What do you associate with 9/11?

You wanna know what I associate to 9/11?

Crowded security in airports. Damn those terrorists. They made it more unpleasant to travel by plane.

Your opinion of course.

#464.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5...all_time/5

My dad's birthday

#464.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5...all_time/5

Rolling Stone featured the Jonas Brothers on one of their mag covers. They have pretty much lost most of their credibility.

Rolling Stones featured the Jonas Brothers on one of their mag covers. They have pretty much lost most of their credibility.

Judging by their recent and semi-recent performances, the Rolling Stones have had no credibility for a very long time. They are like one of those 64 year old morbidly obese men that ride on Harley Davidsons trying to look cool, recalling what they were like 44 years ago, and not realizing that nobody gives a shiit anymore.

Judging by their recent and semi-recent performances, the Rolling Stones have had no credibility for a very long time. They are like one of those 64 year old morbidly obese men that ride on Harley Davidsons trying to look cool, recalling what they were like 44 years ago, and not realizing that nobody gives a shiit anymore.

No retard. Rolling Stone magazine. Way to troll.

the inspiration for this awesometastic bus billboard.

the inspiration for this awesometastic bus billboard.

Perverted science has a well-established history of concocting inhuman experiments where human subjects are subjected to torture and lethal agents to test a scientific hypothesis. Nazis did this in concentration camps, Japanese did it to Chinese in their own concentration camps, and there are a few high profile psychological studies that are completely illegal by today's ethical standards, (Stanford Prison Experiment, Milgram Experiment.) I wouldn't say science of that sort is any better than 9/11, so it's not religion you're talking about, it's "religion" that's comparable to the scientific studies I mention above.

Perverted science has a well-established history of concocting inhuman experiments where human subjects are subjected to torture and lethal agents to test a scientific hypothesis. Nazis did this in concentration camps, Japanese did it to Chinese in their own concentration camps, and there are a few high profile psychological studies that are completely illegal by today's ethical standards, (Stanford Prison Experiment, Milgram Experiment.) I wouldn't say science of that sort is any better than 9/11, so it's not religion you're talking about, it's "religion" that's comparable to the scientific studies I mention above.

the CIA used to test drugs on people without telling them in the 80's and no riots were had, people were too busy being hippies. the point of that thing is supposed to say that science has contributed more towards the advancement of human thought and society than religion has, in that religion is viewed in that context as a hindrance to development of the scientific process, which is far from the truth. people attribute religion to sitting in church and listening to an old guy in a robe stand up before a group of glass-eyed and bored people, prattling on about the stories of people long since decayed into worm fodder. religion and science used to go hand in hand, and some sciences were viewed as a religion in the past. not sure if alchemy can fall into that category, but its the first that comes to mind for some reason.

*shrug*

the CIA used to test drugs on people without telling them in the 80's and no riots were had, people were too busy being hippies. the point of that thing is supposed to say that science has contributed more towards the advancement of human thought and society than religion has, in that religion is viewed in that context as a hindrance to development of the scientific process, which is far from the truth. people attribute religion to sitting in church and listening to an old guy in a robe stand up before a group of glass-eyed and bored people, prattling on about the stories of people long since decayed into worm fodder. religion and science used to go hand in hand, and some sciences were viewed as a religion in the past. not sure if alchemy can fall into that category, but its the first that comes to mind for some reason.

*shrug*

Religion has caused literally unmeasurable advances in the arts, preservation of culture, cultural advancement, and education. During the Dark Ages, Christian monks kept libraries of books, and they also rewrote manuscripts, creatiing more copies of them. That saved a LOT of the ancient classics from being destroyed and forgotten, because at that time, nobody cared about books or education. Literally all universities were originally for the purposes of theology, and that's how schools like Cambridge and Oxford started out. Harvard and Yale in America were largely for divinity when they started out too. A lot of architecture and literature and art was either patronized by religious sources or were outright created for religious sources, whether you are looking at the Sistine Chapel, or great composers such as J.S. Bach. While Aristotle stunted scientific growth due to conformity to his beliefs, he is to this day regarded as a great figure in history. There are a ton of religious philosophers, such as St. Thomas Aquinas. Religious architecture is a pillar of human civilization, whether you take the Mayan or Egyptian pyramids, or Middle Eastern mosques, or Christian cathedrals. Literacy in many places was in the ken of religious scholars. Religions such as Buddhism allowed Eastern monks to train to attain spiritual enlightenment and do things physically impossible to most humans, allowing them to live much more fulfilling lives (to them) than most other people. I could go on literally all day.

The most crucial thing about religion, which goes far beyond any of the stuff listed above, is its central role in the development of ethics and morality. Hammurabi's code and the Old Testament/Torah established rules against things against crimes such as murder and adultery in a world where those rules had not really been outlawed, (see greek mythology for a good taste of that.) While some people manage to be twisted and evil while going to church, the vast majority of people are better people precisely because they were brought up with religious beliefs. Even the atheists, who claim to have rejected religion, still follow the same basic rules that religion created in teh first place, becuase those religious rules are at this point SOCIETY's rules. And by the way, a lot of the great scientists, including Albert Einstein, believed in God. Maybe, just maybe, Albert Einstein is in a better position to evaluate the relationship between science and religion than you. Atheism is not the same as science, and science and religion are not mutually exclusive.

tl;dr you are blaming religion for stuff, while completely discounting its pivotal role in human civilization. A lot of atheists do that because that's the only way they can make religion seem useless. It's one, big, fat straw man. A lot of really really useful stuff happened because of religion, and it is ignorant, (maybe willfully ignorant) to claim otherwise. Blame the whackos -- the Klansmen, the Arab terrorists. Saying that those people are religion is like sayiing Shiiro Ishi or Josef Mengele are "science."

#464.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5...all_time/5

Using Rolling Stones as a credible source for music? Nga plz.

Missing my favorite TV shows because 911 news and tributes were on every freaking channel.

Not intentionally necroposting or anything, nor starting to invoke a flame but being patriotic I really have to comment on this.

It's rather disheartening to see people really undermind the event that happened. The number of people killed is the tip of the ice burg. On that day America lost it's confidence, they lost their idea of control, and many lost family on that day.

Because of that one event, an event which the one responsible (Leader anyway) was never caught and presumed dead, had left our country is at a near state of a second depression. What that man did, how caniving and evil it was, was in fact a genious tactic. To the public initially it was "were going to kick some arab ass" that the two towers are just two buildings. What the public didn't realize was that George Bush, either retarded or settling a vendetta that his father never got the chance to finish spent everything we had and then some to back up America's bark. That my fellow southperrians is poor leadership skills. His pride of not being the President to screw up (he essentially did none the less) got ahead of the needs that needed to be addressed. Before 9/11 our country was in a good stable enviroment, florishing. Because of that one cotastrophe we were thrown into a war blindly where they endured and outlasted us.

I saw the mentioning of forcing democracy on Iraq and such and how that is wrong. To an extent I can agree from face value its wrong to force a government on another country. However we killed their leader, and wanted to break their sexist and barbaric government, by instituting our government. For the most part the balance does work. People argue politicians are evil, caniving and really don't want to do the country any good. I really can't agree with that, their opinions differe and once again, face value, their decision vs this decision is an obvious mistake. However a politician's idea is to weight out the lesser of the two evils and by his own judgement decide where to put their vote. Essentially it should be popular vote by the state but in some instances they know whats best.

People have lost faith in our government with conspiracies, irrational judging, and corrupted propaganda view. The freedom we have has become a double edged sword as they believe those freedoms allow them to be invincible. That individuality is an excuse of being disrespectful and ignorant to our leaders. It dissapoints me.

I associate 9/11 with 10 days after Teacher's Day.

Missing my favorite TV shows because 911 news and tributes were on every freaking channel.

OhmygoD im so happy its not just me, on the day it happend i was like wtp where are my morning cartoons

9/11 = bestest swimming buddies' birthdays =)


I know 3 people born on 9/11. I feel bad for them cause everyone makes a terrible ordeal out of something that happened what? 8 years ago? AND it's on their Birthday! At least it doesn't phase them at all.

I remember 9/11/01, i was in elementary school and people were all like T.T i was like WHEN'S LUNCH EVERYONE?????

They were like there's been a terrible tragedy and then o_____o No School?

Oh man i loved 5th grade lol