What will probably be the Aran cookie cutter skill build?

Thanks to a really extended patch, I decided to spend some idle time looking at the Aran skill tables. I do admit, just about everything they got seems useful, but we all know we won't have the SP for everything. I wonder if people already have a good idea on what will be needed and what will be least useful to an Aran. I won't be thinking up a level by level SP build, just a general list of what you must have per job.


1st job has 61 SP to go around. I therefore propose the following:

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10 Combo Ability (for Critical Combo in 3rd)
20 Double Swing (obviously)
15 Combo Step (traveling purposes)
16 Polearm Booster (for the -3 speed)

Reasoning: A Flash Jump like skill on a warrior class is not to scoff about. We all know how much better Dawn Warriors are with their own Flash Jump.

If Combo Ability wasn't needed for Combo Critical in 3rd I would have left it at 6. Besides, it's not like you lost anything from a level 16 booster, because after all you still get the -3 weapon speed reduction.

2nd job has 121 SP to go around. I brainstormed the following:

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20 Polearm Mastery (obviously)
20 Triple Swing (obviously)
21 Final Take (Knocks back 10 enemies. Still good)
20 Combo Smash (very powerful 2nd job attack)
20 Combo Drain (gets better and better the stronger you get, and is a max or none at all skill)
20 Body Pressure (This skill is definitely one that is either max or none at all)

Reasoning: Mastery, Triple Swing, and Combo Smash are no-brainers.

Combo Drain seems weak, but I believe that it will only begin to shine in 4th job when there is either massive HP washing and/or the Aran's damage is through the roof. It may be entirely possible to train on enemies without spending a single HP pot.

Body Pressure seems weird, but depending on whether it stuns the enemy, or grant godmode from the enemy, the damage reflection is hard to pass up because it's free damage.

For Final Take I decided 21 is good enough is because the level 30 version only knocks back 2 more additional enemies when at 21 you can already knockback an impressive 10. Personally at the top training areas I don't really need the need to knock back 12 enemies; 10 is already plenty.

For 3rd job you get 151 SP, so I thought of the following:

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20 Combo Critical (obviously)
21 Final Toss (dump points goes here. Seems least useful)
30 Combo Peril (Even more powerful finisher than Combo Smash)
20 Rolling Spin (seems like a better version of Final Take, since it costs less SP to hit 12 enemies, and a 1 second stun can give a little breathing room to recast buffs or whatnot)
20 Full Swing - Double Swing/Triple Swing (Is actually one skill instead of two. Powers up staple skills)
20 Smart Knockback (who wouldn't want to knockback Pink Bean with 10k damage?)
20 Snow Charge (A free 10% bonus damage on non ice immune/resistant is awesome)

Reasoning: Combo Critical/Peril are must haves.

Snow Charge is a free 10% damage to non ice monsters, which is a huge plus for a class that mobs like crazy, plus the slow is really nice to have.

The Full Swings power up our staple attacks, which is always nice.

Smart Knockback makes it easier to reduce how often enemies will attack you.

The reason I put spare points for Final Toss is because the damage increase for the enemies in the air seem really minuscule because it requires setting up the enemy for the bonus damage. Now I ask why deal a measly 110% to 12 enemies for a bonus +100% damage (which for Aran multipliers doesn't seem much at all) when you can kill them faster without Final Toss and/or push them forward with Final Take for a bigger mob?

4th job seems tough, but figuring out 3rd job was actually trickier. There is 243 SP to dsitribute

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20 High Mastery (obviously)
20 High Defense (obviously)
30 Final Blow (Hits two more enemies than Combo Smash, but doesn't require a combo counter)
30 Combo Tempest (HELL. YES.)
30 Combo Barrier (Arans can constantly only take 68% damage per hit. This will make them as hardy as any warrior out there)
30 Overswing - Double Swing/Triple Swing (Is actually one skill instead of two. Combined with the Full Swing version and I smell extremely powerful staple attacks)
30 Maple Warrior (dump skill points go here. Still a 12% STR increase)
30 Freeze Standing (Power Stance for Aran)

23 spare SP from 4th!

Reasoning: Believe it or not, 4th job has way less of a skill point problem. In fact, Aran will have excessive skill points in spite of maxing out all 4th job skills including Maple Warrior!

In fact, Arans in 4th job CAN get all their Aran related skills AND a level 30 Maple Warrior with 23 skill points to toss around. That's counting IF the Aran can afford Maple Warrior 30 otherwise they will actually have 33-34 SP to toss around.

I hope whoever makes an Aran gets a delightful read from my post created out of boredom.

*Thank you Takebacker for pointing out the Full Swing/Overswing skills only need 20/30 to max, powering up both attacks instead of one at a time. Posts were editted accordingly.

After reading 1st job spoiler: Combat step isn't like FJ, it only launches you so fast your brain explodes when you use it off of a ledge. Otherwise you can't jump shoot it, and it doesn't work in mid air. It still moves you enough for it to be worth it though.

2nd job i agree with.

3rd job: I don't like combo peril nor rolling spin. Peril doesn't do as much damage as smash, and it takes more than triple the combos to pull it off, which is a pain in the ass and very limiting. You seem to think rolling spin is like rush. It isn't. It doesn't move you, and all it does is stun enemies. Not very useful imo.

Full swing is one skill that powers up both double and triple swing. It doesn't take 40 SP, it takes 20.

That means you can max toss. I like toss, +100% damage is cool.

4th job: Same thing for overswing, it's 1 skill.

I hope whoever makes an Aran gets a delightful read from my post created out of boredom.

I came. I might actually use this sort of a set up because you seem to have described a very nice path and usefulness chart.

Interesting post. I'll be making an Aran no doubt when they get released in GMS and this will be helpful in deciding skill builds since I haven't put much thought into it myself.

After reading 1st job spoiler: Combat step isn't like FJ, it only launches you so fast your brain explodes when you use it off of a ledge. Otherwise you can't jump shoot it, and it doesn't work in mid air. It still moves you enough for it to be worth it though.

2nd job i agree with.

3rd job: I don't like combo peril nor rolling spin. Peril doesn't do as much damage as smash, and it takes more than triple the combos to pull it off, which is a pain in the ass and very limiting. You seem to think rolling spin is like rush. It isn't. It doesn't move you, and all it does is stun enemies. Not very useful imo.

Full swing is one skill that powers up both double and triple swing. It doesn't take 40 SP, it takes 20.

That means you can max toss. I like toss, +100% damage is cool.

Will edit more.

Hold up, does that mean that Overswing in 4th only needs 30 SP to power up both instead of 60?


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Original post revised. Wow, Arans have it really easy with skill points compared to other classes.

Hold up, does that mean that Overswing in 4th only needs 30 SP to power up both instead of 60?


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As does full swing, yes.

You can pretty much max every skill in their entire book. :f6: Win.

Man, I seriously thought it was going to be tough figuring out skill point distribution because I thought Full Swing Double/Triple Swing and Overswing Double/Triple Swing are separate skills. Boy was I dead wrong. Someone needs to note/sticky that.

This is what I'm doing for my Aran as we speak. Please correct any error or post any suggestions. I want my Aran to be well prepared. Thanks.


> 1st Job <

Level
10 ~ 1 Double Attack
11 ~ 4 Double Attack
12 ~ 6 Double Attack 1 Combat Step
13 ~ 9 Double Attack
14 ~ 11 Double Attack 2 Combat Step
15-17 ~ 5 Combat Step
18-21 ~ Save 12 SP
22 ~ 15 Polearm Booster
23 ~ 20 Double Attack (MAX)
24-26 ~ 9 Combo Ability
27 ~ 10 Combo Ability (MAX) 7 Combat Step
28-29 ~ 13 Combat Step
30 ~ 15 Combat Step (MAX) 16 Polearm Booster
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Combo Ability (MAX)
Double Attack (MAX)
Combat Step (MAX)
Polearm Booster (16)
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>> 2nd Job <<

Level
30 ~ 1 Triple Swing
31 ~ 2 Triple Swing 1 Polearm Mastery
32-37 ~ 19 Polearm Mastery
38 ~ 6 Triple Swing
39 ~ 7 Triple Swing Save 2 SP
40-44 ~ Save 17 SP
45 ~ 20 Combo Smash (MAX)
46-49 ~ 19 Triple Swing
50 ~ 20 Triple Swing (MAX) 1 Final Take 1 Body Pressure
51-56 ~ 19 Body Pressure
57 ~ 20 Body Pressure (MAX) 3 Final Take
58-66 ~ 30 Final Take (MAX)
67-70 ~ 12 Combo Drain
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Polearm Mastery (19)
Triple Swing (MAX)
Final Take (MAX)
Combo Smash (MAX)
Combo Drain (12)
Body Pressure (MAX)
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>>> 3rd Job <<<

Level
70 ~ 1 Full Swing
71 ~ 1 Rolling Spin 3 Full Swing
72-76 ~ 18 Full Swing
77 ~ 20 Full Swing (MAX) 1 Final Toss
78-83 ~ 18 Combo Critical
84 ~ 20 Combo Critical (MAX) 1 Snow Charge
85-90 ~ 19 Snow Charge
91 ~ 20 Snow Charge (MAX) 2 Smart Knockback
92-97 ~ 20 Smart Knockback (MAX)
98-106 ~ 28 Final Toss (MAX)
107 ~ 30 Final Toss (MAX) 1 Combo peril
108-116 ~ 28 Combo Peril
117 ~ 30 Combo Peril (MAX) 2 Rolling Spin
118-120 ~ 11 Rolling Spin
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Combo Critical (MAX)
Final Toss (MAX)
Combo Peril (MAX)
Rolling Spin (11)
Full Swing (MAX)
Smart Knockback (MAX)
Snow Charge (MAX)

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>>>> 4th Job <<<<

Level
120 ~ 1 Overswing
121 ~ 2 Overswing 1 Final Blow 1 High Mastery
122-130 ~ 29 Overswing
131 ~ 30 OverSwing (MAX) 3 High Mastery
132-140 ~ 30 High Mastery (MAX)
141-150 ~ 30 Freeze Standing (MAX)
151-

Wait, if Arans have enough SP to max everything in 4th job with a spare 23, and it only takes 22 to max all of the other skills in the other jobs, then there's going to be 1 annoying SP left over?

Wait, if Arans have enough SP to max everything in 4th job with a spare 23, and it only takes 22 to max all of the other skills in the other jobs, then there's going to be 1 annoying SP left over?

Heroes will.

I think aran will be the hardest to predict.
We need to FEEL out how the comboing system would work.
It might be more important to spread skills rather than clump them.

Which build is realyl power and pwnage >O

Wait, if Arans have enough SP to max everything in 4th job with a spare 23, and it only takes 22 to max all of the other skills in the other jobs, then there's going to be 1 annoying SP left over?

Hero's Will.

Peril doesn't do as much damage as smash

Level 30 Combo Smash: 700%
Level 1 Combo Peril: 1020%

derp.
It's range is also 1.33x longer, and it hits twice, giving it higher critical damage.



Body Damage sucks. No one is going to walk into a monster purposely just to do an extra crappy hit, and the stun is most likely interruptible. Rolling Spin is a joke too. 1 Second stun with the shittiest AoE Range in the game?

Level 30 Combo Smash: 700%
Level 1 Combo Peril: 1020%

Combo smash = 30 counters.
Combo peril = 100 counters.

Derp?

Combo smash = 30 counters.
Combo peril = 100 counters.

Derp?

Depends on what you are fighting and how fast you kill. Mobbing too.

Combo smash = 30 counters.
Combo peril = 100 counters.

Derp?

You want to Combo Smash every time you have 30 Counter?

Depends on what you are fighting and how fast you kill. Mobbing too.

In third job you might as well assume either typhons or himes at 9x, probably the latter since typhons are hard to hit.

@ above: Since it kills the mob faster, yeah, lol.

High Mastery and High Defense have 30 levels each, not 20.
So you have 3 SPs to spare.
Rolling Spin is crap.

I've read so many mistakes in this thread, that I'm on replying all of them...

Guys, Aran is an easy class. I mean, don't make builds before you know how skills work. The best thing is what I did. When I advanced, I got 1 point into everything I could. Then, I decided, and maxed first what was more obviously useful.

Don't rely on guides... Especially CrazyLazy's one. It's a really bad build...