, you need to calm down a little before you end up getting yourself banned.Exactly what i was thinking.
2009-09-18, 01:02 PM
Erich Wrote:For the people who DO make that level. That doesn't mean it can't be accessible to the others though. I am not saying make it a lvl 100 area or lower. I just think instead of dealing 4k touch and 8k Magic dmg like some monsters there (IIRC) they should take it a bit lower (3k touch and 5k magic?) IDK, you get my point ![]() Neo tokyo is one of the greatest WT areas out there already, so whatever. ShiKage Wrote:So you're saying... Himes - good, kind of stupid that Crow is there though. Anego - horrible, horrible boss. Kills most non HP washed classes in one hit, spawns in the middle of nowhere. Don't even pretend like Showa was a well designed area. It looks ugly as hell and the mobs do completely unpredictable amounts of damage and there's no sense of progression anywhere you go. The only good thing about Anego is that it gives a lot of exp. Everything past Anego is exactly the same. Toad Boss - also horrible, for the same reason Showa is horrible. Stop making bosses that people can't go to, JMS. Bosses aren't harder just because people can't survive unless they HP wash. Kaede Castle - okay, sure we need some of those items to drop from monsters instead of being Gach-only, but it's kind of retarded for them to all come from this place. Maps are even more confusing and pointless than the CWK maps. World Tour is also notorious for having a ton of mindless, poorly designed quests. Don't be so easily appeased by easily obtainable items with good stats and good exp. I'd prefer quality, well designed and balanced content with only small rewards than a giant pile of crap with a couple gems in the center. I do like Singapore and CWK's training spots, Latanica is alright, and CWKPQ is okay I guess (it's fun but also poorly designed), but the rest of those areas are also garbage.
2009-09-18, 01:06 PM
Tykian Wrote:You sir, are an idiot. Ew.... XiMenDing and Nightmarket is stupid and the only thing about Formosa which is good are the Mobs there with amazing HP:EXP ratio... As for NeoTokyo, not much comments.
2009-09-18, 01:16 PM
ShiKage Wrote:See.. Like I stated above... You people can't seem to take things for what they are. Learn to have a challenge for once... Mirai Toukyou was made for a CHALLENGE, not to be another, "lolyouhitmeIdieyoulevel1000times," area. Oh really? Because that isn't what you had to say before. Shikage Wrote:OH COME ON! WHY ARE THEY ADDING MORE OF WHAT ALMOST NO ONE CAN GET TO?! >_> I hate Nexon Japan right now. They need to add more important stuff than stuff that is near impossible to do.... Shikage Wrote:Bleh, I guess you people don't see how much Mirai Toukyou sucks balls... I mean, you can't get anywhere without a party of 6 or more people with more than 15k HP... The items for each quests that you're supposed to collect from each mob are a LOT rarer than a Ribgol from Tengu, or Ilbis from Vikings, or whatever you want to compare them to. The only way Dennis and I got them on JMS was to get 4x drop and it still took most of the 4x drop to collect only two of them with 4 people killing constantly. We haven't even gotten past the first area yet because NO ONE goes there anymore and NO ONE will assist us in killing even the first boss in the area because it just SUCKS... If Nexon Japan adds this with NOTHING half way decent in the patch, I'm just going to quit JMS. Nexon Japan has just become utterly pathetic... Shikage Wrote:But it's not any different than Pink Been. Damage won't help unless you have the HP to survive the damage they deal... If you don't have enough HP to surivive 13k+ damage, you can't get past even the first area... Hell, even NORMAL MOBS deal more than 8k damage there. It's a stupidly hard area that you cannot get past unless you spend tons of real money on HP washing and have TONS of connections in-game. http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthr...p?t=13365&
2009-09-18, 01:28 PM
Dusk Wrote:Anego - horrible, horrible boss. Kills most non HP washed classes in one hit, spawns in the middle of nowhere. Actually, any class at all can kill an anego o.O If you know how to play your character, its not hard at all. I could pin anego with a lvl 120 NL with lvl 1 TT any day. And did you forget about Bodyguards & GB? One of the best boss runs, EXP wise and drop wise that doesn't need 20+ people to kill.
2009-09-18, 01:40 PM
TheTyphoon Wrote:Actually, any class at all can kill an anego o.O If you know how to play your character, its not hard at all. I could pin anego with a lvl 120 NL with lvl 1 TT any day. And did you forget about Bodyguards & GB? One of the best boss runs, EXP wise and drop wise that doesn't need 20+ people to kill. How the hell do you kill Anego as a melee class or mage without getting hit by the slap?
2009-09-18, 01:46 PM
TheTyphoon Wrote:Actually, any class at all can kill an anego o.O If you know how to play your character, its not hard at all. I could pin anego with a lvl 120 NL with lvl 1 TT any day. And did you forget about Bodyguards & GB? One of the best boss runs, EXP wise and drop wise that doesn't need 20+ people to kill. Body guards and GB?... Drop wise?... mind telling me a little more because for all I know GB only drops dark emerald earrings, I wouldn't consider it a worth drop.
It is obvious he warmed up to neo tokyo, as he was 13x 14x when it was released, and 155 now. He can use it now. TL;DR: horrible unless you can visit it.
Also, think about it this way: JMS is underpowered compared to SEA and GMS, and they can do it just fine, not asking for nerfs. Why do we at GMS have to ask for nerfs when we are 10x more powerful then that? Dusk Wrote:How the hell do you kill Anego as a melee class or mage without getting hit by the slap? watch videos, there are ways to kill it as a melee class. and i've seen mages try to solo it. they have ranged attacks you know, they just dont pin it. byakugan Wrote:Body guards and GB?... Drop wise?... mind telling me a little more because for all I know GB only drops dark emerald earrings, I wouldn't consider it a worth drop.and thats why i said "that dont take 20+ ppl to kill" and i didnt notice you said dark emerald earrings. gb drops gold emerald earrings which sell for 50m i also forgot to mention that anego drops YSS, which sell for 60-70m avg
2009-09-18, 01:53 PM
Neo Tokyo on GMS?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, plz. ShiKage Wrote:See.. Like I stated above... You people can't seem to take things for what they are. Learn to have a challenge for once... Mirai Toukyou was made for a CHALLENGE, not to be another, "lolyouhitmeIdieyoulevel1000times," area. See, like I stated before in another post, you people can't seem to understand that NEO TOKYO'S MONSTERS DEAL INSANE AMOUNTS OF DAMAGE, MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR RANGED PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT WASHED SINCE LEVEL 1 WITH TONS OF INT EQUIPS TO TRAIN OR EVEN HAVE A CHANCE TO DEFEAT MOST OF THE BOSSES. Most of the time, even HB would be useless. Many of them just deal too much damage, therefore making the area GARBAGE. I won't change my opinion on Neo Tokyo until they lower the weapon and magic attack of ALL the monsters, significantly. GMS, instead, has proved that a boss fight can be really challenging even if the bosses deal really low damage, like in the case of CWKPQ. I was able to survive a full CWKPQ run at level 100 once, WITHOUT A PARTY OR HB. Though, the bosses were hard anyway (see Rellik, which can deal 1/1 attacks + stuns and poison attacks in a very short time, making you die easily, if you don't use all cures and potions fast). THIS is what I call CHALLENGING. Making bosses deal tons of damage just is useless and doesn't make them challenging: it makes them IMPOSSIBLE to defeat for ranged jobs. Which totally defeats the purpose of Neo Tokyo of being challenging. I really hope NEXON America has understood that, therefore will not release Neo Tokyo unless all the monsters will be nerfed. At least, that way, even ranged people will be able to have a chance to defeat the most powerful bosses of Neo Tokyo. If Aufheben deals 24k damage, what's next? The uber-1337 final Neo Tokyo boss, which deals 29999 damage every attack? Bleh. Neo Tokyo? World Tour? NO, thanks. I'd rather get some ACTUAL Masteria content or other updates like Aran or Balrog boss. Also, the fact that you either have to have a REALLY (and I mean REALLY) hard quest or buy a Cash Shop item to enter Neo Tokyo is just.. almost like going back to the past when GMS got the Haunted Mansion and only people with Halloween Cash Shop clother were able to enter. I say "almost", because, this time, you have the choice to complete the quest, but it IS really hard, and will probably lead most of the people with NX to buy the Cash item. GG, NEXON Japan, GG. Combattente Wrote:BAW Again, think about what JMS has been able to accomplish with neo tokyo with nearly any attack equips, and the fact they are horrible bossers. You DO see bowmen in those videos. Sure they are 18x, but they ARE there. I get what you are saying, but when you are 18x with average equips GMS wise, then talk. Just because some classes can't do it very well 3/4ths through their maple career doesn't mean it is useless and a horrible area for every class and is the worst area in Maplestory. It's better then shanghai.
2009-09-18, 02:16 PM
Neo Tokyo is great for bossing, but thats pretty much all you can do. From what I have heard there are ZERO viable training spots, regardless of how high your level is.
2009-09-18, 02:17 PM
JMSers are horrible Bossers? Erich must you go out of your way to make yourself look like an idiot?
Doubt it. GMSers suck at bossing. We are thrown every advantage at every turn, and still JMS can do anything we can do.
2009-09-18, 02:20 PM
Nah, its true
Some JMSers are simply little to no good at bossing. I'm speaking from experience. Oh, and with the release of Neo Tokyo, Himes become crap because they can inflict curses now..
2009-09-18, 02:25 PM
Oh that's sexy, MapleSEA is getting NT. It seems to be popping up everywhere these days I guess it's just a matter of time before GMS gets it. I really like this area so no complaints from me if we do.
2009-09-18, 02:26 PM
Maybe so, but GMSers are far from superior, again, we have advantages far and beyond you(JMSers), yet we do no better than you(JMSers) do.
In any case, Himes with curses makes me laugh. Heartily. What kind of curses though? We talking Weakness and Curse? or Darkness and Lock? (please oh please the latter)
2009-09-18, 02:29 PM
Tykian Wrote:Maybe so, but GMSers are far from superior, again, we have advantages far and beyond you(JMSers), yet we do no better than you(JMSers) do. Seal, Stun and Weaken. |
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