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Chameleonic Wrote:When does using a Knuckle start to out damage knuckleless? Goggleemoticon

I'm lv 27 on my Thunderbreaker and in my stat screen my damage without a knuckle is like 80 damage more than with one. Oh I should say thats with a lv 10 knuckle. lol

Knuckles always outdamage bare hands at the same level. Bare hands gains weapon attack as you level up, until you hit 2nd job, so that's why it's outdamaging the level 10 knuckle.
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Dusk Wrote:Knuckles always outdamage bare hands at the same level. Bare hands gains weapon attack as you level up, until you hit 2nd job, so that's why it's outdamaging the level 10 knuckle.

If you were to remain perma-1st job, would knuckle-less continue to gain weapon attack?
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MasPan Wrote:If you were to remain perma-1st job, would knuckle-less continue to gain weapon attack?

Good question, and I don't think anyone's tried, but I doubt it. It caps at 31 for both Gunslingers and Brawlers.
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Dusk Wrote:Good question, and I don't think anyone's tried, but I doubt it. It caps at 31 for both Gunslingers and Brawlers.

But, given that certain formulas (avoid for example) change when your job does, it may simply follow the formula endlessly. Granted, having absurdly high barehands damage when you only have 2 skills at your disposal isn't that useful...
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Any tips for soloing lilynouch (the horse chess pice in TT)?
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Worthyness Wrote:Any tips for soloing lilynouch (the horse chess pice in TT)?

You're fine until he's half health, then watch for him turning purple. If you see this, simply go hang on a rope for 20seconds to avoid damage. If he jumps, you jump. If he shoots icicles up, touch him or use Barrage.
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Worthyness Wrote:Any tips for soloing lilynouch (the horse chess pice in TT)?

Pot after every single hit after you see a strange purple aura emerge from him. That signifies damage reflection is up. Well you can also not attack it during that time, but chugging pots is better than wasting your time not attacking.

Or you can Flash Fist/Drain it to death if you're really paranoid.
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Lilynouch is just Leviathan on hard mode. Similar skills except control switching is swapped for DR and the range is ramped up like crazy.
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IllegallySane Wrote:Pot after every single hit after you see a strange purple aura emerge from him. That signifies damage reflection is up. Well you can also not attack it during that time, but chugging pots is better than wasting your time not attacking.
Or you can Flash Fist/Drain it to death if you're really paranoid.

Don't bother attacking during damage reflection, you're only going to do 1 damage per hit. You're better off just waiting.
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Does barrage bypass DR?
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USMC Wrote:Does barrage bypass DR?

No, why would it?
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MasPan Wrote:Don't bother attacking during damage reflection, you're only going to do 1 damage per hit. You're better off just waiting.

I could have sworn people still deal normal damage to the Horsie when Damage Reflection is still up. Are you sure you're not thinking of Super Defense Up? :f6:
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IllegallySane Wrote:I could have sworn people still deal normal damage to the Horsie when Damage Reflection is still up. Are you sure you're not thinking of Super Defense Up? :f6:

Every attack done while Lilynouch is in Super Damage Reflect (Wdef and mdef) results in 1 damage. Snipe and Heaven's Hammer bypass this.
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Takebacker Wrote:No, why would it?

I mean does the invincible work? o.o

Or you meant it?
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USMC Wrote:I mean does the invincible work? o.o

Or you meant it?

The invincibility works, but you still take the reflect damage.
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Quick question.

On my Thunder Breaker, I was level 52 and training on Roids/Neo Huroids. I would mob them all to the side and after I killed them all it would fill my energy all the way up (Energy Charge was level 12). When I leveled to 53, I added 2 more points into it making Energy Charge level 14. Now it takes forever to charge up my energy while fighting the same things. Is it supposed to do this?
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whybanme Wrote:Quick question.

On my Thunder Breaker, I was level 52 and training on Roids/Neo Huroids. I would mob them all to the side and after I killed them all it would fill my energy all the way up (Energy Charge was level 12). When I leveled to 53, I added 2 more points into it making Energy Charge level 14. Now it takes forever to charge up my energy while fighting the same things. Is it supposed to do this?

I keep hearing the same thing from some other TBs as well. Maybe the charging % takes a huge dip at a certain level.

L> Fiel to clarify. Frown
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It's a typo.


Skill LevelCharge Rate
12130
13135
1414
15145
16150
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Takebacker Wrote:The invincibility works, but you still take the reflect damage.

Okay thanks.

Dusk Wrote:It's a typo.


Skill LevelCharge Rate
12130
13135
1414
15145
16150

That's epic.
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Dusk Wrote:It's a typo.


Skill LevelCharge Rate
12130
13135
1414
15145
16150

OUCH. That's painfulUH!
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