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I agree with Eos, it was a good fix, and yet people are still whining and peeing themselves. Also, no one in the game was wrongfully banned. Ever. Period.

Ereve to Ellinia and vice-versa already cost 1k, the only time I paid 100 was the first trip off.

I hate to disagree, but... There have been several people who have been banned while doing absolutely nothing.

...I wonder if Nexon forgot that there's no way to leach while you're in the FM?

I agree with Eos, it was a good fix, and yet people are still whining and peeing themselves. Also, no one in the game was wrongfully banned. Ever. Period.

Ereve to Ellinia and vice-versa already cost 1k, the only time I paid 100 was the first trip off.

I hope you know what you're typing before you type it, thanks. Back almost 2 years ago, Mintrified and several of the higher-ups back then in Scania got wrongfully banned for no reason. After contacting a GM, they unbanned her and many others.

I agree with Eos, it was a good fix, and yet people are still whining and peeing themselves. Also, no one in the game was wrongfully banned. Ever. Period.

Really? Explain to me how someone gets banned during a server transfer? I was not on that account for several days. They told me I was banned for a smega. How so? I have no NX, and have not smega'd on that account. Oh well that was last month, so let's be nice and forgive Nexon.

Owait. Another ban. This time I was offline and got banned during the patch.
Along with thousands of others, and about 10 level 200's? What did I do this time? Last time I used an smega was months ago. I had my shop up on that character for a bit titled "- - Point Of No Return - ->" Is that what I got banned for?

Your statement that nobody in the game was ever wrongfully banned is extremely false. My eyes almost burned while reading that.

I hate to disagree, but... There have been several people who have been banned while doing absolutely nothing.

...I wonder if Nexon forgot that there's no way to leach while you're in the FM?

1) "I wasn't doing anything when they banned me" is meaningless. You can be banned for misconduct from 6 months ago if they're just now getting to it. Doesn't matter how innocent your activity at the time they actually do the ban.

2) Leeching isn't bannable anyway and has nothing to do with why everyone's getting banned regardless whatever idiotic babble you've been listening to.

I hope you know what you're typing before you type it, thanks. Back almost 2 years ago, Mintrified and several of the higher-ups back then in Scania got wrongfully banned for no reason. After contacting a GM, they unbanned her and many others.

I can also support this. Anyone remember that a certain curryishott got banned for hacking? That was due to premature programs and/or a combination of premature Nexon-workers.

Also, no one in the game was wrongfully banned. Ever. Period.

I know a few others already replied to this, but what?

You're saying all these 1300+ characters, including 10 lv200's who got banned at exactly the same time for misconduct untill August 7th deserved this ban?

Me and a few friends were hit by this ban as well. We never smega, we never curse, we never ks/scam, as far as I know we've never really did anything wrong. Stop assuming things because it never happened to you. I'd like to see your reaction if you'd ever get wrongfully banned.

This ban was, as far as I see it, caused by a bug/glitch in the autoban system. I mean.. how else can this happen to 1300+ characters at the same time and none of them even knowing of doing anything wrong.

This ban was, as far as I see it, caused by a bug/glitch in the autoban system. I mean.. how else can this happen to 1300+ characters at the same time and none of them even knowing of doing anything wrong.

Unless they were banned by them "GMPolice" message, it isn't the autoban system. The GMPolice IS the autoban system. I know this was glitched at one point because I was hit by that a few months ago, but it was fairly resolved as far as I have seen.

as far as I know we've never really did anything wrong.

There we go.

I also believe, aside from the fail auto-ban, there have been no bannings which do not fit in with the ToS. You must have done something to warrant a ban. Be it 5 minutes ago, or 5 months.

I mean.. how else can this happen to 1300+ characters at the same time and none of them even knowing of doing anything wrong.

It's called a batch job.
The GMs put the name of everyone they've "researched" reports on into a big long list, and the system goes through that list banning everyone on it.

They used to do that fairly often. The sources of their research include but are not limited to - Smega logs, Report logs, system generated "potential hacking" messages they've claimed to have in previous announces, and so on.

It's possible you all showed up on one of those reports for something you didn't do, or were in proximity to, or that you all did in fact do things that they're just now getting to the logs to.

1) "I wasn't doing anything when they banned me" is meaningless. You can be banned for misconduct from 6 months ago if they're just now getting to it. Doesn't matter how innocent your activity at the time they actually do the ban.

2) Leeching isn't bannable anyway and has nothing to do with why everyone's getting banned regardless whatever idiotic babble you've been listening to.

I had heard they were starting to throw some bans out at leechers, but I guess I was misinformed. ^_^

(Just a note- I'm pretty neutral towards leechers. Not a high enough level for them to conflict with me, and even then, I don't think I'd be bothered)

I had heard they were starting to throw some bans out at leechers, but I guess I was misinformed. ^_^

That's just one of the stupid things people spread to foster their own agendas or out of their own ignorance. Nexon has stated publically, and never retracted, that leeching is perfectly fine..

Some people seem to be unable to grasp that just because a ban goes into effect when you happen to be leeching, or standing around AFK, or sitting in the FM, or offline does not mean that is why you were banned.

It's that same mentality that convinces people that since they goperformed Action A without immediately experiencing Consequence B that they "got away with it".

Has anyone had problems gifting before the Server Check? Has that been fixed as well?

Has anyone had problems gifting before the Server Check? Has that been fixed as well?

It's still broken, there are posts on the Nexon forum about it giving the restricted messages.

It's still broken, there are posts on the Nexon forum about it giving the restricted messages.

Fail. I want my sales of gems and Stance 20/Assassinate 30 on my shop mule.

It's called a batch job.
The GMs put the name of everyone they've "researched" reports on into a big long list, and the system goes through that list banning everyone on it.

They used to do that fairly often. The sources of their research include but are not limited to - Smega logs, Report logs, system generated "potential hacking" messages they've claimed to have in previous announces, and so on.

It's possible you all showed up on one of those reports for something you didn't do, or were in proximity to, or that you all did in fact do things that they're just now getting to the logs to.

Still.. shouldn't Nexon actually check if the reports are false or not? As I said, I don't remember doing anything wrong. If Nexon just bans based on reports from others and don't even check them, then of course many people will get wrongfully banned.

Also it's kinda stupid it just says "blocked for misconduct". If they would at least put a reason for it, then maybe we'd know why we were banned. Now it was just BAM, 1300 characters banned without any notice and everyone has no clue what it was about.

I still believe this was a glitch/bug. But I guess we'll all have to wait a week or so to get a response on our tickets since Nexon doesn't know how to have good support.

Still.. shouldn't Nexon actually check if the reports are false or not?

Also it's kinda stupid it just says "blocked for misconduct". If they would at least put a reason for it, then maybe we'd know why we were banned.

Bulk bans don't get individually tailored reasons. They don't just shove every name that's been alerted in the past six months into the list, they do whatever level of research the report requires before deciding if it warranted an a ban or not. Anybody's guess what that might entail, could be flipping a coin from the way some of these go.

Also, no one in the game was wrongfully banned. Ever. Period.

It is widely accepted that no program is perfect. Therefore, relying on an auto banning script makes your statement false.

Human are error-prone creatures. We make mistakes. Further more Nexon's properties is not anywhere near quality. History shown countless mistakes/errors made by them. This fact also invalidate your statement. The most visible false banning was from the CWK patch issue where they released the patch with missing data (some ropes etc) which caused manually patched players to get banned. Also, a mass ban from bigfoot's so-called "abuse".

You're not Nexon, so you cannot state for Nexon that they have never wrongfully banned anyone. You're not one to get banned falsely (assummingly) so you cannot speak for them either. The only thing you can speak for is your own ignorance.

If anything, you should be sitting on benefits of the doubt to these players. To Nexon, each character is just another grant of sand, but to each individual player, they're much more valuable.

Bulk bans don't get individually tailored reasons. They don't just shove every name that's been alerted in the past six months into the list, they do whatever level of research the report requires before deciding if it warranted an a ban or not. Anybody's guess what that might entail, could be flipping a coin from the way some of these go.

It shouldn't matter. In terms of a constant and fair policing system, they should be handing out bans within hours or at the very least, a few days of the instance. The banning of hundreds of characters instantaneously, together is by far an idiotic and lazy move.

Police don't wait until the 3rd passing of Jupiter in the 4th month all over the world to capture criminals, they do it as soon as they have evidence that leads them there. Banning is a form of discipline, not something that is -arbitrarily- done to supplement some form of misplaced justice. If their ToS was broken in some way, shape or form, then they should act as soon as act-able information comes their way. Whether it be finding a hacker by accident, or having screens and video submitted of the action happening.

I myself admin a website with others that has a game on it, and we have to deal with people who try to make multiple accounts or hack the database. Not so much anymore, but there is always someone who wants to test the rules. None of the staff or myself, would tolerate such an action, and understand that punishment is meant to send a message while the act is still fresh in their mind. Banning them from the game 5 months after they made multiple accounts does nothing and is a waste of time. Anyone can see this.

TL;DR message: If you're going to have a justice system, don't just half-arse it.

I myself admin a website with others that has a game on it, and we have to deal with people who try to make multiple accounts or hack the database.

And do you deal with a staff of less than 14 who handle over half a million player characters worldwide multiplied by 3 to 5 games? Scope makes a difference.

I never said their legal system was fair. I never they were doing it right. I'm not defending them. I'm just answering "What they're doing", and whether any of us agree with how they do it, it is what it is.

For us, its 4 to sometimes 50 players. Granted, its not as big as the Nexon ratio, but we do have a way to deal with everything. I know what you're saying, and I knew that before I posted. I neglected it, because it should be a non-issue for a corporation.
For pete's sake, the Report function tries to add them as Family.

In all honesty, we shouldn't speculate too much into what really happened. If it was, indeed bans, then they should have released a banned list correct? The end of the month is nearly here, so hopefully we'll either get, A. An apology for an error. B. A list of who was banned and what for. I could think of a few things that happened that no one covered...

With all of the new things going on and such, its not impossible to glitch out the system accidently. I mean, look at Pokemon Blue/Red. Maple isn't as simple, but who ever would have figured out that talking to the Old Man and then flying to Cinibar would freak out the code.