lol Cygnus DPS

I remembered something. . . What level of blessing do they have?

I remembered something. . . What level of blessing do they have?

A.F.A.I.C.S., Dusk left out the Blessing attack, must be because it's different for everyone.

P.S. He also left out the Echo of Hero!

A.F.A.I.C.S., Dusk left out the Blessing attack, must be because it's different for everyone.

P.S. He also left out the Echo of Hero!

I left out Echo and Blessing on both spreadsheets. Blessing could be added as a fill-in box, I guess. I didn't think Echo was important to add since it affects everyone's damage uniformly and wouldn't change the data at all.

Am I the only one not seeing anything?

Am I the only one not seeing anything?

No, the link broke some time ago for unknown reasons. Spreadsheet is in 4th job DPS thread if you're interested, otherwise uh sorry get someone else to tell you the numbers :/

Do I have any more reason to keep playing my paladin?

Do I have any more reason to keep playing my paladin?

yeah, get to 200 instead of 120. and dont you like ACB? unbreakable stun <3

Wow soul masters are sorta ridiculous, will they get nerfed?
Also I'm wondering if you took into account certain builds?
Like going as low dex as possible for the soul master, going low dex or dexless for the Nightwalker, and etc. And won't additional WA like always have more of an effect for Nightwalkers if it can be obtained?

Basically what I'm trying to ask is will Nightwalker's be able to have the scale tipped more in the favor of them if they have better equips?

I'm guessing not; because assuming both characters had equal funding due to the Soul Master's ridiculous %s it'd probably still be better. I don't get it - where's the flaw? I don't see why Nexon would just make 1 class better at 1v1, mobbing, survivability (HP), etc, etc.

edit:
do they not have stance?

Of course the scales would tip in favor of the Night Walker if they had better equips. What kind of question is that?

At level 120 in GMS the Night Walker would be stronger if it was dexless, but that's not going to push the numbers more than a couple thousand. You can always include what-if scenarios, but this is how the classes rank with equal scrolling and equal equips. I'm not going to compare a Night Raven dexless to a Dragon Carabella.

However, keep in mind that claws and thief equips are generally more expensive than warrior equips, so it's likely that the Night Walker would be even weaker than advertised here.

"Can't wait to out damage 14x Heroes"
"Can't wait to out damage 16x Heroes"

Dear gawd, you'll be lvl 120...I'd take a 16x hero to Zak/HT over 120 soul masters anyday even with this "godly" damage it'll be so nerfed due to level penalties. It won't even be a contest.

But wait...you may out damage them at normal mobs niceeee so you'll be training at lvl 120? What will you need the exp for? lol What else is there to do? Pap is weak now with hardly any worthwhile drops. Wanna BF? I believe he's holy resistant. You'll basically just be wondering around showing off this damage flaunting and looking like an arrogant retard. "Look Look i out damage you at skeles." Big effin deal.
Why are so many people obsessed with out damaging others? Please just play the game and set goals for yourself based on you not based on wanting to out damage others. If you end up out damaging them in the process then GG!

"Can't wait to out damage 14x Heroes"
"Can't wait to out damage 16x Heroes"

Dear gawd, you'll be lvl 120...I'd take a 16x hero to Zak/HT over 120 soul masters anyday even with this "godly" damage it'll be so nerfed due to level penalties. It won't even be a contest.

That's just Greg. It would be wiser to disregard his posts completely.

Of course the scales would tip in favor of the Night Walker if they had better equips. What kind of question is that?

At level 120 in GMS the Night Walker would be stronger if it was dexless, but that's not going to push the numbers more than a couple thousand. You can always include what-if scenarios, but this is how the classes rank with equal scrolling and equal equips. I'm not going to compare a Night Raven dexless to a Dragon Carabella.

However, keep in mind that claws and thief equips are generally more expensive than warrior equips, so it's likely that the Night Walker would be even weaker than advertised here.

Okay; what I meant is did you try and account for the huge affect WA has on Night Walkers (6 Luk per level) as opposed to other classes?
I assume a 10 attack MoN given to both characters as opposed to a HT Pendant would help out the Night Walker more. And a 4, or 5, or greater attack Cape would benefit Night Walkers more than Dawn Warriors.

However, I also assume that making both classes dexless (Dawn Warrior) / low dex (Night Walker) would slightly help out the Dawn Warrior more due to the greater affect additional APs might have on them?

The weapons, though, seem about right in terms of balance because in all likelihood a NightWalker would have slightly less in attack bonuses via scrolling than Dawn Warriors in terms of scrolling.

But yeah; just that type of stuff. I assume they won't make any supermajor differences in DPS, but still.
But we can always self-calculate diff scenarios with the handy calculator you provided so yeah it's all good haha.
Also 1 last thing. Since pure DPS generally only applies to bosses in a real-life (lolmaple) situation - don't people generally boss with apples? Wouldn't that make a huge difference...

Can someone run some numbers to check the nuking capacity of a flame wizard with regards to ohko-ing skelegon mobs?

Can someone run some numbers to check the nuking capacity of a flame wizard with regards to ohko-ing skelegon mobs?

At 120 with no MW? No pineappleing way. A ridiculously well equipped AM would need to be mid 13x at least.

With perfect equips pre-hammer you're looking at a max damage of something near 70k.

Yeah, I wasn't really considering a beef cake mage either. Thanks for the quick response.