Corsairs and Avoid

Either something is wrong with the avoid formula, or something is wrong with Corsairs, because there is no way in hell I got missed 19.6% (221/(250*4.5)) of the time in the HT run I just went to. I noticed one miss the entire first run, and about five total on the second run. Most of them were off of my boat. Hell, I don't think that's even the 2% avoid I'm supposed to be guaranteed. I miss my Bowmaster avoid...

Aw damn, I guess we need to revisit the avoid formula then.

It's probably either a boss thing, or a magic attack thing. Or a boat thing.

Yeah, not really narrowed down much.

It's probably either a boss thing, or a magic attack thing. Or a boat thing.

Yeah, not really narrowed down much.

I don't think it's a boat thing.

Corsair thing*

At 178 I think I have 209 avoid with mw20 [blue belt and quest medal]

And I do get miss at HT. I think some of the attacks i.e. mana burn are 100% hit rate. Most of the time I get hit is at the beginning but whenver we're attacking the 3 heads (Especially left and mid) I notice a lot of misses. I just tank it and usually last 10min+ before it breaks. Never really timed it but it's in that ballpark range

I think some of the attacks i.e. mana burn are 100% hit rate.

Mana burn is not 100% hit rate.

Mana burn is not 100% hit rate.

I'm 136 with about 180 avoid. I definitely noticed a bunch of misses at Zakum today. It felt like 10% misses, not a ton, but noticeable.

Zakum misses rock, specially the stun pillar of doom misses, ill be like the only one unstunned and i can show off my 5XK's to people <3 crit im actually considering getting my black belt for this reason only, the str and dex are meh @ this level but i love being missed

Zakum misses rock, specially the stun pillar of doom misses, ill be like the only one unstunned and i can show off my 5XK's to people <3 crit im actually considering getting my black belt for this reason only, the str and dex are meh @ this level but i love being missed

omg QFT much?! except that's only happened like ONCE, EVER, since I started zakking on my corsair. Dang boat so slow.

omg QFT much?! except that's only happened like ONCE, EVER, since I started zakking on my corsair. Dang boat so slow.

Lol, i find it happens quite often during Zak maybe not like.. 50% of the time, but a significant ammount... and being missed by1 pilliar while every1 else is stunned can let you throw out several hundred thousand damage even not on apple + the avoidability has a dual effect, it lets you deal more damage @ that instant, (since your not being hit and dont need to pot/all cure/wait for stun to wear off) and it lets you deal more damage over time due to your ship not dying as much ^_^ i really think corsairs are one of if not the most well rounded jobs, they have massive damages @ a good chunck of the current bosses (that anyone actually can and do kill) they have higher hp (than NL and BM even if its a little ) they have a movement skill for when you need to get in/out of a place fast, they got a freeze and a stun skill, a great mob skill in torpedo, a very nice single target skill that does on avg more than any others except AM's/Bishops..., a lot of useful skills in different situations (178 and still maxing useful stuff) and like come on..... they have a gun.... THUG4LIFE

Lol, i find it happens quite often during Zak maybe not like.. 50% of the time, but a significant ammount... and being missed by1 pilliar while every1 else is stunned can let you throw out several hundred thousand damage even not on apple + the avoidability has a dual effect, it lets you deal more damage @ that instant, (since your not being hit and dont need to pot/all cure/wait for stun to wear off) and it lets you deal more damage over time due to your ship not dying as much ^_^ i really think corsairs are one of if not the most well rounded jobs, they have massive damages @ a good chunck of the current bosses (that anyone actually can and do kill) they have higher hp (than NL and BM even if its a little ) they have a movement skill for when you need to get in/out of a place fast, they got a freeze and a stun skill, a great mob skill in torpedo, a very nice single target skill that does on avg more than any others except AM's/Bishops..., a lot of useful skills in different situations (178 and still maxing useful stuff) and like come on..... they have a gun.... THUG4LIFE

For bolded: Almost the same can be said for Buccaneers. So god damn awesome, and has so many little perks all melded into one class.

For an interesting side note for Buccaneers, I'm noticing Demolition disgustingly powerful that compared to ~3ish minutes to solo Dodo with Barrage + Dragon Strike, I can do it in almost 2 minutes. Fun.

As for avoid for Corsairs, looks like I'm going to be having loads of fun once I can upgrade gear and have >300 avoid. Yeah that's right, Buccaneers can have ninja-like avoid, and they don't even need to pump points into DEX/LUK to achieve that dodge rate.

For bolded: Almost the same can be said for Buccaneers. So god damn awesome, and has so many little perks all melded into one class.

For an interesting side note for Buccaneers, I'm noticing Demolition disgustingly powerful that compared to ~3ish minutes to solo Dodo with Barrage + Dragon Strike, I can do it in almost 2 minutes. Fun.

As for avoid for Corsairs, looks like I'm going to be having loads of fun once I can upgrade gear and have >300 avoid. Yeah that's right, Buccaneers can have ninja-like avoid, and they don't even need to pump points into DEX/LUK to achieve that dodge rate.

Hmmm i guess both Pirate classes are just uber well rounded and over powered before i used to think a Sader was the best (when i was one back in the day) i used to watch videos and i always knew they had higher single damage dps then everyones fav DRK and more base hp n stuff but when i started my corsair it seemed to me a lot like a Hero, you have a killer single target attack (cannon/brandish sept brandish isnt 1 target but shhh) a great mob attack coma and torp and everything else just works well for it all

I don't mean to start anything but I think you are both giving the pirate class too much credit.

I don't mean to start anything but I think you are both giving the pirate class too much credit.

well from what ive seen while playing a friends bishop with different bottomers, a corsair is the first one that can 100% 2hko skeles, and have a very nice mob skill and theyre bossing damage is epicly high, ive seriously only been ksed like twice on Zakum bodies which were both NL's @ a higher level than i with MUCH better equips than i. I also herd from several Bishops that i killed amoung the if not THE fastest of any attacker they've had with them (that being said.. they could have just been humouring me but.....)>.>

and this isssss the Pirate section... did you expect anything else? ^_^

a corsair is the first one that can 100% 2hko skeles

1v1 or mob.

well from what ive seen while playing a friends bishop with different bottomers, a corsair is the first one that can 100% 2hko skeles, and have a very nice mob skill and theyre bossing damage is epicly high, ive seriously only been ksed like twice on Zakum bodies which were both NL's @ a higher level than i with MUCH better equips than i. I also herd from several Bishops that i killed amoung the if not THE fastest of any attacker they've had with them (that being said.. they could have just been humouring me but.....)>.>

and this isssss the Pirate section... did you expect anything else? ^_^

Dark knights are the first correct me if I'm wrong. Corsairs mob skills aren't bad but are far from the best. I'd venture to say shadowers are more 'flexible' considering they arent the best at anything but they are good at everything.

Dark knights are the first correct me if I'm wrong.

It's possible, with 20 Berserk you'd only need 4600 min damage (about 170 atk at low 13x, 156 with MW19 if partied) which is quite easily possible. I can muster 171 atk with Ciders on my Paladin, and I'm sharing most of the gear a DK'd use. There's the question of buying Ciders but I think the 2hko is worth it. You could also shift 4600 toward the middle of the range since crusher is pretty stable (6 hits in a 2hko) but then it's not a guarantee of 100% ko. With 30 Berserk I suspect most spear DKs 2hko.

I don't know what level Corsairs can manage it, though.

it's possible, with 20 berserk you'd only need 4600 min damage (about 170 atk at low 13x, 156 with mw19 if partied) which is quite easily possible. I can muster 171 atk with ciders on my paladin, and i'm sharing most of the gear a dk'd use. There's the question of buying ciders but i think the 2hko is worth it. You could also shift 4600 toward the middle of the range since crusher is pretty stable (6 hits in a 2hko) but then it's not a guarantee of 100% ko. With 30 berserk i suspect most spear dks 2hko.

I don't know what level corsairs can manage it, though.

130

That's with Cannon, I presume