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modular Wrote:for double washing.
since you lose 16, youll gain either 12 or 14 or something. always lose more than you gain.
No. You always lose the maximum amount you can gain.
http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=26
Base is 14~16
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JoeTang Wrote:No. You always lose the maximum amount you can gain.
http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=26
Base is 14~16
Looks like Pirates, for an affordable double washing, should do at least 120 INT. Assume worst case scenario, which is only a net gain of 10 MP per AP, or 50 extra MP to wash per level. that will then mean an extra 3 AP of HP per level when double washing. I am willing to sacrifice damage for more HP (adding points into INT from now on).
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Does barrage give invincibility while using?
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Arrg Wrote:Does barrage give invincibility while using?
Yep.
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ShadyPriest Wrote:Yep.
Same/shorter/longer than screw punch?
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Arrg Wrote:Same/shorter/longer than screw punch?
Shorter. The invincibility is pretty much there since you move forward slightly when you're using it, often time into the monster.
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TehMatt Wrote:Shorter. The invincibility is pretty much there since you move forward slightly when you're using it, often time into the monster.
Is there any delay in barrage, or is it spammable like straight?
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Arrg Wrote:Is there any delay in barrage, or is it spammable like straight?
Delayed. It adds to buccaneers combobility.
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Arrg Wrote:Is there any delay in barrage, or is it spammable like straight?
That would be so rigged if barrage was spammable. It also wouldn't make the class fun.
Delays are good.
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IllegallySane Wrote:Looks like Pirates, for an affordable double washing, should do at least 120 INT. Assume worst case scenario, which is only a net gain of 10 MP per AP, or 50 extra MP to wash per level. that will then mean an extra 3 AP of HP per level when double washing. I am willing to sacrifice damage for more HP (adding points into INT from now on). 
since you don't care about damage, can't you just add the points you were going to add to INT into HP? it would save you money atleast
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66alex66 Wrote:since you don't care about damage, can't you just add the points you were going to add to INT into HP? it would save you money atleast
I still care about my AP (why else am I DEXless). It's obsessing over getting one more point of weapon attack that I don't give a hoot about. Why pay hundreds of million of mesos for a few more weapon attack and going broke in the process? I'm making money now that I profit at Skeles (every 150 Honsters I burn I earn about 600-700k mesos), in which I don't plan to upgrade until I get a good billion+ mesos.
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I have a few questions:
- How are Brawlers HP compared to warriors? A little less than then?, note we get Max HP Increase at 2nd job while warriors get it at 1st job (love it when I said "we").
- When should I start using a Knuckle? Note I've thought of using it once I get a little bit of Mastery which should be at lv35 or should I just start using one once I get lv1 CSB?
- I'm currently using a godly lv10 tuna (8x atk) with sommersault kick, however when I use a lv30 knuckle and SMK I barely notice any damage difference. Am I just getting unstable damage with the tuna or is it just that once I advanced to Brawler I got a boost when using knuckles?
- What is this thing I keep reading everywhere "Invincibility Frames" on both CSP and Barrage?
- Does lv1 CSP completely replaces Fist/Sommersault Kick ?
- Is there any delay when using Uppercut? I haven't seen many ppl using it even though I think is really deadly with it's damage at lower levels.
- What made you do your brawler?
I made this char and made it to lv33 in 2 days with barely any effort (Sand Rats @ Ariant are really godly exp) and I don't know why but I started watching newb videos on youtube about brawlers and I already love my character. I've been a bowman since day 1 of beta and restarted once GMS was out so I ve never had any other character above lv30 in GMS (Only a lv3x bandit which I got bored of). I again got a taste of what MapleStory is about, I just can't wait till I'm lv35 and start using 2nd job skills freely. I know these are a lot of questions but I'm at newb at this job so please bare with me.
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Narguz Wrote:I have a few questions:
- How are Brawlers HP compared to warriors? A little less than then?, note we get Max HP Increase at 2nd job while warriors get it at 1st job (love it when I said "we").
It's a rather big gap, I have 6k HP at 120, when a warrior friend had that much at 100.
- When should I start using a Knuckle? Note I've thought of using it once I get a little bit of Mastery which should be at lv35 or should I just start using one once I get lv1 CSB?
I started using a knuckle at 35 but you can use it earlier if you wanna mess with CSP
- I'm currently using a godly lv10 tuna (8x atk) with sommersault kick, however when I use a lv30 knuckle and SMK I barely notice any damage difference. Am I just getting unstable damage with the tuna or is it just that once I advanced to Brawler I got a boost when using knuckles?
Probably since you're 33 you have some mastery?
- What is this thing I keep reading everywhere "Invincibility Frames" on both CSP and Barrage?
When you use CSP, there's like 1 second after it that you can't get hit, so people alternate CSP with other skill to be invincible, you can try it with CSP->Kick->CSP....
Barrage also has invincibility frames, you can't get hit while doing barrage.
- Does lv1 CSP completely replaces Fist/Sommersault Kick ?
Nope, and never will, Brawler is a combo class, you'll still use sommersault kick and fist mixed with CSP and other skills at 3rd and 4th job (exept that I replaced kick for dragon strike in 4th job)
- Is there any delay when using Uppercut? I haven't seen many ppl using it even though I think is really deadly with it's damage at lower levels.
Yup, you can't do 2 uppercuts in a row, normal combo for 1v1 at low levels is DU-FF-FF-Repeat
- What made you do your brawler?
I was tired of my NL, I was bored of training it and didn't relaly play much, so with a new class coming I decided I'd go for melee this time, and it has been great!
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I come to SouthPerry for help again.
Level 89 kMS Striker with 21 Shark Wave, Max Crit Punch, 15 Sparks, 1 Transformation, 1 Drain
where2train?
I've been at Blue Kents since level 78, and it's not that they are bad exp at the moment (getting around 31~32%/hr now) but it's a big pot burn and I want to get out. :O
Gobys have been suggested to me but I don't really like them since the houses are lightning resistant.
Also tried Vikings and they are about the same as Kents but harder to move around with all the ladders.
Any ideas?
Deeper in Leafre or somewhere else?
Keep in mind this is kMS
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You're just going to have to suck up the pot burn until you get Barrage. You can try going to Wyverns for a change of scenery.
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Opeth Wrote:You're just going to have to suck up the pot burn until you get Barrage. You can try going to Wyverns for a change of scenery.
Which Wyverns and what might be the best map for such beasts. :O
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Blue or Red's Hidden Streets are decent maps.
But if you're really pulling in 30% an hour at Kents I'd just stay there.
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Yea I am,
just tried and I miss a few times.
Best stay at Kents,
but until 100?
srsly?
;-;
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Vernacular Wrote:Yea I am,
just tried and I miss a few times.
Best stay at Kents,
but until 100?
srsly?
;-;
You're getting 30% an hour. At 89, that's fantastic exp. There are some people that would kill for that...I barely get 3-4% an hour (without the event curve, 5-6% with) solo, 8% (10) with a bishop.
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Vernacular Wrote:Yea I am,
just tried and I miss a few times.
Best stay at Kents,
but until 100?
srsly?
;-;
I got 20%/h at MOST at 89, and it was at a spot FAR better than kents. The fact that you're getting better exp at a worse spot says something.
How are you training at kents anyway? Lure and mob? I would just jump around sharking everything.
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