Quest Kings: Official Version

How did you finish the Veteran Hunter and Celebrity Medal quests?

http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13516

Alright guys I've added a section for Quest Specialist medal owners =]

576. Also Specialist.

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588 && Specialist

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516:

515 in Complete tab:

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Cupid's Courier:

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... and Quest Specialist Medal:

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WizMystery, you can 'fake complete' Donation King title challenge as well, would give you +1 in quest count again. xD

Guess I'll update mine as well, finished all quests again except the Pink Bean one with the masks and stuff.

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640 + 1 from Cupid's Courier = 641 quests completed.

As you can see, I also have the Quest Specialist Medal. :p

WizMystery, you can 'fake complete' Donation King title challenge as well, would give you +1 in quest count again. xD

Guess I'll update mine as well, finished all quests again except the Pink Bean one with the masks and stuff.

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640 + 1 from Cupid's Courier = 641 quests completed.

As you can see, I also have the Quest Specialist Medal. :p

will do.
(EDIT when I do so)
518 with the addition of these now:

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A quick question, does doing repeatable quests add to the amount /800 you need for the medal?

No it does not.

Not exactly done, but would rather not fall out of the top 10 again.

 605+CC+HTPre=607 Quests Completed

I know there are a few repeatable events that I could add in too, but I'd rather do another end of the event/month update later to handle that.

I was talking with ExtremeBeast of Khaini over vent the other day about Quest Kings, and we came to some conclusions about the list that I wanted to propose to the general public. Currently, he has more than enough quests on his Hero to make the list, but chooses not to apply because he doesn't like the way the list is organized. When asked, he responded by saying that the list is essentially "set in stone;" since everyone can do all of any area's quests, what the top quester list really comes down to is who has completed the most event quests, which, as he puts it, is unfair for people who started the game later or whatnot. Why be penalized for not being able to do a quest that wasn't even available when you started playing?

We talked a bit more, and by the end of the discussion I figured that I wanted to ask RDal and the other Quest Kings if they'd like to consider a change to how the list is organized, computed, and built, etc. Instead of screenshotting your total combined quests, we can simply screenshot our quest window opened to the Quest Specialist quest, which shows a number out of 800 completed by which the list would be compiled. This number factors in chain quests that would help people stuck in the middle of things like Jay's Curiosity, or others who maybe can't afford the time/money to finish a the chain at the moment. It also DOESN'T take Event quests into account, which means the playing field is equalized even more to accommodate everyone rather than people who have been playing the longest.

Cons? Obviously, there are a few Maple Island quests here or there that some high levels can't do, as well as Job quests exclusive to 120+ and recent quests added for certain level ranges (ie Manji's Ariant Teleport quest that disappears at Lv. 31 and wasn't around when myself and others were that level). But in the grand scheme of comparing this total to the mass amount counted from Event quests, the number is rather negligible.

In any case, I just wanted to propose this idea and see what people thought. While I don't mind how the current list is done, I do prefer this other method as discussed with ExtremeBeast, for it is frustrating that I will forever be ranked, say, #12 due to my low Event quests total compared to others. What's the point in updating a thread if the list is already set?

Thanks for reading!

Cons? Obviously, there are a few Maple Island quests here or there that some high levels can't do, as well as Job quests exclusive to 120+ and recent quests added for certain level ranges (ie Manji's Ariant Teleport quest that disappears at Lv. 31 and wasn't around when myself and others were that level). But in the grand scheme of comparing this total to the mass amount counted from Event quests, the number is rather negligible.

There are actually quite a few quests in the regular tabs that some people can't do anymore, apparently...

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I currently only have 82 subquests remaining, to my knowledge, which is gonna leave me with around 808 total when by book is empty (unless I strike it rich I'll stop @ 800... those 82 include the 120 mount and Horntail quests). 50 shown (of which 6 are events and thus probably don't count for the total), plus about 15 from Time Temple, 1 unstarted, and another 15 odd subquests.




In any case, I'm past the min requirements so I might as well post my book.

 443+Jay's Curiosity = 444?

My book's gonna be finished @ around 500 quests... lol.

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Going to have to second this. It's practically impossible for anyone who made a late character to ever be able to get to the "top" if you include event quests. This isn't really a ranking thread, just a thread for people to keep tabs on their own quest number.

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yeah i agree with you, my quest window does not even have the maple island tab, since i started playing maple in around july 2005.

now that we have the quest specialist medal, we could make the ranking from this quest, that is a more accurate number.

btw updating my quests, still some to do !

539 quests completed + cupid + secret medicine = 541 i guess :f6:

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I'd be willing to move towards this under a few conditions. Since you are unwilling to count event quests, I not only want maple island quests to be discounted, but in addition to that, I wish for there to be a tally of total available quests made. That is to say, a common number in each field/area quests come from that cannot be exceeded in a certain patch due to passable quests via leveling or other means. This means that number 1 would commonly be a tie of those who have completed everything, and thus "fair".

If you think that I am being unfair to ask to discount so many other quests, look at what you are asking yourself.

Against the idea of changing the ranking system completely, I'm leaning towards saying no. How about I meet you half way. We have a top 25 for total quests, and we have a top 25 for sub-questers. Two lists independent of each other. There may be problems, but EVERY list has flaws, and we can't please everyone. So how about that?

I'd be willing to move towards this under a few conditions. Since you are unwilling to count event quests, I not only want maple island quests to be discounted, but in addition to that, I wish for there to be a tally of total available quests made. That is to say, a common number in each field/area quests come from that cannot be exceeded in a certain patch due to passable quests via leveling or other means. This means that number 1 would commonly be a tie of those who have completed everything, and thus "fair".

If you think that I am being unfair to ask to discount so many other quests, look at what you are asking yourself.

In which case compromise would be the eradication of the Quest Kings rankings. So be it then.

If you did not read my whole post, let me remind you that I did make a comment towards this regard by saying yes, when you remove the roughly 150-160 Event quests from the equation, you don't completely equalize the playing field as there are still 20-30ish quests per class in contention based on level and accessibility stipulations. My comment, if you recall, was not saying "let's ignore this and be ignorant," but rather that 20-30 is at most one fifth of the possible number of completed event quests, which is a much lower number of contention than the current system. Hence, negligible (especially considering those quests are still possible for several and widely available, compared to event quests from 4 years ago or whatnot).

Again as well the proposed method counts chain quests, which helps a lot of people who haven't finished this that or the other thing due to bugs and glitches. All in all, I'm not saying I hate the way that the list is and has been done, but I think that with the Quest Specialist overall quest counter, we can do a much better job leveling the playing field for all players.

Against the idea of changing the ranking system completely, I'm leaning towards saying no. How about I meet you half way. We have a top 25 for total quests, and we have a top 25 for sub-questers. Two lists independent of each other. There may be problems, but EVERY list has flaws, and we can't please everyone. So how about that?

I think anyone would agree a "sub-quester" list would be even more pointless than other proposed ideas. Why not just have both lists, one that counts quests as they're counted in the quest book, and the other that counts them as counted by the Quest Specialist counter? That way those who have been playing a long time are able to show off their Event quest totals, while anyone can compete on the other list?

Oh and by the way RDal, you switched Firehuntah and IcyTwinkie on the list. Er, make that Firehuntah, IcyTwinkie AND FelixTM need to be reshuffled.

I think anyone would agree a "sub-quester" list would be even more pointless than other proposed ideas. Why not just have both lists, one that counts quests as they're counted in the quest book, and the other that counts them as counted by the Quest Specialist counter? That way those who have been playing a long time are able to show off their Event quest totals, while anyone can compete on the other list?

That's what I said o.O the Quest specialist counter counts sub-quests doesn't it? Therefore I would take the number from the Quest Specialist counter. Unless you'd like to be a rebel and count all your sub-quests manually...

Oh and by the way RDal, you switched Firehuntah and IcyTwinkie on the list. Er, make that Firehuntah, IcyTwinkie AND FelixTM need to be reshuffled.

My bad, just forgot to change FireHuntah's number.

Decided to throw myself in finally. I've been debating on it for some time but am just too lazy to take that single screenshot

553 quests



I've done cupid's courier but I don't care enough to go all the way back and accept it just to take a screen shot and +1 my list. I've also done the secret medicine for transformation but the same deal applies. Add them if you wish. I don't mind either way.

PMing my Quest medal

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553 SarahBam I/L Arch Mage Khaini BombsAway

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EDIT2: Okay, thanks. I didn't realize it was previously talked about. :3

Anyways: 426 quests, aznbluejay, Priest, Scania, aznbluejay