HT Pendants No Longer Hammerable?

I don't believe a company has any right to terminate your account for abusing a glitch they never officially announced should not be abused. Otherwise that gives any player the assumption that it was intended. If anything, for the HT pendants, reduce them to +1 and leave it be. The people who got them to +3 probably said, hey, cool, I can get this to +3 with this hammer thingy now. They didn't say, oh good another glitch to exploit to the fullest. Edit: At worst, all I've heard is, "Okay, this can't be right," which still isn't certain knowledge.

Even if people did, there's still got to be quite a few who had no idea. Don't be a plantain to everyone because one group of people 'abused' something. Killing all of their work on the game overall is not the solution. Now, if this were a glitch that was announced as a glitch that is in the process of being fixed, and should not be abused, go for it. The player was informed and there is no reason for continued abuse, without some sort of malicious intent. I'll just go and say that if you don't read the updates it's your own damn fault.

Yeah, but that's the thing with Nexon, they never communicate. So we have no other choice but to assume if something is a glitch or not.
Still, this was obvious. As I said, if they wanted 2nd and 3rd egg to work, they would've added the quests for it without the help of Vicious' Hammer.

And yeah, a ban might not be needed, but the least they should do is revert all the glitched HT pendants back to their original stats with 1 egg on it. This would only be fair to all other players who chose not to abuse this.

I don't believe a company has any right to terminate your account for abusing a glitch they never officially announced should not be abused. Otherwise that gives any player the assumption that it was intended. If anything, for the HT pendants, reduce them to +1 and leave it be. The people who got them to +3 probably said, hey, cool, I can get this to +3 with this hammer thingy now. They didn't say, oh good another glitch to exploit to the fullest.

i agree this it would be stupid to ban players that have +3 pendants.

now you sound like people i kill in game. why should i care about what some kid across the country/world thinks of me

Wow, I've never met anyone as pleasant as you. Shame I can't play in Broa. I feel we'd have become best friends.

I was making a statement about your attitude. I'm just letting you know how others might feel about you, so it doesn't come as a shock when people start to shun you. Just a tip for life from a noob to a "pro" like you.

If Nexon isn't going to rollback the people with +52 Pendants, then they shouldn't have added this new Pendant rule with the Hammers. Just seems unfair. Oh, and don't give me crap about how "life's unfair".

Wow lots of butthurt on this thread. First things first, those in Scania have a reason to be pissed, but at Excellent for hogging the cave and monopolizing the flow of +52 pendants, not at people in general for having them.

Secondly, people ALWAYS abuse glitches before they're officially known as "glitches." Let me share a list with you of all the people, according to the logic of half of those who have posted, who should be banned/experience a rollback:

1. Bishops who used Elemental Wands before they were fixed should be rolled back all the levels they gained or be banned.

2. People who obtained a MoN via trade, whether traded by someone, purchased, etc. should be banned/rolled back.

3. People who have obtained Onyx Apples by APQing with a party that abused the Stage 1 glitch should be banned/rolled back.

4. People who took advantage of 8x EXP during events before the Family System was fixed should be banned/rolled back.

And so on and so forth. I would have to say the vast majority of Maplers, whether in GMS or any other version, has taken advantage of a glitch before it was "fixed" or whatnot. Like Ghandi said, "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind." Get pissed off by one glitch and rant for radical bannings and rollbacks, and pretty soon your not-so-clean records get pulled up too.

I'm not going to lie; I have a +52 pendant, which my friend helped me get the first day of the patch. Do I want them fixed? Absolutely not. And ironically it's an issue of fairness: peach and moan all you want, but MoN's are a godly, must-have equip for non-Magician classes. A 12 attack pendant? Damn! It's always the Magicians who get shafted with the unbalanced formulas, and for once we get something that, even though anyone can use it, is a really nice benefit for us, and yet pissed off people request their removal. Thanks, guys. Have fun with your broken pendants while we relish our 2k damage increase from 22 INT.

Honestly, if Nexon fixes it like they did Ele Wands, I don't mind. But a ban and a rollback for any and all with one of the pendants? That's overkill.

I agree with Dan's logic. EVERYONE has exploited something. Be it the infinite respawning cakes in Ludibrium last year, or something else. Mages get the shaft everywhere, and as far as I know, MoN's will still be better for people that already have their secondary stat at 4.

all people who used 8x exp should be banned/rolledback

sfdlk
froznlite already beat me to it

That's not what he said...

I'm surprised at how fast that they took notice of it and fixed the problem. It's a good thing that they fixed it, now they just need to revert all the pendants that have already been Hammered to be fair to the rest of us.

It's amazing Nexon reacted this fast, but I don't think there's any way they could make them revert back. No one that has one of these now is going to want to sell it, so searching FM is out, and I don't think they're up to searching each and every account for them.

Or make +52 all Magician-only pendants, considering MoN vs. HT pendant is not "fair" already between classes.

Kinda doubt it's possible.

doubt that would happen. theres already been so many class discrepancies in this game. 1h gm scrolls anyone?

[COLOR="red"]Other class' butthurting about this Exchange quest glitch will be over soon. I'm fairly certain what GM scrolls are left will be used in this year's Lunchbox quest flurry of activity. The question now is to sell mine or use them on my own Lunchbox....

All in all...quit bitching about these pendants, ffs. If you have one? Great, put it to good use. If not? Better luck next time. Don't complain to those who did decide to take advantage of it.[/COLOR]

Or make +52 all Magician-only pendants, considering MoN vs. HT pendant is not "fair" already between classes.

For pineapple's sake, magicians don't even use the same damage formula. Of course they don't gain the same benefits from every equip slot. I can't scroll my earrings for STR, so my Paladin has 10 str less than it could have, if they'd made every stat equal. Meaning 10 base stat less than a thief with luk earrings or a bowman with dex earrings. Boo hoo. There are no shoe int/luk scrolls either, which screws over magicians too. Why not peach about that instead? Warrior helms don't add as many stats as any other class's, which is sad because I'd love to have a good Warrior helm. But that can never happen. Hell, the Brown Bandana adds more useful stats than any Warrior helm, period.

Without Black Hats there is no strive to fix problems sooner.

Nexon need's better PR with its user-base to "formally" address these issues when they're brought up and resolved. Not sit on it and go "Surprise, we 'fixed stuff'" (at least this notice was edited to say something). Something like the dead GM Blog, with information that explains stuff (rather than make us guess more). Maybe I'm just too use to following things that provide newsletters on their sites. Maybe I'm just too use to commit logs and bug lists.

That's not what he said...

reread wut he said then

[COLOR="red"]Other class' butthurting about this Exchange quest glitch will be over soon. I'm fairly certain what GM scrolls are left will be used in this year's Lunchbox quest flurry of activity.

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whether they will be used up or not. they were there and have been used on many weapons. anyone who says HT pends should be rolled back should also be saying all weapons scrolled with gm scrolls should be rolled back.

It's amazing Nexon reacted this fast, but I don't think there's any way they could make them revert back. No one that has one of these now is going to want to sell it, so searching FM is out, and I don't think they're up to searching each and every account for them.

Code:

delete from PlayerObjs where VNUM = 1122000 and incStr >= 25;

Done.

Alternately;

Code:

update PlayerObjs
set incStr = 22, incDex = 22, incInt = 22, incLck = 22, tuc = 0
where VNUM = 1122000 and incStr >= 25;

SQL is a retardedly easy data manipulation language. Both of those are pretty plain english understandable, and either of them would instantly fix the problem on the next server check or patch if they wanted to.

Code:

delete from PlayerObjs where VNUM = 1122000 and incStr >= 25;

Done.

Alternately;

Code:

update PlayerObjs
set incStr = 22, incDex = 22, incInt = 22, incLck = 22, tuc = 0
where VNUM = 1122000 and incStr >= 25;

SQL is a retardedly easy data manipulation language. Both of those are pretty plain english understandable, and either of them would instantly fix the problem on the next server check or patch if they wanted to.

And what happens to the people who used Chaos Scrolls on theirs?

And what happens to the people who used Chaos Scrolls on theirs?

They're set back 200mil?

And what happens to the people who used Chaos Scrolls on theirs?

They become yet another casualty of Nexon's idea of glitch cleanup, whine a lot and Nexon continues to not care?

Could just set the threshold up from 25 to 35 to minimize that. There are numerous variations and tweaks.

Questions like yours might be why they haven't acted on it yet. Or they could just be waiting for the engineering people to come up with a solution. Or they could be leaving them as is. Or they still be arguing it out amongst themselves.

Why not just remove the two extra slots that 52 stat pendants have. Then when they do finally decide to put the other egg quests in (or whatever needs to be added) the rest of the world will be able to catch up and be happy and walk on rainbows.

Code:

delete from PlayerObjs where VNUM = 1122000 and incStr >= 25;

Done.

Alternately;

Code:

update PlayerObjs
set incStr = 22, incDex = 22, incInt = 22, incLck = 22, tuc = 0
where VNUM = 1122000 and incStr >= 25;

SQL is a retardedly easy data manipulation language. Both of those are pretty plain english understandable, and either of them would instantly fix the problem on the next server check or patch if they wanted to.

? what about pendants that are above average? mines fucking 23 dex and 41 avoid. I don't wanna lose the 41 avoid >_>

Why not just remove the two extra slots that 52 stat pendants have. Then when they do finally decide to put the other egg quests in (or whatever needs to be added) the rest of the world will be able to catch up and be happy and walk on rainbows.

Because a used slot doesn't keep a record of the changes that went into its use. The changes edit the permanent stats of the item, including adding 1 to the used slots. There is no reversing an individual slot.

? what about pendants that are above average? mines pineappleing 23 dex and 41 avoid. I don't wanna lose the 41 avoid >_>

There are no natural 25s, especially no natural "all stats >= 25".

Working out the exacts of the query wasn't the point - The point was how simple it is to write one to counter the "Oh it can't be done" crowd. All you have to do is type in the criteria and tell it "go", the point was it's very simple to make targeted changes.

CRY HARDeR

@Eos, considering they've made them un-hammerable, it would be easier for them to SQL target all pendants that have been hammered, remove all hammer-additions, scroll enhancements(or all but the 1st(which would be sloppy set to 22 all)) and if they removed all, add an egg to the players invenotry.

@Eos, considering they've made them un-hammerable, it would be easier for them to SQL target all pendants that have been hammered, remove all hammer-additions, scroll enhancements(or all but the 1st(which would be sloppy set to 22 all)) and if they removed all, add an egg to the players invenotry.

That gets a tad more complex though, also it rewards glitch abuse, which is a nono in their book. Resetting them all to 22ish and taking all remaining slots is easier, especially since there've been enough server checks in the intervening time to erase "hammered" counts on anyone who hopped worlds.

I vote permaban Excellent/TakenOver anyways, just because.

That gets a tad more complex though, also it rewards glitch abuse, which is a nono in their book. Resetting them all to 22ish and taking all remaining slots is easier, especially since there've been enough server checks in the intervening time to erase "hammered" counts on anyone who hopped worlds.

Ok true enough. In any case, at least something will be done...

TheRoyals of Mardia, too.

LOL... Jealous i see. TheRoyals did nothing wrong. Lack of communication from the game developers is no ones fault.

Who knew it was a glitch? its not up to us to figure out what's a glitched and what isn't. In other game versions the ht pendant is capable of going to 52 all stats, so whats to say this wasn't nexon's way of implementing it. Obviously we see now that it was a glitch, but with so little being said from nexon, how are we suppose to know.

You've been left out Pavel sucks for you. Guess being an @ss didn't payout for you this time around. Forget about your HT group now that the htp crave is over.

You failed and now need to stfu.