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Oh god. Do not want. CPQ 2 is so crapped up. -_-
At least Mu Lung Dojo is in there. Yay for that!
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What's the level requirements for CPQ2?
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Cyanne Wrote:Better than bowmasters and corsairs leveling faster than bishops =/ not for me, but I don't even care about leveling off of it, I just want to actually have these skills be useful instead of "Existing" but there being no possible way for you to see them in game.
The dojo sucks because of the stupid potion restriction anyway, taking out the skills for it completely ruined everything. Of course I am going to try to get a belt, but considering none of the bosses like to summon that means no potions and that means no one's going to get very far.
Dojo used to be cool, but they ruined it. CPQ2 was pomegranate from day 1 and they still managed to make it worse.
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IsaacGS Wrote:not for me, but I don't even care about leveling off of it, I just want to actually have these skills be useful instead of "Existing" but there being no possible way for you to see them in game.
The dojo sucks because of the stupid potion restriction anyway, taking out the skills for it completely ruined everything. Of course I am going to try to get a belt, but considering none of the bosses like to summon that means no potions and that means no one's going to get very far.
Dojo used to be cool, but they ruined it. CPQ2 was pomegranate from day 1 and they still managed to make it worse.
Wasn't CPQ supposed to have a 1/2 attack ring or something? :f6:
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IllegallySane Wrote:Wasn't CPQ supposed to have a 1/2 attack ring or something? :f6: yeah, that's how they made it worse. They took that out.
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Who knows, maybe we will get CPQ2 with the attack rings  that would be a big PLUS 1 for Nexon if they did that.
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Sn1perJohnE Wrote:Who knows, maybe we will get CPQ2 with the attack rings that would be a big PLUS 1 for Nexon if they did that. Ridiculously unlikely since those rings never made it out of tespia.
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Why couldn't they make that bar charge up based on the amount of damage you deal? Granted corsairs/BMs would STILL fill it up fastest but this would give the other classes a shot at using the skills as well.
You could use a power up... lets say.... every 5m damage? I onno really I'm just tossing a random ass number out there.
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How bout it being based per class? so it takes so many hits for BMs, but a different amount of hits for Saders/DKs.
Cause nexon is lazy?
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shouri Wrote:Why couldn't they make that bar charge up based on the amount of damage you deal? Granted corsairs/BMs would STILL fill it up fastest but this would give the other classes a shot at using the skills as well.
You could use a power up... lets say.... every 5m damage? I onno really I'm just tossing a random ass number out there. At first it was based on keeping your HP low. The bar charged fast, when it was full you got to low HP, then used the invincible skill. You could recharge it before it ran out like this, so permanent invincibility.
Then it was based on damage dealt. But with hurricane you can fill up the bar practically instantly and with the save points in the dojo they added later, people started saving before papulatus and killing him too fast. Since he still gives full EXP they were abusing this to level too fast.
Now, it's based on damage taken. Since most people who reach the end of the dojo can't get hit by the first 15 or so bosses before they kill them, it doesn't charge at all, and since you can't pot whenever you want you really want to avoid getting hit as much as possible. If you're dodging attacks, then you won't be filling up the bar.
Even when I've done the dojo on 11x wind archer I couldn't get it over 1/4 of the way full with this most recent method. The dojo skills are essentially nonexistent with this because no one can possibly fill it up.
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IsaacGS Wrote:yeah, that's how they made it worse. They took that out.
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
IsaacGS Wrote:Even when I've done the dojo on 11x wind archer I couldn't get it over 1/4 of the way full with this most recent method. The dojo skills are essentially nonexistent with this because no one can possibly fill it up.
This only makes solo Mu Lung PQs a terrible idea. Party MLPQ all the way. Bishops will be a life saver because of no ability to pot.
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IsaacGS Wrote:At first it was based on keeping your HP low. The bar charged fast, when it was full you got to low HP, then used the invincible skill. You could recharge it before it ran out like this, so permanent invincibility.
Then it was based on damage dealt. But with hurricane you can fill up the bar practically instantly and with the save points in the dojo they added later, people started saving before papulatus and killing him too fast. Since he still gives full EXP they were abusing this to level too fast.
Now, it's based on damage taken. Since most people who reach the end of the dojo can't get hit by the first 15 or so bosses before they kill them, it doesn't charge at all, and since you can't pot whenever you want you really want to avoid getting hit as much as possible. If you're dodging attacks, then you won't be filling up the bar.
Even when I've done the dojo on 11x wind archer I couldn't get it over 1/4 of the way full with this most recent method. The dojo skills are essentially nonexistent with this because no one can possibly fill it up.
Not really.
You see many People getting spearmans and priests because they can tank thaier hp and use the first skill.
I've Been in lvl 6x pts (when im 7x) with One 7x priest and one spearman for HB.
We just tank all the high lvl bosses while the priest healed. the bar filled up in like 2 mins and we managed to get to 31 or32 floor when it was crimson barlog and we died. But the damage dealt is sure meant for pt...
Oh btw, you cant get pass 1/4 of the stages with your Windbreaker? Is it because of papa pixie?
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Chameleonic Wrote:Am I the only one not excited about the dojo?
All the Events end on the 25th so that is when I expect the next patch with content to be.
No, i am excited to get a belt
Though i don't like the idea of not using your own pots in the dojo thats why i hated CPQ on my KoC, or am i reading it wrong?
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hoping this is wat the next patch is..
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IsaacGS Wrote:At first it was based on keeping your HP low. The bar charged fast, when it was full you got to low HP, then used the invincible skill. You could recharge it before it ran out like this, so permanent invincibility.
Then it was based on damage dealt. But with hurricane you can fill up the bar practically instantly and with the save points in the dojo they added later, people started saving before papulatus and killing him too fast. Since he still gives full EXP they were abusing this to level too fast.
Now, it's based on damage taken. Since most people who reach the end of the dojo can't get hit by the first 15 or so bosses before they kill them, it doesn't charge at all, and since you can't pot whenever you want you really want to avoid getting hit as much as possible. If you're dodging attacks, then you won't be filling up the bar.
Even when I've done the dojo on 11x wind archer I couldn't get it over 1/4 of the way full with this most recent method. The dojo skills are essentially nonexistent with this because no one can possibly fill it up.
regarding the bolded part. . . that would only make sense if you meant "Then it was based on the number of hits". Otherwise sins, and partially hero's and DKs would have an okayish time filling the bar.
Moving on,
While its true that there's a noticeable different in DPS between say... corsairs/BMs/NLs when compared to DKs/Heroes/Dits (vs everyone else who has crappier DPS). . . making that bar charge by damage dealt would still make it more balanced than by number of hits wouldn't it?
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Wow.. this is indeed great! Mu Lung Dojo.. FINALLY! I was waiting for it..
Too bad.. if it's like Isaac said, then.. everything will be harder. But I still can't wait to do it.. getting the Black Belt will be A REAL pain in the ass, but I'll try anyway.
Also, yay for no Tespia again!
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I just want my black belt!  That bpq was nothing real. >=O
BTW what are the level requirements for CPQ2? Just curious.
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Uncouthist Wrote:Not really.
You see many People getting spearmans and priests because they can tank thaier hp and use the first skill.
I've Been in lvl 6x pts (when im 7x) with One 7x priest and one spearman for HB.
We just tank all the high lvl bosses while the priest healed. the bar filled up in like 2 mins and we managed to get to 31 or32 floor when it was crimson barlog and we died. But the damage dealt is sure meant for pt...
Oh btw, you cant get pass 1/4 of the stages with your Windbreaker? Is it because of papa pixie? I meant I couldn't fill the Skill bar more than 1/4 of the way full even after i'd been through half the stages.
I don't know about doing it in a party, I don't really enjoy bossing in parties so I have always done it solo. Yeah, I imagine it is quite a bit easier with a priest, but that still leaves you high and dry on bosses like papa pixie where he refuses to summon, and so you're left without any MP. That really drains all the fun out of it, having to cower in the corner using regular attacks to keep him at bay.
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IsaacGS Wrote:I meant I couldn't fill the Skill bar more than 1/4 of the way full even after i'd been through half the stages.
I don't know about doing it in a party, I don't really enjoy bossing in parties so I have always done it solo. Yeah, I imagine it is quite a bit easier with a priest, but that still leaves you high and dry on bosses like papa pixie where he refuses to summon, and so you're left without any MP. That really drains all the fun out of it, having to cower in the corner using regular attacks to keep him at bay.
Not really, just kill him before you run out of MP.
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