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"Rational: endowed with the faculty of reason."
"Reason: a basis or cause, as for some belief, action, fact, event, etc."

Actually yes the actions of the rabid dog are rational for there is a reason as to why it did what it did. The chemical reactions inside of the dog's brain caused it to maul the child, thus there is reason behind the mauling, therefore it is rational. Although it might not be right it is still rational.

I shall say it again, although we might not comprehend why something happened does not make it void of reason. Everything has a reason for occurring for if it didn't, it would not have occurred.

You're trying to cover up a faulty argument by assigning false definitions to terms in your examples. Here is your original argument, with the noteworthy portions bolded:

Everything is rational outside of the world of mathematics. Everything has a reason as to how and why it occurred/existed. If there was no reason as to how or why, said action/object would never have occurred/existed. Although the human mind may not be able to comprehend as to why/how something occurs/exists does not make it void of reason. Therefore, since it exists/occurs, it is rational.

As to find out the reason why/how, go study the mind and how it works.

While everything has a reason behind it, it may not necessarily be rational. Rational is driven by logic. A spree killer shooting up a school is not driven by logic, nor is a rabid dog.

While everything has a reason behind it, it may not necessarily be rational. Rational is driven by logic. A spree killer shooting up a school is not driven by logic, nor is a rabid dog.

Those definitions are straight from dictionary.com, go look for yourself. Rational =/= logical. And arguably a spree killer shooting up a school is in fact logical. Take Columbine for an example. The kids that went ramped there hated almost everyone at the school for numerous reasons, which is why they went and massacred them. They only went and killed those they had something against. Those who they had liked they let walk out unharmed. Who's the one using faulty arguments now?

Yet again, rational doesn't mean its right. Rational means it has a reason behind it. If you can find me a reliable source saying that rational = morally right, then even then your argument isn't very accurate since morals change from person to person. What one person thinks is right might be what others think is horribly wrong.

One last time, the definitions I gave are directly from dictionary.com so how are they false definitions?

Those definitions are straight from dictionary.com, go look for yourself. Rational =/= logical. And arguably a spree killer shooting up a school is in fact logical. Take Columbine for an example. The kids that went ramped there hated almost everyone at the school for numerous reasons, which is why they went and massacred them. They only went and killed those they had something against. Those who they had liked they let walk out unharmed. Who's the one using faulty arguments now?

Yet again, rational doesn't mean its right. Rational means it has a reason behind it. If you can find me a reliable source saying that rational = morally right, then even then your argument isn't very accurate since morals change from person to person. What one person thinks is right might be what others think is horribly wrong.

One last time, the definitions I gave are directly from dictionary.com so how are they false definitions?

The dictionary definitions aren't wrong, what you personally are applying the labels "rationality" and "logic" to are incorrect.

So, do inform me, what are the correct labels to rationality and logic?

Take Columbine for an example. The kids that went ramped there hated almost everyone at the school for numerous reasons, which is why they went and massacred them. They only went and killed those they had something against. Those who they had liked they let walk out unharmed. Who's the one using faulty arguments now?

http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment...94026.html

They weren't poor bullied children. The one boy was a psychopath who wrote frequently about bullying other students and wanting to kill as many people as possible, and the other was a suicidal teenager who was egged into doing it.


Now, onto the topic at hand. I have no problem with gays, so long as gays don't make out in front of me (or anything going farther than that, for males it disgusts me, and for most real lesbians, it destroys too many fantasies ), attempt to kiss me, or pinch my butt. So long as I don't have to ever attend your parades, and so long as we all agree to run over Nazi demonstrators.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhozx819izU

So, do inform me, what are the correct labels to rationality and logic?

Things that stem from emotion and illogical irrational thinking should not be considered logical or rational.

Things that stem from emotion and illogical irrational thinking should not be considered logical or rational.

Ok, but you still didn't answer my question. You just redundantly stated that illogical and irrational things should not be considered logical or rational.

So tell me, what is rational and what is irrational? What is logical and what is illogical?

Ok, but you still didn't answer my question. You just redundantly stated that illogical and irrational things should not be considered logical or rational.

So tell me, what is rational and what is irrational? What is logical and what is illogical?

Rational: stems from logically-based thought and can be defended primarily using logic. e.g theory of relativity, laws prohibiting murder, process of doing taxes. While logic can STEM from emotional underlying beliefs, it can be defended without appeals to emotion or other logical fallacies.

Irrational: stems from primarily emotional beliefs, and cannot be defended by logic. Is supported primarily by charisma, where a leader wills his followers to believe what he does. Logic supporting such beliefs is usually faulty and can be deconstructed easily by a skilled opponent in a rational argument e.g. white supremacist race theory, cult pseudo-religious beliefs.