Trade wins at CPQ = 7.5k EXP/2 minutes?

What are you saying, trade wins sucks? Oh please, I've been doing trade wins everyonce in a while with my friends only (they all have a noob so we can go CPQ) and it has been a super fun and funny experience. I remember when me and my friend got 300 CP the first CPQ and now we are doing 1100 CP without dying once. Trade wins is fun if you do it with your friends, you can ask them to summon stuff for you so you get more EXP and both sides wins. And as for the DC exp, is only 6,7k and you have to wait 2 minutes after you're inside. Is not worth it, you can just go get A RANK in 10 minutes get 30k exp plus like 10k once you're inside killing monsters; plus if you're losing you can make about 20k exp just by killing mobs and with the exp compensated when losing (10k exp).

Trade wins is fun.

I trade wins all the time.. got me from 40 ~ 50 in 3days(not rushing levels or anything)

What makes you think winning wouldn't be faster?

Done both methods a bunch of times, here's the advantages and drawbacks with both.

Trade-Wins:

<The good>
-Winning 50% of the time
-Having a party to constantly CPQ against

<The bad>
-Losing 50% of the time




Just CPQing normally:

<The good>
-If you're lucky, a party will stay (and lose) and thus, you can achieve maximum EXP.
-Constant wins (if you're lucky and they CHOOSE TO STAY!)

<The bad>
-Too much time finding 'literate' and intelligent people to CPQ with.
-People will quit in less than 2 minutes as soon as they know they're up against DEXless Sins
-They will quit when they're about to lose.
-They defame you if they lose.
-Takes a lot of luck to ensure that the opposing party stays.

I think I made my point. If you think CPQing normally is better EXP, well, it 'can' be, but it won't always be. This depends on the opposing party, mostly. Some will judge you by your class, and your gear, asap once you get in the waiting-room.

Oh, I'm sorry guys, by CPQing normally I mean going with a good party of friends that know what they're doing. Getting defamed and quitting only happens with randoms. I doubt I could win 9/10 games with randoms unless I got lucky. With friends 95% isn't out of the question.

If you have a decent party that works together you can easily overpower even the strongest parties of randoms. It's not unusual to go up against a party of dexless sins who gain a quick lead early on but start failing once protectors start going up and they can't coordinate their efforts to break them (or they all have really bad accuracy).

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well playing with random people can be fun and some high level guyz are pretty decent and respecteble (got a nice level 41 F/P mage with his fire arrow attack maxed to stick with me, he helped me out quite a bit)

but there does pricks in TW who win wuit or actually steal wins form you last minute... TW can work out well even if the groups are mixed with decent and Immiture players, sence all the Immiture players ussually leave first round or so your down with all the decent players, these people ussually get on my friends list...

point is TW isint as bad as you guyz really think... hey we even found a way to make 1st wins more fun, with fight for it, basecly the first round is REAL and it determines the TW cycle... im pretty shure i int the only one who does this but it works well and makes people stay longer.
and for REAL matches for even blanced matches make a party witch holds both teams that way you can chose the guyz and balance both teams out. again im pretty shure i int the only one in the world doing this

Well I had real fun when pirates were released, made a decently equipped brawler and with a little bit of control and a good partner I was dominating.

Fu(k tw.

i just realized something, if you play normally getting more or around 90% wins is pretty damn difficult unless you make shure you win (witch is kinda defeating the point) and for some one of my class and level i have a better chance off getting 30% to 60% wins if im lucky


and what i mean about making shure you win is fighting people who have fucked up stats and are 8 to 10 levels below you... or just suck in general

this kind of thing is ruining CPQ

seriously i seen in maplesea :
everything thats released ppl find ways and ways to exploit it

Real CPQ matches for me have a tendancy to turn into a non stop spam of protectors in the last 3 minutes -_-

Besides, with TW your able to request things like a mob of rombots in map 3/4, which is jus epic exp

I have the most fun not doing trade win, I admit. I even kept a screenshot of my party getting badly pwned (full set of protectors summoned by enemies) then mass DC-ed, lol. But it's a more steady kind of enjoyment too. Sometimes, when I'm MC leader, we agree to summon some preferred mobs, but that's about all the agreement made. That's a nice EXP boost, but still with a competitive edge. Pretty fun.