Ask a Warrior Thread.

HP per lvl gain = approximately 100/1.6

(in other words, a warrior's HP with hb = approximately 100*lvl)

EDIT: nevermind the 80~85 HP/lvl, that's 1 AP's worth of HP with Hb, a reference I had in mind since a distant past.

HP per lvl gain = approximately 100/1.6

(in other words, a warrior's HP with hb = approximately 100*lvl)

EDIT: nevermind the 80~85 HP/lvl, that's 1 AP's worth of HP with Hb, a reference I had in mind since a distant past.

Er the reason i ask is I'm doing an experiment. I'm comparing damage with hp wash (roughly 4.5k needs to be washed) vs blood build. Now this process only works for DrK's but..because i don't know the level to hp gain then I'll just my hp as an example.

I have 13.6k unwashed, so I need 4.4k to be able to HB to 30k. Now if I were to blood build, (5 ap=250 hp roughly) that's 18 levels of no str increase. 18*5=90 less str. So it's like having 90 base dex which I know everyone and their mom will say sucks. However dex is overkill because level can replace it. I can't say if it be quicker or the same because I dont know the hp:level ratio but by doing this; you get 30k hp around 145(including hp gain). 90 str is equilavent at that level ratio; around 5-6 str. We'll say 5, 18 weapon attack sacrafice. However wouldn't you able to full zerk at every boss (besides anego/PB) make up that 18 weapon attack? I mean I would figure it nearly triple your damage, and I don't think 18 extra weapon attack would give yout hat kind of upgrade

In other words kind of a quick steroid at the cost of 18 weapon attack, or you could be patient and level to 16x (roughly 20 extra levels) to get both 18 weapon attack and zerk. This also saves you nearly 300$ in nx worth it?

if youre looking at reaching 18.5k hp w/o hb before level 200 as a dk, dont bother washing any more. spend that 300k nx on better equips.

if youre looking at reaching 18.5k hp w/o hb before level 200 as a dk, dont bother washing any more. spend that 300k nx on better equips.

The point is I wonder if blood building 90 str rather than washing it would be better or worse for me in terms of cost VS efficiency. In other words use max zerk earlier anywhere, vs 18att with zerk later...much later.

you didnt say it so well in the other post.

if your zerk threshold is around 9-10k, you have more than enough hp to do anything but anego. you dont need to wash more. use safety charms if you cant handle it, but you dont need more hp...

Wait my maths out of wack lol I'll correct later but I want to bf only using one ginseig potion pretty much, so I need 12k, 24k total hp in order to use zerk and apple x_x

Wait my maths out of wack lol I'll correct later but I want to bf only using one ginseig potion pretty much, so I need 12k, 24k total hp in order to use zerk and apple x_x

you are very disorganized.

you are very disorganized.

lol its cus I'm at work. I want to be able to bf with zerk and its touch damage be equilavent to 70% of my hp.

^ overall goal.

lol its cus I'm at work. I want to be able to bf with zerk and its touch damage be equilavent to 70% of my hp.

^ overall goal.

Shouldn't that be 40%? :f6: My Dark Knight's hp is just about 26k with hb, and I find zerking Bigfoot using Reindeer Milks to be no problem.

Shouldn't that be 40%? :f6: My Dark Knight's hp is just about 26k with hb, and I find zerking Bigfoot using Reindeer Milks to be no problem.

Oh wow i feel like a dumb ass, in my head i keep thinking ginsings will always be 8k potiosn x_x so yeah I need reindeer milks rofl or something that covers nearly 8-12k damage. Which would make me have to litterally double my hp, which 8k/250; 32 levels T_T..

I don't think ill be zerking bf at this rate lol >_>

Edit: I really must be doing somethgn wrong with my math. Can someone gimme the number of levels of hp washing I'd need to be able to BF with zerk without being one hit koed lol

If your base was 13600 (including hp gear you wear) you need about 28 more AP of HP, or 5 level ups + 21 washes.

If your base was 13600 (including hp gear you wear) you need about 28 more AP of HP, or 5 level ups + 21 washes.

My base is like 8k (Lol) I'm including hb. So 28 ap into hp or 25 ap and 21 washes?

Isn't that 28 vs 46 ap o.O Elaborate please.

My base is like 8k (Lol) I'm including hb. So 28 ap into hp or 25 ap and 21 washes?

Isn't that 28 vs 46 ap o.O Elaborate please.

My base is 16k, hb is 26k, and Zerk is 13k. You're not even close...You need at minimum 12k, even though he sometimes hits higher than that.

My base is 16k, hb is 26k, and Zerk is 13k. You're not even close...You need at minimum 12k, even though he sometimes hits higher than that.

For the 2nd time what is your level. I'm trying to determine how much I have to add in hp in order to zerk while fighting bf.

I can zerk BF fulltime just fine with 17.8k HP. Sure it's risky and 1hitKO, but if you know what you're doing, you'll be fine. I killed a few Shadowers, NLs, Buccs, etcs.. that messed with my BFs and still managed to resume zerking 100% afterward.

If anything, my HP wouldn't be sufficient to zerk HT, Anego and the like, but other bosses I can dish them without dropping a sweat.
Higher HP only makes training zerk easier.

EDIT: If you insist on having max HP, then here's a simple way to work out the number of lvlups + AP uses to achieve that.
x = lvl up
y = Ap use

I have 13.6k unwashed, so I need 4.4k to be able to HB to 30k

Code:

100x + 80y = 4400*1.6 = 7040
5x = y (every level up, you apply 5 times more APs)
<=> x = 14.08; y = 70.4

Plug-in: 14.08*100 + 70.4*80 = 1408 + 5623 = 7040.
So in total you need 14 level ups AND 70 APs that come with them. So buy 70 more resets.

I can zerk BF fulltime just fine with 17.8k HP. Sure it's risky and 1hitKO, but if you know what you're doing, you'll be fine. I killed a few Shadowers, NLs, Buccs, etcs.. that messed with my BFs and still managed to resume zerking 100% afterward.

If anything, my HP wouldn't be sufficient to zerk HT, Anego and the like, but other bosses I can dish them without dropping a sweat.
Higher HP only makes training zerk easier.

EDIT: If you insist on having max HP, then here's a simple way to work out the number of lvlups + AP uses to achieve that.
x = lvl up
y = Ap use

Code:

100x + 80y = 4400*1.6 = 7040
5x = y (every level up, you apply 5 times more APs)
<=> x = 14.08; y = 70.4

Plug-in: 14.08*100 + 70.4*80 = 1408 + 5623 = 7040.
So in total you need 14 level ups AND 70 APs that come with them. So buy 70 more resets.

Thank you. I appreciate you doing the math as well but I would have done it if had the formula. And I repeat thers no way im wasting 210$ for an easier time. So 70 str sacrifice..is that worth the damage loss in order to zerk pretty much anywhere? Guess we'll find out! (Also is this 70 ap with my current 8k base) (its 13.6k with HB) lol

Think those are my last questions on this subject.

For the 2nd time what is your level. I'm trying to determine how much I have to add in hp in order to zerk while fighting bf.

My bad, I didn't see it before. My Dark Knight is 184.

Alright, well, I'm a 105 crusader, I level at a pretty good rate lately, and I'm almost done with Improving MP Recovery. Then I don't know what to throw my SP in. I had put two SP into Shout a while ago to see the animation for lulz, and all that's left is Shout and Armor Crash. Two mostly-useless skills if I read correctly. So, what would have a better effect of SP in it than the other? Shout or Armor Crash?

And if they're so useless, someday I could consider taking SP out of them like people take out of FA for Brandish. But still, to get to 4th job you can't have any loose SP...

Alright, well, I'm a 105 crusader, I level at a pretty good rate lately, and I'm almost done with Improving MP Recovery. Then I don't know what to throw my SP in. I had put two SP into Shout a while ago to see the animation for lulz, and all that's left is Shout and Armor Crash. Two mostly-useless skills if I read correctly. So, what would have a better effect of SP in it than the other? Shout or Armor Crash?

And if they're so useless, someday I could consider taking SP out of them like people take out of FA for Brandish. But still, to get to 4th job you can't have any loose SP...

You can't take out a 3rd job skill point and put it in a 4th job skill point if that's what you're implying. I can't think of any use for armor crash other than gobies, I think crimson guardians may do defense up as well? I don't recall. But er, whatever you want pretty much, you won't use either skill in the long run.

You can't take out a 3rd job skill point and put it in a 4th job skill point if that's what you're implying. I can't think of any use for armor crash other than gobies, I think crimson guardians may do defense up as well? I don't recall. But er, whatever you want pretty much, you won't use either skill in the long run.

Some things I read got me confused, so sorry about that part.

I might go with Armor Crash, since that seems to have more use than a blue tiger that will end up doing only a hundred or two on monsters and soon after nothing.