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Curarr Wrote:so? is it that hard to read ?
"I understand that it works differently than in different versions , but it works as it was intended to in GMS"
automatic or not , does that change the content of this response? no.
Do i need to go get a image of a ticket that said they'd never get the elemental boosts for mages, and were "working as intended"? A blin dman could have seen this coming eventually, if you are a bishop with an E-wand, haha.
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Curarr Wrote:yet you STILL ignore the fact they said they're aware that its different than other versions 
who cares bout your AM friends exactly? i as a bishop can tell you that i bought it because of such tickets , its been a year sir
and yes , hes lvl 77.. sure , at harps he leeches with a 1hitter , sure its easy
but wait till this nub gets to 120+ , as if he actually trains.. find someone to "train" with without getting way less exp
This argument is going no where. Nexon states they can change anything they want without notice, that's the facts. They're changing Elemental Wands/Staffs to hinder Bishops who wield it now. There is nothing you can do, being butthurt won't solve it.
Best to sell it real quick and find another staff/wand. There are more options then just the damn Elemental Wand/Staff, which original design was to be ONLY for Archmages, which has been reverted back to it's original design indeed.
P.S.
Blizzard did this pomegranate with World of Warcraft too, all MMO companies do it at a point. I guess they get bombarded so much they start to blow people off. It's a very bad habit, but somewhat understandable.
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SuperNerd Wrote:I'm not ignoring it, I already clarified that we all know Nexon lied in those tickets.
Yeah, they came out of the blue with this and I agree that that was wrong. But regardless, even if you don't care about my AM friends, they had the right idea, as did the Bishops, obviously.
I don't leech. I never have and never will. I'm against it as leeching is pointless and I find it ruins the game. But to each their own, I suppose. I also like how you refer to me as a nub just because I'm lower-leveled, when I'm clearly wiser and have your little argument pinned; you just refuse to accept that I'm.. no, everyone arguing here, is right.
The Maple world is not going to end just because Bishops can't 1-hit kill monsters anymore. It's not going to implode on itself because they'll get a SLIGHT reduction in damage now. I think, quicker than you know it, the Maple world will move right along about its daily business.
That's really all there is to say. I'm not going to argue anymore because there's honestly no point in it. YOU ARE acting like one , but im not surprised since youre lvl 77  bishops are not the only ones who screwed sir
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Curarr Wrote:YOU ARE acting like one , but im not surprised since youre lvl 77 bishops are not the only ones who screwed sir
Ok, I could go to edit details right now and change my details to my level 75 Sniper, that does not change the fact I still have a 142 Shadower. Get your eyes off that bloody side bar, it means nothing. And it says Marauder, which means in all likelihood he left his main and created a pirate when they came out. You're really annoying me now.
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Curarr Wrote:YOU ARE acting like one , but im not surprised since youre lvl 77 bishops are not the only ones who screwed sir
Nope leechers are too which makes this 100% victory for the maple world.
Every whiny excuse you've given about that dumb ticket by a dumb moderator who time and time again has proven to not know pomegranate has been debunked solely by the fact that IT WAS CHANGED. If it was meant to be like that, why would they change it? Because it wasn't meant to be like that, Nexon is just terribly incompetent.
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I was planning on making a perma-noblesse. No more now.
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RDal Wrote:Ok, I could go to edit details right now and change my details to my level 75 Sniper, that does not change the fact I still have a 142 Shadower. Get your eyes off that bloody side bar, it means nothing. And it says Marauder, which means in all likelihood he left his main and created a pirate when they came out. You're really annoying me now.
Thanks, RDal, and all the others who backed me up. But I don't think he'll listen, regardless. He's ignorant and will probably, as expected, just repeat the same things to "prove" we're wrong and he's right in some non-existent way.
Anywho, great patch. Can't wait. I'ma go to bed now and wake up to bliss (hopefully). Goodnight all.
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I will only like this patch if they get the mass banning situation fixed. Over 1500 characters were banned last night at around the same time, even 10 lv200's.
I prepared everything to get lv3 maker right away and get myself a reverse dagger, and now I'll have to wait till August 7th if they don't do anything about it. >_>
Good thing they finally fixed the elemental wands. I feel sorry for the Bishops who used the AP reset sale to lower their luk to 4 though. D: But yeah, they all should have known it was coming.
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Finally.. all the diamond hoarding pays off. *-*
And for the ele wand argument -
Someone logged a ticket when elemental wands first came out, reporting that the weapons gave no elemental boost. Nexon said the same thing. "This was intended, please do not confuse GMS with other versions", or something to that effect. A few patches later, they added the elemental boost. The damage reduction for holy moves should have been expected, regardless of what Nexon said in tickets. Bishops who took the risk and bought one need to cut their losses and sell theirs before the price drops.
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2009-07-29, 08:12 AM
(This post was last modified: 2009-07-29, 08:21 AM by Kalovale.)
loddlaen Wrote:I don't wanna be someone who analyses every word but
Its oddly worded that it suggests that they won't recieve a penalty for using a Wand or Staff with the Holy element.
Does this mean new weapons coming out?
Quote:Bishops have been rebalanced to receive a penalty for using an Elemental Wand or Staff without the Holy element to use Holy skills.
No one seems to have noticed this so I'll play the grammar whore here. I think the meaning is clear enough.
Re-modeled version: Bishops now receive a penalty for using A to cast skill B.
A being: An Elemental Wand/Staff without Holy element (in other words, all Ele Wands/Staves)
B being: Genesis/Angel Ray/Bahamut/Holy Arrow..
EDIT: One word on the drama. Whether the Ele Wands/Staves are meant to work like that or the GMs are meant to respond like that is the issue here. If you choose to be believing, fine, I myself am too believing. Did you know the risk? Yes. Did you choose to take it? Yes. Who caused the damage? Nexon.
So if you don't see this as fit, do something about it. Start a campaign: logging mass tickets, quitting, stop buying NX,.. whatever you see fit. Just don't humiliate yourself where it's not worth it.
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Kalovale Wrote:No one seems to have noticed this so I'll play the grammar whore here. I think the meaning is clear enough.
Re-modeled version: Bishops now receive a penalty for using A to cast skill B.
A being: An Elemental Wand/Staff without Holy element (in other words, all Ele Wands/Staves)
B being: Genesis/Angel Ray/Bahamut/Holy Arrow..
EDIT: One word on the drama. Whether the Ele Wands/Staves are meant to work like that or the GMs are meant to respond like that is the issue here. If you choose to be believing, fine, I myself am too believing. Did you know the risk? Yes. Did you choose to take it? Yes. Who caused the damage? Nexon.
So if you don't see this as fit, do something about it. Start a campaign: logging mass tickets, quitting, stop buying NX,.. whatever you see fit. Just don't humiliate yourself where it's not worth it.
I wonder if anyone else noticed that they specifically said "an elemental wand WITHOUT the holy element. Butthurt bishops take note, this keeps the future open for holy-element wands/stavesUH!
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Curarr Wrote:YOU ARE acting like one , but im not surprised since youre lvl 77 bishops are not the only ones who screwed sir Seriously, how come you are not banned yet? Southperry is a place for intelligent discussions. If you judge people by their level and want to show off because you are a bishop, go somewhere else.
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MasPan Wrote:I wonder if anyone else noticed that they specifically said "an elemental wand WITHOUT the holy element. Butthurt bishops take note, this keeps the future open for holy-element wands/stavesUH!
Dreaded thought... Holy ele wands? Let's lower the NLC potprices while we are at it! xP
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[COLOR="Teal"]HELL YEAH
ELE WANDS JUST PLUMMETTED IN PRICE. TY NEXON
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morning every1 =).. Well this is going to suck for most bishops who bought ele wands XD. But i didn't =). I'm happy with my dragon staff that's at avg. ele wand m.attk stats anyways. TIME TO MAKE REVERESE AEAS HAND STAFF! RAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWRRRRR
Kortestanov Wrote:Seriously, how come you are not banned yet? Southperry is a place for intelligent discussions. If you judge people by their level and want to show off because you are a bishop, go somewhere else.
It's the interwebz... that's what individuals w/ no brain & can only base themselves on their high characters lvl & class do
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Quote:Elemental Wand Changes
Bishops have been rebalanced to receive a penalty for using an Elemental Wand or Staff without the Holy element to use Holy skills.
This is one really welcome fix! Gratz to all Archmages out there!
And ohhhhh, can't wait to make my Cygnus!
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Quote:Elemental Wand Changes
Bishops have been rebalanced to receive a penalty for using an Elemental Wand or Staff without the Holy element to use Holy skills.
Wow, it took them long enough to address this. The mage ranks are going to look a lot different now, that's for sure. Glad I stuck with a dragon staff.
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I'm LOLing so hard at the Elemental Wand change. So much for those "C/O 900mil"s I saw in the FM last night before the patch. Lmfao!
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Well thats a fine surprise. seems like Mages got what they deserved after all... Glad i didnt get a Ele Wand for my Bishop after all D:
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RDal Wrote:Not his fault almost every Bishop apparently has less than half a brain...
What kind of ridiculous generalization is that. When were we ever CERTAIN that the elemental weapons in GMS were going to go one way or another. That uncertainty was the heart of eos's campaign after all. The fact that someone had to organize a campaign to seek the truth from nexon obviously suggests people were NOT certain.
Yes, there was a risk attached (a risk I personally didn't take), but after all those months of no information from nexon, and all those tickets suggesting that these weapons were not going to be changed, how can you say people have "half a brain" when so many factors were pointing to these weapons being safe to use.
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