Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread

What are the limitations of a dawn warrior? (I'm wondering if I can zak and pianus, how far I can go into time temple, stuff like that.)

What are the limitations of a dawn warrior? (I'm wondering if I can zak and pianus, how far I can go into time temple, stuff like that.)

[color="#cc8899"]You can Zak, Pianus, and Pap, as proven by Percocet of kMS.
You will take a 20% damage reduction on them, but should still be able to contribute usefully.[/COLOR]

[color="#cc8899"]You can Zak, Pianus, and Pap, as proven by Percocet of kMS.
You will take a 20% damage reduction on them, but should still be able to contribute usefully.[/COLOR]

You take a 5% reduction on Pap and no reduction on Pianus.

Okay, I am stuck between which to max first.

Combo has to take time to gain orbs, and Soul Charge has some elemental effect on it. They both seem to give 1.2x damage, so which is the best choice? It seems I should choose Soul Charge since it has no wait time and also has a bonus effect? However, everyone seems to be choosing Combo instead. Why is this?

Also, which one of these builds is the most efficient:

#1
max soul driver
max combo OR soul charge

#2
max combo OR soul charge
max soul driver

Thanks.

I'm pretty sure some weird numbers add up so that combo actually gives 133% at max (120% with 1 orb). Some of the smarter people on this thread can tell you all about it. Oh, and Soul Driver should always come first, a measly 4/3 damage isn't going to add as much awesome as Soul Driver's godly range, number of targets, and nice damage.


I just watched ShiKage's video (missed the live broadcast) and am totally blown away by the speed of Soul Driver. I though it attacked way slower than regular attacks, like 1.5 second cast instead of .75 second cast. Is this change copypasta'd into GMS too?
[SPOILER=ShiKage's Dawn Warrior video][YOUTUBE]7y9Rnz9-x-A[/YOUTUBE]

I'm pretty sure some weird numbers add up so that combo actually gives 133% at max (120% with 1 orb). Some of the smarter people on this thread can tell you all about it. Oh, and Soul Driver should always come first, a measly 4/3 damage isn't going to add as much awesome as Soul Driver's godly range, number of targets, and nice damage.


I just watched ShiKage's video (missed the live broadcast) and am totally blown away by the speed of Soul Driver. I though it attacked way slower than regular attacks, like 1.5 second cast instead of .75 second cast. Is this change copypasta'd into GMS too?
[SPOILER=ShiKage's Dawn Warrior video][YOUTUBE]7y9Rnz9-x-A[/YOUTUBE]

That video and the live broadcast tripled my motivation to get to 70+. i really really hope the skill works at the same speed here.

I just watched ShiKage's video (missed the live broadcast) and am totally blown away by the speed of Soul Driver. I though it attacked way slower than regular attacks, like 1.5 second cast instead of .75 second cast. Is this change copypasta'd into GMS too?
[SPOILER=ShiKage's Dawn Warrior video][YOUTUBE]7y9Rnz9-x-A[/YOUTUBE]

Update: it's not as fast... Note this guy use it at 00:53, it attacks as fast as it does in all other versions.

 Spoiler

[YOUTUBE]OgTA0Sj4-jo[/YOUTUBE]

Seems sort of weird for JMS to get a completely different version of the skill even though it was released at almost the same time, though.

ShiKage's Japanese Map versus the other guy's Soul Rohen.

'Nuff said.

ShiKage's Japanese Map versus the other guy's Soul Rohen.

'Nuff said.

Would 2 attack speed really cut the cast time in half? Besides, you can see a definite difference in the two attacks, JMS's Soul Driver makes the user swing his sword, while GMS's just makes you stand there, like casting most magic attacks.

Would 2 attack speed really cut the cast time in half? Besides, you can see a definite difference in the two attacks, JMS's Soul Driver makes the user swing his sword, while GMS's just makes you stand there, like casting most magic attacks.

His blade is as fast as my tubes un booster'd blade, and with booster the speed nearly doubles. I don't think the 2 speed will be enough to make that much of a difference, but it'll be a huge improvement.

B> japanese map. :f6:

His blade is as fast as my tubes un booster'd blade, and with booster the speed nearly doubles. I don't think the 2 speed will be enough to make that much of a difference, but it'll be a huge improvement.

B> japanese map. :f6:

try rk. same base att as a decently scrolled map. and you can add a shield.
got a 105 + 16 setup waiting for me at 70 O.o
its gonna rock my world

try rk. same base att as a decently scrolled map. and you can add a shield.
got a 105 + 16 setup waiting for me at 70 O.o
its gonna rock my world

I don't have the money to fund with an attack shield, so the same base att and speed as an RK but it's a 2h sword is a perfect sword for me.

Would 2 attack speed really cut the cast time in half? Besides, you can see a definite difference in the two attacks, JMS's Soul Driver makes the user swing his sword, while GMS's just makes you stand there, like casting most magic attacks.

Yes.

I don't have the money to fund with an attack shield, so the same base att and speed as an RK but it's a 2h sword is a perfect sword for me.

you dont need an attack shield at that point, just scroll one to 95 or so and youll be well off. thats 100%-able. i was only showing off

Can someone clarify just how ShiKage is attacking that fast with Soul Driver?

Ok, I'm confused about Soul Charge. The thread in the Training Center and a lot of other players say that Soul Charge isn't holy elemental, but in JMS, it says it's holy elemental. Is it holy or not? O_o

Can someone clarify just how ShiKage is attacking that fast with Soul Driver?

I believe the JMS coders made a mistake with its coding. =/

Ok, I'm confused about Soul Charge. The thread in the Training Center and a lot of other players say that Soul Charge isn't holy elemental, but in JMS, it says it's holy elemental. Is it holy or not? O_o

It is holy elemental. Or else we'd all be getting Soul Charge before Combo.

Hey, can you tell me how you're attacking that fast with Soul Driver?

EDIT: Ninja'd.

It is holy elemental. Or else we'd all be getting Soul Charge before Combo.

I believe it's actually HALF holy. So 50% of your attack is treated as holy, 50% is neutral. Sorta like comp arrow.

Soul Masters in JMS are broken..

Justin gained almost 6 levels in 3hrs during 2x exp. He probably also used a bit of 4x as well.

Or else we'd all be getting Soul Charge before Combo.

-points to the holy weak bonefish, elder wraiths, and himes-

You'd be a complete fool to go combo before charge.

-points to the holy weak bonefish, elder wraiths, and himes-

You'd be a complete fool to go combo before charge.

You can knock out Combo while at Windraiders, then start adding into Soul Charge in preperation for EWs. EWs have fairly high avoid, so unless you have good acc they aren't an option at 7x.